gunsnewing wrote:I like me some Shved. Does he wear the hockey #88 for NY?

I hope so.

Brighton Beach and Rego park will be lit up with those jerseys

Knicks1969 wrote:What we need is a young slasher, if that dude is not one but can play PG, what is the need for Calderon? The Calderon deal will forever hurt us.

$7mil a year for 2 more seasons is a deal that will haunt this team forever? Jesus. how did you survive the IT years?!

blkexec wrote:He seems like a glue guy that can do a little of everything. A phil jackson type of guard. with glue guys you cant measure their performance with stats. But hes a fit for the triangle. Can shoot....can drive....can pass....and at 6'5 he can rebound. His motor is the only question mark. But phil is trying to create a system where average players can blossum....similar to the spurs. I see you Phil. He likes making moves that impacts the present and future.

This guy CANNOT SHOOT. Whatever else he does, he cannot shoot with any resemblance of consistency.

36% career FG shooter, 29% 3pt shooter. Shoots free throws pretty weak also 75%.

He's gonna have to improve mightily to be a bad shooter.

People need to calm down on this guy.

nixluva wrote:I know some guys laughed at the idea of Shved but I knew he had some talent that could be tapped. He was a favorite player of me and my sons because he had the funny name, was skinny and really had some nice moves. He had a little swagger to him too and didn't play like a Euro. I knew he'd be a good passer and had driving ability. The only things that were a question were his shooting and his defense. He really has taken advantage of his opportunity. Phil and his staff did a nice job bringing him in. He was targeted by Phil. Shved wasn't just an add on to a trade. they used part of a Trade Exception he got for Felton in order to trade for Shved in what was basically a separate trade from the Prigioni trade for 2 picks. Like Galloway, Shved was a legit scouting win.

I was one of those whom laughed, and now I look foolish!

Can we decide whether to give him the qualifying offer ($4mil or whatever it is), after we've found out what free agents we can sign- or is there some sort of deadline for picking it up before free agency? Even though he's surprised me, $4mil of our $26mil is quite a big chunk that we might need.

smackeddog wrote:

nixluva wrote:I know some guys laughed at the idea of Shved but I knew he had some talent that could be tapped. He was a favorite player of me and my sons because he had the funny name, was skinny and really had some nice moves. He had a little swagger to him too and didn't play like a Euro. I knew he'd be a good passer and had driving ability. The only things that were a question were his shooting and his defense. He really has taken advantage of his opportunity. Phil and his staff did a nice job bringing him in. He was targeted by Phil. Shved wasn't just an add on to a trade. they used part of a Trade Exception he got for Felton in order to trade for Shved in what was basically a separate trade from the Prigioni trade for 2 picks. Like Galloway, Shved was a legit scouting win.

I was one of those whom laughed, and now I look foolish!

Can we decide whether to give him the qualifying offer ($4mil or whatever it is), after we've found out what free agents we can sign- or is there some sort of deadline for picking it up before free agency? Even though he's surprised me, $4mil of our $26mil is quite a big chunk that we might need.

The Knicks could talk to Shved and his agent and try to see if they can sign him for a little less than the QO but that seems to make little sense. At this point Shved is making his stock rise. I'd just give him the QO and if he signs that sets his value at $4 mil. Then they could actually use the stretch on Jose and get some of that cap space back. Shved is pretty much killing it production wise. He's been rocking a PER of 21 and I think he has even more upside if he can take his strength and conditioning seriously this summer and work on his shooting. He does everything else very well.

mreinman wrote:

nixluva wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

nixluva wrote:I know some guys laughed at the idea of Shved but I knew he had some talent that could be tapped. He was a favorite player of me and my sons because he had the funny name, was skinny and really had some nice moves. He had a little swagger to him too and didn't play like a Euro. I knew he'd be a good passer and had driving ability. The only things that were a question were his shooting and his defense. He really has taken advantage of his opportunity. Phil and his staff did a nice job bringing him in. He was targeted by Phil. Shved wasn't just an add on to a trade. they used part of a Trade Exception he got for Felton in order to trade for Shved in what was basically a separate trade from the Prigioni trade for 2 picks. Like Galloway, Shved was a legit scouting win.

I was one of those whom laughed, and now I look foolish!

Can we decide whether to give him the qualifying offer ($4mil or whatever it is), after we've found out what free agents we can sign- or is there some sort of deadline for picking it up before free agency? Even though he's surprised me, $4mil of our $26mil is quite a big chunk that we might need.

The Knicks could talk to Shved and his agent and try to see if they can sign him for a little less than the QO but that seems to make little sense. At this point Shved is making his stock rise. I'd just give him the QO and if he signs that sets his value at $4 mil. Then they could actually use the stretch on Jose and get some of that cap space back. Shved is pretty much killing it production wise. He's been rocking a PER of 21 and I think he has even more upside if he can take his strength and conditioning seriously this summer and work on his shooting. He does everything else very well.

He has looked like a budding superstar of late. If he could only become a consistently ok shooter (at best) then he is a great find.

The kid actually sees the floor really well, penetrates and knows where everybody is. If his teammates could actually hit shots then watch out.

He has looked good but 10 games should not get you $4m($6m cap hold). He has only played 583 minutes this year, that's not that much to go on. He has to be willing to take less. Hopefully, Dolan will pull a JR move, take less and I will give you more later.

smackeddog wrote:

nixluva wrote:I know some guys laughed at the idea of Shved but I knew he had some talent that could be tapped. He was a favorite player of me and my sons because he had the funny name, was skinny and really had some nice moves. He had a little swagger to him too and didn't play like a Euro. I knew he'd be a good passer and had driving ability. The only things that were a question were his shooting and his defense. He really has taken advantage of his opportunity. Phil and his staff did a nice job bringing him in. He was targeted by Phil. Shved wasn't just an add on to a trade. they used part of a Trade Exception he got for Felton in order to trade for Shved in what was basically a separate trade from the Prigioni trade for 2 picks. Like Galloway, Shved was a legit scouting win.

I was one of those whom laughed, and now I look foolish!

Can we decide whether to give him the qualifying offer ($4mil or whatever it is), after we've found out what free agents we can sign- or is there some sort of deadline for picking it up before free agency? Even though he's surprised me, $4mil of our $26mil is quite a big chunk that we might need.

10 games as a Knick: 13/5/3 and shooting 38% and playing good defense as well.
In 3 starts he's putting up 18ppg, 7rebs and 5 assists and shooting very well, and most of all impacting the game. He's not just stuffing the stat sheet, he's making really good plays.

So unless he totally drops off you pick up the QO and at the very worst control his destiny. More than happy to pay $4mm next year for a 1 year deal to keep him around (the QO).

fishmike wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

nixluva wrote:I know some guys laughed at the idea of Shved but I knew he had some talent that could be tapped. He was a favorite player of me and my sons because he had the funny name, was skinny and really had some nice moves. He had a little swagger to him too and didn't play like a Euro. I knew he'd be a good passer and had driving ability. The only things that were a question were his shooting and his defense. He really has taken advantage of his opportunity. Phil and his staff did a nice job bringing him in. He was targeted by Phil. Shved wasn't just an add on to a trade. they used part of a Trade Exception he got for Felton in order to trade for Shved in what was basically a separate trade from the Prigioni trade for 2 picks. Like Galloway, Shved was a legit scouting win.

I was one of those whom laughed, and now I look foolish!

Can we decide whether to give him the qualifying offer ($4mil or whatever it is), after we've found out what free agents we can sign- or is there some sort of deadline for picking it up before free agency? Even though he's surprised me, $4mil of our $26mil is quite a big chunk that we might need.

I mean he looks good... in fact he looks great. So if he keeps this up at some point you have to decide when your going to pay. I mean not every guy is going to be cheap AND great. If Sved plays like he has been then you extend the QO for sure.

10 games as a Knick: 13/5/3 and shooting 38% and playing good defense as well.
In 3 starts he's putting up 18ppg, 7rebs and 5 assists and shooting very well, and most of all impacting the game. He's not just stuffing the stat sheet, he's making really good plays.

So unless he totally drops off you pick up the QO and at the very worst control his destiny. More than happy to pay $4mm next year for a 1 year deal to keep him around (the QO).

Can teams pick up the QO and then rescind it if they need the money for free agency? I have a vague memory of something like that happening, but I could be wrong