nyk4ever wrote:

mreinman wrote:you know when you roll down the window at 80 miles an hour to take a piss and the piss is coming back and splashing your face and you keep on pissing cause you just need to piss?

lol

His shared personal experience is kind of hilarious

He probably wasn't even drunk when he did it

F500ONE wrote:

nyk4ever wrote:

mreinman wrote:you know when you roll down the window at 80 miles an hour to take a piss and the piss is coming back and splashing your face and you keep on pissing cause you just need to piss?

lol

His shared personal experience is kind of hilarious

He probably wasn't even drunk when he did it

i think

he was talking

about how bad

this thread is

im not sure why

im continuing to post

in it and giving it

more credit than

it's due.

F500ONE wrote:

nyk4ever wrote:

mreinman wrote:you know when you roll down the window at 80 miles an hour to take a piss and the piss is coming back and splashing your face and you keep on pissing cause you just need to piss?

lol

His shared personal experience is kind of hilarious

He probably wasn't even drunk when he did it

He's actually talking about your idiotic posts in this thread and the fact that you won't stop pissing in your own face.

F500ONE wrote:

MS wrote:The issue is, what has Phil actually done?

He has cost the Knicks 1.1MM in additional salary and saddled the team with a player that has an additional year on his contract. The culture was bad, we get that. But Shumpert, Chandler and Smith got us what exactly, a 2nd round pick?

If the Cavs were willing to give two first rounders for Mozgov you're telling me we couldn't have worked something out. There wasn't a market to sent him to Atlanta, swap him to the Thunder for Perkins and pick? Golden State for a pick. There had to have been a better deal out there.

Agreed but Phil wanted $6mil in cap space opportunity now

That doesn't present itself until July Melol

Or we simply could have held on to Shumpert

Until the 23rd hour of the deadline and got back better value than a 2019 2nd rounder

But since he's swinging for the fences 2015 free agency

Then pick up the 36oz bat hands in, head down, eyes focused go for it

A 2018 1st with some modest market protection has modest value

It's clearly been proven this whole season and I was happy to educate on this very reality

So we've now changed gears to tactic #3. When your point of view is so idiotic that you have no leg to stand on and most posters are laughing at you ......

1) Create a Straw Man argument and make up stuff....if people don't fall for that then.....
2) Bring up Melo, Melo's contract or simply type Melol....when no one takes the bate for that.....
3) Bash the job Phil has done

You still haven't addressed the point. Why would the Knicks trade their 2018 First Rounder now for $7.7 Mil in cap space, when there is no reason to and he can basically do this move at any time (and let other GM's laugh at him)? Your only answer to this is why not, Phil traded Shump and JR.

foosballnick wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

MS wrote:The issue is, what has Phil actually done?

He has cost the Knicks 1.1MM in additional salary and saddled the team with a player that has an additional year on his contract. The culture was bad, we get that. But Shumpert, Chandler and Smith got us what exactly, a 2nd round pick?

If the Cavs were willing to give two first rounders for Mozgov you're telling me we couldn't have worked something out. There wasn't a market to sent him to Atlanta, swap him to the Thunder for Perkins and pick? Golden State for a pick. There had to have been a better deal out there.

Agreed but Phil wanted $6mil in cap space opportunity now

That doesn't present itself until July Melol

Or we simply could have held on to Shumpert

Until the 23rd hour of the deadline and got back better value than a 2019 2nd rounder

But since he's swinging for the fences 2015 free agency

Then pick up the 36oz bat hands in, head down, eyes focused go for it

A 2018 1st with some modest market protection has modest value

It's clearly been proven this whole season and I was happy to educate on this very reality

So we've now changed gears to tactic #3. When your point of view is so idiotic that you have no leg to stand on and most posters are laughing at you ......

1) Create a Straw Man argument and make up stuff....if people don't fall for that then.....
2) Bring up Melo, Melo's contract or simply type Melol....when no one takes the bate for that.....
3) Bash the job Phil has done

You still haven't addressed the point. Why would the Knicks trade their 2018 First Rounder now for $7.7 Mil in cap space, when there is no reason to and he can basically do this move at any time (and let other GM's laugh at him)? Your only answer to this is why not, Phil traded Shump and JR.

He does it because there's actually a player available

To make a trade for in Chandler, personally I could care less when he does it

That was never the premise of this debate hence you inserted a StrawMan argument here

I'm for anchoring a 2018 1st to Calderon creating cap space[$7.7mil] in 2015 or 2016

Now your turn prove that a 1st rounder has significantly more value than this

F500ONE wrote:

foosballnick wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

MS wrote:The issue is, what has Phil actually done?

He has cost the Knicks 1.1MM in additional salary and saddled the team with a player that has an additional year on his contract. The culture was bad, we get that. But Shumpert, Chandler and Smith got us what exactly, a 2nd round pick?

If the Cavs were willing to give two first rounders for Mozgov you're telling me we couldn't have worked something out. There wasn't a market to sent him to Atlanta, swap him to the Thunder for Perkins and pick? Golden State for a pick. There had to have been a better deal out there.

Agreed but Phil wanted $6mil in cap space opportunity now

That doesn't present itself until July Melol

Or we simply could have held on to Shumpert

Until the 23rd hour of the deadline and got back better value than a 2019 2nd rounder

But since he's swinging for the fences 2015 free agency

Then pick up the 36oz bat hands in, head down, eyes focused go for it

A 2018 1st with some modest market protection has modest value

It's clearly been proven this whole season and I was happy to educate on this very reality

So we've now changed gears to tactic #3. When your point of view is so idiotic that you have no leg to stand on and most posters are laughing at you ......

1) Create a Straw Man argument and make up stuff....if people don't fall for that then.....
2) Bring up Melo, Melo's contract or simply type Melol....when no one takes the bate for that.....
3) Bash the job Phil has done

You still haven't addressed the point. Why would the Knicks trade their 2018 First Rounder now for $7.7 Mil in cap space, when there is no reason to and he can basically do this move at any time (and let other GM's laugh at him)? Your only answer to this is why not, Phil traded Shump and JR.

He does it because there's actually a player available

To make a trade for in Chandler, personally I could care less when he does it

That was never the premise of this debate hence you inserted a StrawMan argument here

I'm for anchoring a 2018 1st to Calderon creating cap space[$7.7mil] in 2015 or 2016

Now your turn prove that a 1st rounder has significantly more value than this

1) Not a straw man.....there's a player available now who may or may not be available later and you have indicated you want to act on it.....that generally means that you are advocating for the trade now while the player is available....DUH.

2) I honestly don't know what the 1st Round pick is worth.... the value of first rounders seems to be all over the place. The worth seems to have a volatility or variability based on need and desperation. Trading a pick is about opportunity cost. The better the pick, the higher the worth. Timing also comes into play...trading a pick on draft day might yield a higher result because another team covets a certain player to draft. So while you might think you have it all figured out....most here agree that the opportunity cost of a first rounder is not worth trading for $7.7 million in cap space at this time...."SITUATION" comes into play........the team could have over $30 million in cap space available going into this offseason.....do they need the extra $7.7 million this year? Won't know until after the draft and things flush out further. There are no absolutes but not even worth talking about trading the pick for space and Chandler at this point.