nixluva wrote:Great work DrAlphaeus!

Thanks guys! I'd love to see some sources for this "Melo and Chandler Beef" storyline as well...

mreinman wrote:lets not forget that Tyson was a complete no show in the playoffs for the knicks. that did not help his rep here.

DrAlphaeus wrote:

nixluva wrote:Great work DrAlphaeus!

Thanks guys! I'd love to see some sources for this "Melo and Chandler Beef" storyline as well...

Bonn1997 wrote:

DrAlphaeus wrote:

nixluva wrote:Great work DrAlphaeus!

Thanks guys! I'd love to see some sources for this "Melo and Chandler Beef" storyline as well...

So would I.
I know Melo talked about possibly joining Dallas, and that was after Tyson was traded there. I've never seen sources that they had a problem.

And Melo did not realize that MDA had issues with him. Its not like the guy picks up on queue's.

Mitch Lawrence bucking shots at Tyson in the 2013 series re: Hibbert going ham on him in the playoffs.

Tyson Chandler should know better to call out Carmelo Anthony as struggling Knicks prepare for Game 4 vs. Pacers

Chandler might have come in from Dallas wearing a championship ring and bringing instant credibility to a franchise that has done nothing of consequence since way back in 2000. But he hasn’t exactly built up any equity with his disappointing playoff efforts, both last spring and in the first nine postseason games of this run, to now start up with the team’s ranking star.

NEW YORK DAILY NEWS Monday, May 13, 2013, 11:33 PM

CrushAlot wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:I hope Crush sees this. He really dragged Tyson's name through the mud with the perception that Woodson and TYSON did not get along. I wonder how Woodson feels about Shumpert? Another one who's name was dragged through the mud and like Tyson has the respects of his current teammates.

The way I have always seen it is Tyson was the only one left who knew what it took to contend for a championship and he didn't agree with how Melo went about his business as the teams supposed star player. Melo proved Thson right last year and this year as well.

The Tyson trade was rushed because in order to resign Melo. They should've got a lot more back the. They did. Imagine what TYSON wouldve fetched at the deadline from Cleveland? We know at least 2
1st rd picks.

Question is who's to blame Dolan or Phil? I'm going to blame Dolan as Phil was very lukewarm on keeping Melo

I am surprised Woodson came out and endorsed Tyson. Seems like Tyson was dragging Woodson's name through the mud also. And there were photos and reports of Tyson chatting daily with Steve Mills about the team and Woodson. Also, Phil came in planning on moving the guy and made statements that implied Tyson was a part of the problem. I still feel the same way. Woodson handled the questions in a classy manner. Maybe he wasn't as bothered by Tyson's betrayal as I was.

He is just using it to jab hard at phil. He knows that Tyson hated that he enabled Carmelo and JR.

DrAlphaeus wrote:

mreinman wrote:

Chandler, who has addressed the lack of ball movement on several occasions this season, did not mention Anthony by name either on Saturday or Sunday. But Chandler, who was badly outplayed by Pacers center Roy Hibbert in Game 3, seemed to be referring to his All-Star teammate when he said on Sunday that there were moments when “you want to take over the game or you want to make a big shot where you (should) stick to the game plan. A good team wins basketball games. Unless you’re a great, great, great, great individual…and we only have a few of those come through.”

Who do you think that he was talking about?

C'mon! Of course Tyson hated playing with Melo. He is a team player and Melo is frustrating to play with if you are a team player.

Yo, good question... what were the usage ratings or whatever advanced stat would best show which Knicks were abusing possession in that game? Not being facetious!

I was just trying to find that quote that explains the alleged beef. But:
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/knicks-insider-tyson-melo-clear-air-article-1.1344396

Maybe I like NBA because it's sorta WWF with the story lines, haha... Chandler leave Dallas and turns heel in the Eastern Conference! Melo is the heel to Lin the baby face... oh god.

Maybe Chandler thought that he should have taken more than 4 shots?

Starters                MP   FG  FGA   FG%   3P  3PA   3P%   FT  FTA   FT%  ORB  DRB  TRB  AST  STL  BLK  TOV   PF  PTS  +/-
Carmelo Anthony      37:16    6   16  .375    1    1 1.000    8   11  .727    1    4    5    1    0    0    4    5   21  -16
Iman Shumpert        36:36    3   10  .300    0    1  .000    2    2 1.000    3    7   10    2    1    0    1    1    8   -5
Raymond Felton       33:54    1    8  .125    0    0          4    5  .800    1    2    3    2    2    0    3    2    6   -9
Tyson Chandler       29:54    3    4  .750    0    0          3    5  .600    1    4    5    0    0    3    1    5    9  -14
Pablo Prigioni       23:41    0    3  .000    0    2  .000    0    0          0    0    0    4    1    0    1    1    0   -6
Reserves                MP   FG  FGA   FG%   3P  3PA   3P%   FT  FTA   FT%  ORB  DRB  TRB  AST  STL  BLK  TOV   PF  PTS  +/-
J.R. Smith           24:49    4   12  .333    0    3  .000    1    2  .500    0    1    1    0    0    0    0    2    9   -5
Jason Kidd           20:11    0    1  .000    0    1  .000    0    0          0    6    6    1    2    0    2    1    0  -16
Kenyon Martin        20:04    4    7  .571    0    0          0    0          2    5    7    1    1    0    1    4    8   +3
Amare Stoudemire      8:56    3    8  .375    1    1 1.000    0    0          3    0    3    0    0    0    1    2    7    0
Steve Novak           1:53    0    1  .000    0    1  .000    0    0          0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0   +5
Quentin Richardson    1:48    0    0          0    0          0    0          0    1    1    0    0    0    0    0    0   +5
Chris Copeland        0:58    1    1 1.000    1    1 1.000    0    0          0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    3   +3
Team Totals            240   25   71  .352    3   11  .273   18   25  .720   11   30   41   11    7    3   14   23   71    

crzymdups wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:I had no problem trading Chandler. However i do have a problem at what Phil got back in the trade. Not only didnt he get a first round pick back but he also took on Calderon's contract. We all know Tyson loves dallas and plays his best there. So we gave Dallas a rejuvinated Tysoin plus we took a bad contract off their hands

+1

People thought Roy Hibbert was the best center in the NBA after what he did to Tyson Chandler.

Close thread.

Roy Hibbert was the best center in the NBA that season. By far. He had some weird depression issues or something and then this season was lost because of all their injuries (though they're still making the playoffs!) - but the guy is still a beast.

mreinman wrote:

Chandler, who has addressed the lack of ball movement on several occasions this season, did not mention Anthony by name either on Saturday or Sunday. But Chandler, who was badly outplayed by Pacers center Roy Hibbert in Game 3, seemed to be referring to his All-Star teammate when he said on Sunday that there were moments when “you want to take over the game or you want to make a big shot where you (should) stick to the game plan. A good team wins basketball games. Unless you’re a great, great, great, great individual…and we only have a few of those come through.”

Who do you think that he was talking about?

C'mon! Of course Tyson hated playing with Melo. He is a team player and Melo is frustrating to play with if you are a team player.

Maybe if the former 2nd overall pick developed his game then he could have have been skilled or capable of helping offensively creating for others and creating this ball movement.

Tyson Chandler with his 0.8 ast per game wants to talk about ball movement.

nyk4ever wrote:tyson played like a ***** last year, he quit on the team and voiced his issues defensively in the media instead of with woodson privately. i have no problem with tyson being traded, he's always been a front-runner and still is.

That doesn't mean you dump him for anything or shoot yourself in the foot during the process...