in regards to the article...anyone who thinks Toby Harris is on the same level as LeBron James, Kevin Durant, Kevin Love, Chris Bosh or Paul Millsap based on stats has never watched basketball. i have a masters in statistics and even i can tell you that author was bogus. like the article said, he selectively weeded out players in order to fit his criteria and consequently elevate Harris' status. Toby should give that professor some of that max money he'll be getting soon. lol. smh

callmened wrote:THANKS!

in regards to the article...anyone who thinks Toby Harris is on the same level as LeBron James, Kevin Durant, Kevin Love, Chris Bosh or Paul Millsap based on stats has never watched basketball. i have a masters in statistics and even i can tell you that author was bogus. like the article said, he selectively weeded out players in order to fit his criteria and consequently elevate Harris' status. Toby should give that professor some of that max money he'll be getting soon. lol. smh

that was like a dirty infomercial.

LivingLegend wrote:I don't get the argument that Melo and Harris don't fit because they are too similar to each other.

There is no reason why they can't play the 3 and 4 together. Both are versatile players with skill and for every perceived match-up issue one can come up with on the defensive end of the court the Knicks could have a similar advantage on the offensive end of the court.

At 22 I'd certainly target Harris if we could wrestle him away from the Magic. I think Harris fits in with the flow of the triangle and is someone that could be a great 3rd option.

I concur....defense would be horrible though

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BRIGGS wrote:This is where analytics need to take a step back. Tobias is a good player and rated somewhat fairly. Hes nothing special and he gets hurt a lot. Hes played on a team that has avg 20 something wins and his stats have a hollowness about them.

He's only 22 years old. I don't think it's fair to judge his impact on a team to that extent. By age 25 or 26 when he's closer to his prime things could be a lot different. The talent is there.

You understand that the Knicks have 0/100 chance to get Tobias Harris right? Does anyone in the forum think other teams are spawning grounds to send the NY Knicks players for free?

there are reports Harris would like to come home. If Harris is offered a Parsons type deal do you think the Magic match?

The Magic have/will match any offer--no question about it.

Why do you talk in facts when you have no facts??

Well I guess if the Knicks were willing to give me their lottery pick Id do it. Otherwise why the heck would I give my premium asset away for a tad more salary?

A tad more salary?? T.Harris is making like 5 million so you think going from 5 mil to 12/15 mil is a tad more?? When i evaluate the Magic roster i see a team full of good young talent and in my opinion the best way for them to get that team to start winning would be to add veteran talent to the roster because they're so young at every position that a couple of vets is exactly what they need to help with the young kids. So how do you know that that's not what they want to do since it has been mentioned?? It would be tough to do that if they pay Tobias 12-15 million along with what C.Frye, V.Oladipo, N.Vucevic will command and then E.Payton and A.Gordon will need to be paid in a couple of years. I'm just saying that nobody knows what the Magic is thinking and what they'll do about T.Harris and they have a lot of young guys that will be wanting to get paid in the near future.

ny4--the salary cap is going to 109mm. Paying Tobias 14-15mm or whatever it is is chicken feed. Hes going to get it. I mean think--if you owned the Magic would you simply let Harris walk for nothing? Or at a MINIMUM would you sign him to a contract at a 71% discount and unload it for a premium 3 months later?

That depends on how i would be building my team.

Well if it was me Id sign harris to the 4 years 64mm. They are 30mm under the cap they have no chance to even get to cap level without signing Harris. If they sign him--they can turn around in 3 months and trade him for a nice pull. Orlando controls the whole thing.