crzymdups wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

fishmike wrote:

crzymdups wrote:If we're still in fantasy land, my pick is still Marc Gasol. Not sure why he's less realistic than Jimmy Butler. Butler is RFA and there is ZERO CHANCE Chicago doesn't match.

Marc Gasol is unrestricted, his brother loved Phil Jackson, his friend Jose Calderon is on the team, Memphis is a small market and that team may have maxed out its potential.

At first I was down on the idea but Gasol is perfect. We need a good vet upfront. I thought Gasol only with Towns and not OK4 as he and OK4 would bump in the post but Gasol might be the perfect mentor for Jah. For starters Gasol's offense is moving further from the basket each year. Jah is a guy with great size and power and learning defense from Gasol is the perfect guy. Gasol won DPOY and is one of the least athletic guys in the league. People like to cling to OK4's Al Jefferson comparison.. well Gasol's was Todd McCullogh.

That FA money is going to go fast and we have a lot of young guys, we will be getting more and will need some quality veteran play and mentoring. Marc seems perfect for that role, but I havent had beers with the guy so who knows

were not getting gasol memphis will max him. if they need to explorea trade later thats what will happen. Even Detroit with Monroe--now that I have thought about it why exactly will Detroit not pay Monroe 5 years 80M? They can simply trade him in 3 months.

I think Monroe wants out though. And I don't think Detroit loves him. Certainly not at $80M.

crxy--Detroit says will give you 80mm then we can trade you to any team you want. Its a no brainer for Monroe.

BRIGGS wrote:

fishmike wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

fishmike wrote:

crzymdups wrote:If we're still in fantasy land, my pick is still Marc Gasol. Not sure why he's less realistic than Jimmy Butler. Butler is RFA and there is ZERO CHANCE Chicago doesn't match.

Marc Gasol is unrestricted, his brother loved Phil Jackson, his friend Jose Calderon is on the team, Memphis is a small market and that team may have maxed out its potential.

At first I was down on the idea but Gasol is perfect. We need a good vet upfront. I thought Gasol only with Towns and not OK4 as he and OK4 would bump in the post but Gasol might be the perfect mentor for Jah. For starters Gasol's offense is moving further from the basket each year. Jah is a guy with great size and power and learning defense from Gasol is the perfect guy. Gasol won DPOY and is one of the least athletic guys in the league. People like to cling to OK4's Al Jefferson comparison.. well Gasol's was Todd McCullogh.

That FA money is going to go fast and we have a lot of young guys, we will be getting more and will need some quality veteran play and mentoring. Marc seems perfect for that role, but I havent had beers with the guy so who knows

were not getting gasol memphis will max him. if they need to explorea trade later thats what will happen. Even Detroit with Monroe--now that I have thought about it why exactly will Detroit not pay Monroe 5 years 80M? They can simply trade him in 3 months.

what changed between now and the last time they could have made that offer? The cap? Is that your logic?

Briggs.. when it comes to Kanter you have the focus of a labrador staring at the slobbery tenis ball he's just dropped at your feet. Like OKC didnt consider they would have to resign the RFA they just traded for. Please... let it go. He's an RFA. The ONLY song and dance thats going to happen is if/when Kanter rejects an offer and goes to look for an offersheet. You really think OKC just says OK thats too much and walks away? Zero logic my friend. They will match his max and entertain the best offer they can get for one of their 4 big name players. Most likely Westbrook is gone. KD's foot problems keep him around and Ibaka's modest salary keep him around.

Kanter is going no where--when I truly look at these numbers they are staggering. Match and trade down the line--NO one is NOT matching.

So, if you could lock up a top 20 player for 5 years on a max deal, you would do it?

BRIGGS wrote:

fishmike wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

fishmike wrote:

crzymdups wrote:If we're still in fantasy land, my pick is still Marc Gasol. Not sure why he's less realistic than Jimmy Butler. Butler is RFA and there is ZERO CHANCE Chicago doesn't match.

Marc Gasol is unrestricted, his brother loved Phil Jackson, his friend Jose Calderon is on the team, Memphis is a small market and that team may have maxed out its potential.

At first I was down on the idea but Gasol is perfect. We need a good vet upfront. I thought Gasol only with Towns and not OK4 as he and OK4 would bump in the post but Gasol might be the perfect mentor for Jah. For starters Gasol's offense is moving further from the basket each year. Jah is a guy with great size and power and learning defense from Gasol is the perfect guy. Gasol won DPOY and is one of the least athletic guys in the league. People like to cling to OK4's Al Jefferson comparison.. well Gasol's was Todd McCullogh.

That FA money is going to go fast and we have a lot of young guys, we will be getting more and will need some quality veteran play and mentoring. Marc seems perfect for that role, but I havent had beers with the guy so who knows

were not getting gasol memphis will max him. if they need to explorea trade later thats what will happen. Even Detroit with Monroe--now that I have thought about it why exactly will Detroit not pay Monroe 5 years 80M? They can simply trade him in 3 months.

what changed between now and the last time they could have made that offer? The cap? Is that your logic?

Briggs.. when it comes to Kanter you have the focus of a labrador staring at the slobbery tenis ball he's just dropped at your feet. Like OKC didnt consider they would have to resign the RFA they just traded for. Please... let it go. He's an RFA. The ONLY song and dance thats going to happen is if/when Kanter rejects an offer and goes to look for an offersheet. You really think OKC just says OK thats too much and walks away? Zero logic my friend. They will match his max and entertain the best offer they can get for one of their 4 big name players. Most likely Westbrook is gone. KD's foot problems keep him around and Ibaka's modest salary keep him around.

Kanter is going no where--when I truly look at these numbers they are staggering. Match and trade down the line--NO one is NOT matching.

Agree. RFA is a formality this off-season. It's hard to pry a guy in RFA normally (unless you're the Knicks and just let an asset walk away for free) but this summer it'll be almost impossible.

BRIGGS wrote:

fishmike wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

fishmike wrote:

crzymdups wrote:If we're still in fantasy land, my pick is still Marc Gasol. Not sure why he's less realistic than Jimmy Butler. Butler is RFA and there is ZERO CHANCE Chicago doesn't match.

Marc Gasol is unrestricted, his brother loved Phil Jackson, his friend Jose Calderon is on the team, Memphis is a small market and that team may have maxed out its potential.

At first I was down on the idea but Gasol is perfect. We need a good vet upfront. I thought Gasol only with Towns and not OK4 as he and OK4 would bump in the post but Gasol might be the perfect mentor for Jah. For starters Gasol's offense is moving further from the basket each year. Jah is a guy with great size and power and learning defense from Gasol is the perfect guy. Gasol won DPOY and is one of the least athletic guys in the league. People like to cling to OK4's Al Jefferson comparison.. well Gasol's was Todd McCullogh.

That FA money is going to go fast and we have a lot of young guys, we will be getting more and will need some quality veteran play and mentoring. Marc seems perfect for that role, but I havent had beers with the guy so who knows

were not getting gasol memphis will max him. if they need to explorea trade later thats what will happen. Even Detroit with Monroe--now that I have thought about it why exactly will Detroit not pay Monroe 5 years 80M? They can simply trade him in 3 months.

what changed between now and the last time they could have made that offer? The cap? Is that your logic?

Briggs.. when it comes to Kanter you have the focus of a labrador staring at the slobbery tenis ball he's just dropped at your feet. Like OKC didnt consider they would have to resign the RFA they just traded for. Please... let it go. He's an RFA. The ONLY song and dance thats going to happen is if/when Kanter rejects an offer and goes to look for an offersheet. You really think OKC just says OK thats too much and walks away? Zero logic my friend. They will match his max and entertain the best offer they can get for one of their 4 big name players. Most likely Westbrook is gone. KD's foot problems keep him around and Ibaka's modest salary keep him around.

Kanter is going no where--when I truly look at these numbers they are staggering. Match and trade down the line--NO one is NOT matching.

BRIGGS wrote:

holfresh wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

fishmike wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

fishmike wrote:

crzymdups wrote:If we're still in fantasy land, my pick is still Marc Gasol. Not sure why he's less realistic than Jimmy Butler. Butler is RFA and there is ZERO CHANCE Chicago doesn't match.

Marc Gasol is unrestricted, his brother loved Phil Jackson, his friend Jose Calderon is on the team, Memphis is a small market and that team may have maxed out its potential.

At first I was down on the idea but Gasol is perfect. We need a good vet upfront. I thought Gasol only with Towns and not OK4 as he and OK4 would bump in the post but Gasol might be the perfect mentor for Jah. For starters Gasol's offense is moving further from the basket each year. Jah is a guy with great size and power and learning defense from Gasol is the perfect guy. Gasol won DPOY and is one of the least athletic guys in the league. People like to cling to OK4's Al Jefferson comparison.. well Gasol's was Todd McCullogh.

That FA money is going to go fast and we have a lot of young guys, we will be getting more and will need some quality veteran play and mentoring. Marc seems perfect for that role, but I havent had beers with the guy so who knows

were not getting gasol memphis will max him. if they need to explorea trade later thats what will happen. Even Detroit with Monroe--now that I have thought about it why exactly will Detroit not pay Monroe 5 years 80M? They can simply trade him in 3 months.

what changed between now and the last time they could have made that offer? The cap? Is that your logic?

Briggs.. when it comes to Kanter you have the focus of a labrador staring at the slobbery tenis ball he's just dropped at your feet. Like OKC didnt consider they would have to resign the RFA they just traded for. Please... let it go. He's an RFA. The ONLY song and dance thats going to happen is if/when Kanter rejects an offer and goes to look for an offersheet. You really think OKC just says OK thats too much and walks away? Zero logic my friend. They will match his max and entertain the best offer they can get for one of their 4 big name players. Most likely Westbrook is gone. KD's foot problems keep him around and Ibaka's modest salary keep him around.

Kanter is going no where--when I truly look at these numbers they are staggering. Match and trade down the line--NO one is NOT matching.

Numbers are staggering over 26 games..Amazing..What happened the other 3.5 years of his career??

Well Iw as talking about his contract but his 26 game sample with OKC was really good. The bottom line is this--free agency will truly be much different than most anyone thinks. We are dealing w contracts that will be signing at a 71% discount. It will be a no brainer for

A the team to sign the player

B for the player to take the most money and just asked to be traded into the season. You get the extra year and cash from your own team --makes no sense to take a penny less especially when salaries are going up.

Guys upping their games in contract year should hold a massive red flag for you..They play well now because they are practicing, staying sharp for games..He has done it for 26 games..If when he signs that deal and don't continue the work ethic then what??..No way I give this guy the max...

newyorker4ever wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

mreinman wrote:

callmened wrote:

s3231 wrote:Who is your top REALISTIC target?

insert TOBIAS HARRIS instead of butler

what??

I think Tobias Harris is the #1 most attainable free agent target. I don't necessarily see him as a fit here but I do think he's the most likely guy to leave. I think it's virtually guaranteed that he leaves Orlando.

You do realize that Harris is a RFA right? So even though he might not want to play there Orlando still can match any offer he gets.

yeah I do... I think the Magic stashed him on the bench to supress his value. I think if a team outbids his production they let him walk

SupremeCommander wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

mreinman wrote:

callmened wrote:

s3231 wrote:Who is your top REALISTIC target?

insert TOBIAS HARRIS instead of butler

what??

I think Tobias Harris is the #1 most attainable free agent target. I don't necessarily see him as a fit here but I do think he's the most likely guy to leave. I think it's virtually guaranteed that he leaves Orlando.

You do realize that Harris is a RFA right? So even though he might not want to play there Orlando still can match any offer he gets.

yeah I do... I think the Magic stashed him on the bench to supress his value. I think if a team outbids his production they let him walk

I could see Orlando being scared off re-signing Tobias Harris if the offer was too high. He's the one RFA I can see this for.

I kinda like the idea of him. I certainly like it better than Monroe.

But he's sort of a 3/4 tweener like Melo - does it make sense to have two tweeners in Melo and Harris next to each other in the frontcourt?

I think given the choice, Phil would go for Monroe over Harris. But I see Harris being on the radar.

but i know for a fact that Toby wants to come home

BRIGGS wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

callmened wrote:

s3231 wrote:Who is your top REALISTIC target?

insert TOBIAS HARRIS instead of butler

So you want to spend 16mm $ on a player who plays the same position as Melo and puts up hollow stats on a bad team yet you think Kanter or Lopez who are twice as good as Harris scks? Not to mention Harris has barely played more than 2/3 of a season one time?

Lopez is twice as good as Harris? Lol that's a joke. Lopez is just ok and that's all he is and Harris is already better than him and he's still getting better.

How is Harris better than Lopez? In what way? Not on offense not on defense not effect on game? His assit to TO ratio is equal--you know how bad that is for a wing? We already have one high usage player who doesnt like to pass--what has that gotten us? And while Brook has had some injury problems--Harris has been a walking injury. Hes had hollow stats on a bad team. I think Kanter should be the number 1 target if hes available for the max(although Im starting to doubt it--I think with year 5 OKC can offer a longer contract that may have less per year but the attractiveness will be too close to give up). So that leaves Lopez and Monroe--just like the other post said free agency wont be ez. And lastly on Orlando--why wouldnt the Magic match any offer?