either way, they are not trading 3/10/35 for our pick, and at best, we have a 25% chance of getting the number 1 pick.

mreinman wrote:what if Phil gets the 4th pick? isn't that a strong possibility?

either way, they are not trading 3/10/35 for our pick, and at best, we have a 25% chance of getting the number 1 pick.

I think Dolan is trying to buy the University of Kentucky

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BRIGGS wrote:

Vmart wrote:

fishmike wrote:

TPercy wrote:

fishmike wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Yea I was thinking Wade. Smart player but doesn't have Wade's athleticism. Mudiay does. We just don't know how he will develop between the ears. NBA teams will draft him top 3 based on his skills and potential to be the full package

He does... he really does. He can fly with the best of the them. Remember he literally turned 19 about 3 weeks ago and has toyed with guys in the NCAA. Thats what you want to see.. guys who simply dominate their competition. He's putting up 20/5/5 and carrying his college team at an 18 year old.

He doesn't have Wades athleticism at all, man was taking floaters at 6-5 going to the rim at times, not to mention he isn't nearly as fast as he is

keep watching. The quickness is there. Also remember Wade was older... I think he was 19-20 when he started school and 22 as an NBA rookie. Russell turned 19 less than a month ago. Big difference between 19-21 physically as well.

I'm looking but I'm not seeing it. Russell is a good shooter, he has a knack for a nice no look pass here and there. But you can literally watch highlights of him and see that he never busts it to the basket on a fast break, majority of his plays are initiated at the top of the arc. He is a half court player that's the impression I'm getting. I like his shooting ability he has that and good court awareness. The athleticism is just not there. That most likely will hurt the defensive side of the ball.

If we had pick #3 and the 2 pivots were gone Id have to keep my options open. If I HAD to make a pick Im seriously leaning towards Hezonja. There simply are not many 6-8 athletic SGs in the world. He shoots like Klay Thompson but hes more explosive of an athlete.

I agree with you Hezonja is an option to consider. I was thinking about your other thread about lacking athleticism the first thing that I thought was Russell isn't that. You want your PG to be athletic able to go full speed all the way to the basket. I would love to let Phil Jackson to mold Mudiay as a do everything type of sg In the mold of Kobe and Jordan.

is tony parker athletic?

Tony Parker is fast. He has one of the better first steps in the game.

so you would consider him a supreme athlete?

EwingsGlass wrote:I think Dunn is going to be special. 10 might be too low. That said, I tend to underestimate the value of the big men. Regardless, Dunn has got something that will translate well into the NBA _ that extra gear and sixth sense. If we decided to trade down, I'd want to make sure he was available at the time. If we got the 2nd pick and towns was gone, I would consider Embiid and the 12 pick from Philly for the 2. That is, if Embiid got a clean bill of health and Dunn was still available.

I think I've projected dunn higher than anyone I have seen or read as high as 8 also I intend to move okafor back to #1 following the ncaas barring anything that could swzy me. I know ok4 has been playing hurt and I think his offensive game is just so good that I slightly rise him back over towns also I see portis moving back to #5 or4

TPercy wrote:Tony Parker is hands down very athletic, should have seen him against the Bulls, at the age of 32, he was running on a neverending motor.

had he played the same way in the jordan era and earlier, he would have been met with clotheslines and dirty fouls, unlikely to last 3years of physical abilities to allow him to have the ability to penetrate/finish

i think earlier this year, he has shown much decline in terms of that first step and overall quickness/speed, while the past 5-10 games he has gotten some of it back with the confidence and bounce to his step
if there is any chance of Spur's advancing, especially, Parker, Green, Leonard must step up, along with Duncan *though older* and some of their BIGS whether it may be Splitter, Aron Baynes, Diaw, along with their depth with Mills/Belelnili/Joseph

Russell at 5? You know that won't happen, right?

I moved he hezonga to 3 over mudiay and towns as his combination of tier1 athletically ability size and skills slightly trump the phs

All of stein poetl lyles and jones play move them up Kaminsky is a lock top 10 and bobby Portis drops to late lottery. All the potential players like turner looney etched get severely discounted

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yellowboy90 wrote:I saw some speculate that the 1st overall pick value is a switch of a pick 2-5 and a mid 1st rd pick.

It's coming down to the end here.Ill tell you if we get 1 and we can verify okafor is discounted to 3 I would work wit that team to get them pick 1 if they gave me the ability to draft an additional big with a mi range and 2 2 s

Example. Knicks 1 to phlly3 12 32 35. If take ok for one of the other several bigs that would provide synergy and then wait and see who drops early 2

once again, this is trade rape and philly is not dumber than us, they are smarter than us.

BRIGGS wrote:

mreinman wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:I saw some speculate that the 1st overall pick value is a switch of a pick 2-5 and a mid 1st rd pick.

It's coming down to the end here.Ill tell you if we get 1 and we can verify okafor is discounted to 3 I would work wit that team to get them pick 1 if they gave me the ability to draft an additional big with a mi range and 2 2 s

Example. Knicks 1 to phlly3 12 32 35. If take ok for one of the other several bigs that would provide synergy and then wait and see who drops early 2

once again, this is trade rape and philly is not dumber than us, they are smarter than us.

No its not the value of 1 is extremely high--as high as a franchise player.. If Philly really wanted a player---2 2's and a 12 to flip 3 to 1 is very fair. Your only comp in the last 25 years in terms of pick to pick trade is the Chris Webber trade 3#1 and the 3rd pick for Webber. HIGH value.

how can you say this? You can't place value on the slot in a vacuum.

Is there a consensus number 1? No, there isn't. Even you keep flipping constantly with the top 3 order.

Towns/OK4/Russell can all go anywhere from 1-3.