mreinman wrote:

Splat wrote:

mreinman wrote:
though feel free to dump on kobe

what does kobe have to do with anything in this thread?

your quote

"I barely engaged in the Kobe conversations"

why not? he should be everything that you hate if you are being fair and balanced.

I liked what you said about amare though ("awesome"). He is a numb nut bonehead and I can't fathom how knowledgeable fans still defend this guy.

mreinman wrote:

Splat wrote:

mreinman wrote:
though feel free to dump on kobe

what does kobe have to do with anything in this thread?

your quote

"I barely engaged in the Kobe conversations"

why not? he should be everything that you hate if you are being fair and balanced.

Oh, didn't quite get your drift then. I merely poked fun at the Kobe trade thread which was to my understanding a unicorn fantasy without the least substance imaginable. Will never happen, hence kind of like watching hamsters with party hats do treadmill laps while saying "Hey, we're really getting somewhere with this."

Kobe? Meh. Don't need to get into it. Ya know, he's gone soon, just like Stat. If Kobe was a Knick, I'd probably give birth to the antichrist myself and let my fetal spawn post their contempt of Kobe on the board. But he's a Laker, so I don't really care. This club could be 2-16 now with Kobe so I'd love it if he was here this season to help the cause, but the realist in me says it won't happen and he'll just have to torture Jeremy Lin the rest of the year.

Amare is indefensible. Briggs may be out of his mind from what I saw. Thinking effort alone = a valuable contribution is funny stuff. Stat couldn't alphabetize a three book library.

mreinman wrote:I would like Kobe here. Its getting kinda boring and I need a new local hate guy.

True. Kobe kind of likes playing the villain. It would be more eggregiously entertaining than airhead Melo's comments. Melo is one of the most boring people imaginable.

mreinman wrote:

Splat wrote:

mreinman wrote:I would like Kobe here. Its getting kinda boring and I need a new local hate guy.

True. Kobe kind of likes playing the villain. It would be more eggregiously entertaining than airhead Melo's comments. Melo is one of the most boring people imaginable.

He is boring but I don't really care to listen to what he says. Kinda boring and innocuous but you guys love to make more out of it than it is.

Remember ... he is not that eloquent (or mr bright) so its silly to read into what he says.

Perhaps, but boring and innocuous has never been historically aligned with harmless or without bad intent. Not that I'm ascribing anything evil to what he says, but I do think the transparency of his primary concern for wealth has hurt this club. Committing to a loser like Melo is a curse the club is now under. His words are not uttered by the mind of a champion, so that's why it matters to me. They are the words of a self-absorbed prima donna. Maybe I've gone too far at times calling him a prick, but I do blame the franchise for selling its soul one more time to a non-entity of a person like Melo who happens to do only one thing well on the court.

Whatever I guess. He's a dolt. End of story.

mreinman wrote:

Splat wrote:

mreinman wrote:

Splat wrote:

mreinman wrote:I would like Kobe here. Its getting kinda boring and I need a new local hate guy.

True. Kobe kind of likes playing the villain. It would be more eggregiously entertaining than airhead Melo's comments. Melo is one of the most boring people imaginable.

He is boring but I don't really care to listen to what he says. Kinda boring and innocuous but you guys love to make more out of it than it is.

Remember ... he is not that eloquent (or mr bright) so its silly to read into what he says.

Perhaps, but boring and innocuous has never been historically aligned with harmless or without bad intent. Not that I'm ascribing anything evil to what he says, but I do think the transparency of his primary concern for wealth has hurt this club. Committing to a loser like Melo is a curse the club is now under. His words are not uttered by the mind of a champion, so that's why it matters to me. They are the words of a self-absorbed prima donna. Maybe I've gone too far at times calling him a prick, but I do blame the franchise for selling its soul one more time to a non-entity of a person like Melo who happens to do only one thing well on the court.

Whatever I guess. He's a dolt. End of story.

blame management. He did what I would def do from this sorry franchise. Take the damn money!

no way he leaves 50 million on the table and I don't think there were any other serious offers. Dallas? Cuban said no. Houston? smelled funny. LA? Why LA?

Splat wrote:

mreinman wrote:

Splat wrote:

mreinman wrote:

Splat wrote:

mreinman wrote:I would like Kobe here. Its getting kinda boring and I need a new local hate guy.

True. Kobe kind of likes playing the villain. It would be more eggregiously entertaining than airhead Melo's comments. Melo is one of the most boring people imaginable.

He is boring but I don't really care to listen to what he says. Kinda boring and innocuous but you guys love to make more out of it than it is.

Remember ... he is not that eloquent (or mr bright) so its silly to read into what he says.

Perhaps, but boring and innocuous has never been historically aligned with harmless or without bad intent. Not that I'm ascribing anything evil to what he says, but I do think the transparency of his primary concern for wealth has hurt this club. Committing to a loser like Melo is a curse the club is now under. His words are not uttered by the mind of a champion, so that's why it matters to me. They are the words of a self-absorbed prima donna. Maybe I've gone too far at times calling him a prick, but I do blame the franchise for selling its soul one more time to a non-entity of a person like Melo who happens to do only one thing well on the court.

Whatever I guess. He's a dolt. End of story.

blame management. He did what I would def do from this sorry franchise. Take the damn money!

no way he leaves 50 million on the table and I don't think there were any other serious offers.

You're right. Melo understood all of that.

What I think is also true is he is not really that confident of his abilities to make anything happen, yet he is still trapped in the persona of being the top dog. It must be a weird psychic head to live inside of being in NYC. I'd hate being that guy who knows they are not all that great. In that case, it makes perfect sense to take the money, play for a butt awful franchise and not risk going to Chicago and being exposed as just another ball player. Here, he gets to jack shots and let the legions of fans defend him by saying he is not surrounded by talent, hence he needs to jack shots.

Melo is just self-aware to realize all of this and take the money. In which case, he did what he should do, because he is not a champ and this was a once in a lifetime payday for an overall mediocre ballplayer. I can't blame him for that as you say.

The franchise? Well, they're the ultimate chumps. Phil is looking like a big-time loser already. Signing Melo like he did was pure capitulation and zero spine. Gutless.

Go to Chicago and leave 50 million on the table? And maybe still looking like a chump? Chicago has issues and all the blame goes on Melo?

C'mon. rank him anywhere you want but he made the right move. There is no question that he did.

Also, phil and Dolan are not sending a half billion dollar cow out of the building. Who are we kidding?

The dude sells tickets ... case closed. Now lets see what they put around him this time, they fukked that up last time and I don't know if they will have another chance.

We are stuck with him and you are dreaming if you actually thought that they would let him go. Now you have your hate guy ... I am jealous.

mreinman wrote:
Go to Chicago and leave 50 million on the table? And maybe still looking like a chump? Chicago has issues and all the blame goes on Melo?

C'mon. rank him anywhere you want but he made the right move. There is no question that he did.

Also, phil and Dolan are not sending a half billion dollar cow out of the building. Who are we kidding?

The dude sells tickets ... case closed. Now lets see what they put around him this time, they fukked that up last time and I don't know if they will have another chance.

We are stuck with him and you are dreaming if you actually thought that they would let him go. Now you have your hate guy ... I am jealous.

You are exceedingly elegant and on the money tonight sir.

I agree with it all. I'm not burying my head in the sand and saying he is an awful human being for taking the money. For all of the reasons you and I state it was the move he had to make. And yes, he's a narcissist and it pains me to have him be the core player.

I'm more fatigued than driven by contempt at this point; just flattened by this long, grueling wait for a relevant team.

The existential question becomes what am I rooting for? Do I keep waiting for Godot?

I don't buy tickets. I don't use MSG cable. I don't really give Dolan any of my money. But at a certain point my eyeballs may have to rest elsewhere. This is getting painful to watch.

Maybe the only solution is to take the rest of the season off, not even look at the results and wait and see what happens next year. I was not just spoofing FireWoodson with my set of Addiction GIFs. I was copping to my chitty addiction to this team. I feel doity.

Splat wrote:

mreinman wrote:
Go to Chicago and leave 50 million on the table? And maybe still looking like a chump? Chicago has issues and all the blame goes on Melo?

C'mon. rank him anywhere you want but he made the right move. There is no question that he did.

Also, phil and Dolan are not sending a half billion dollar cow out of the building. Who are we kidding?

The dude sells tickets ... case closed. Now lets see what they put around him this time, they fukked that up last time and I don't know if they will have another chance.

We are stuck with him and you are dreaming if you actually thought that they would let him go. Now you have your hate guy ... I am jealous.

You are exceedingly elegant and on the money tonight sir.

I agree with it all. I'm not burying my head in the sand and saying he is an awful human being for taking the money. For all of the reasons you and I state it was the move he had to make. And yes, he's a narcissist and it pains me to have him be the core player.

I'm more fatigued than driven by contempt at this point; just flattened by this long, grueling wait for a relevant team.

The existential question becomes what am I rooting for? Do I keep waiting for Godot?

I don't buy tickets. I don't use MSG cable. I don't really give Dolan any of my money. But at a certain point my eyeballs may have to rest elsewhere. This is getting painful to watch.

Maybe the only solution is to take the rest of the season off, not even look at the results and wait and see what happens next year. I was not just spoofing FireWoodson with my set of Addiction GIFs. I was copping to my chitty addiction to this team. I feel doity.

Yea ... its horrible to be a knick fan right now but its also quite entertaining. I need to watch every game like a 40 virgin watching General Hospital. I find the knicks and the politics surrounding them quite theatrical.

I am lukewarm on Melo because like a stupid homer I still hold out hope that he can get to 58+ TS and average > 5 assists a game. He can do it with ease and that pisses the shyt out of me. Slowly I am getting angrier and angrier at him though he always has my attention. The dude is polarizing ... just look at this board.

I say that I want to tank but I hate tanking ... I am too competitive. I see a missed pass or non team oriented basketball and I cringe. Fuk the tank ... lets play good basketball.

To me it all starts with sharing the ball and we are terrible at that. We reluctantly pass out of the post like we have a gun to our heads. All our players would benefit if the ball moved faster out of the double teams.

We also NEEEEEEEEED just one good freakin guard ... ugh!

Shump (you can't excel if you are the worst on the league and taking it to the hole). Way over rated defensively.
Thj (I could be wrong here but I have said this all along. Don't see it ... too streaky and weak minded - sell high and fast cause I am not sure that playing him at this point makes his stock rise)
JR (don't know why but I have a crazy feeling that Phil takes on this challenge and can make him serviceable to good - I know ... my homer-ism ...)
Dalembert is plain terrible (sorry yellow)
Stat has actually surprised me ... can't believe I said that. See ya!
Larkin plays defense which is nice but he can't finish (gonner anyway)
Prigs ... to old and awful on defense. Can shoots lights out if we moved the ball out of the double teams.
Jose - I think he may be my type of player
Cole - no idea what he did wrong to not get PT
Wear - nice bench player ... smart with the ball
Early - thought it was an excellent pick. looks like a smart player who may surprise
Bargnani - makes me seeth that the knicks could make this move. It had to have been fixed. Off to Europe perhaps next year or maybe in Israel with Amare. So long fare well I bid to say goodbye ba ba da da ...

I hated Tyson more than anyone. Thought he was a fraud and his offensive liabilities did not show up in the stat sheet. So far it looks like we lost this trade though I would really like to see what we have in early and that greek freak before I complete my judgement.

There is my RonRon / TripleThread blabber post