dk7th wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

dk7th wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

dk7th wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

Nalod wrote:Until Melo is Lebron
F500one won't be happy.

But at least Phil is on the UK
And reading F500one posts

Its about being right
than basketball.

Its hating 101. U pick standards that u Know the person won't reach so u can always have a platform to hate.

For example if I wanted to hate on prime Steve Nash I would demand that he make first team all defense in order to gain my respect.

the only true standard is whether the player is a net positive-sum player. nash was a net positive-sum playerand for the record the suns were robbed of a title the year the spurs swept the cavs.

since when has carmelo anthony EVER been a net positive-sum player?

Probably all the years he was making the playoffs in Denver as the best player on the team. Don't think those Denver teams were strong enough to make the playoffs if he wasn't making positive contributions.

But that wasn't the point. Like I said if I wanted to hate on Nash I could just harp on his lack of defense regardless of anything he accomplished.

ehh the league has been a bloated diluted mess for 15+ years now. rummaging through europe and the ncaa and whatnot has not helped much.

making the playoffs is not that tough since the playoff format allows half the teams in, guaranteeing mediocrity is rewarded. you do understand that, don't you?

it' how you do in the second rounds and beyond that makes you successful-- if you make it that far.

Haha

Goal post move alert goal post move alert. I'm on my phone so I can't break down this reply appropriately. Typical though, measure up to the exact spot specific player has fallen short of and make THAT the standard.

Not like the West was a tough confrence during those times or anything. Nothing like the amazing eastern conf where Nets and Philly made the finals. When Kidd lost in the first round his first 5 yrs in Pheniox he must have been a empty calorie zero sum player but when he moved to that golden east era of the 2000s...

it's only a goal post move when the person being accused has maintained a different standard in the first place and then changed that standard. my standard has remained the same. again, consistently making the first round of playoffs is just no big deal because it still falls under the definition of mediocrity.

you do understand that by allowing half the teams in the league into the playoffs that it is rewarding mediocrity somewhere somehow, right? yes or no?

and that there are teams who compile gaudy records in the regular season but are not really playoff-caliber teams as their seeding would indicate? and conversely, there are teams whose records are not as good but who nonetheless are better playoff teams than their regular-season records would indicate? have you ever considered why this is so?

keep your eyes on the road and your hands upon the wheel.

Thanks for the concern :). I was at work though, texting and driving ain't me.

With all that said, you are getting hung up on me saying playoffs. Reguardless of how the NBA formats the playoffs today allowing half the teams to make it. Denver still had to win 40+-50 games. You are claiming that Anthony had 0 impact on Denver winning those 40+ to 50 games. Which in reality he probably contributed to 10 wins.

Denver also had to deal with a lot of injuries through the yrs. In 05-06, Nene played 1 game, Camby played 56 games, Kmart played 56 games. There was no Iverson, no Billups. Yet they won a mediocre 44 games. If Melo was a 0 sum player then Andre Miller should have been the MVP of the NBA that yr.

You also acknowledge that Denver was mediocre and got in the playoffs due to the NBA format. Yet have no problem throwing Carmelo under the bus as the reason why Denver lost in the playoffs as they failed to defeat better teams then them.

As to y Denver was mediocre. Maybe because when Melo was on his rookie contract and they had money to burn to build a contending team. They gambled on Kmart in a sign & trade giving up 3 first round picks and a 7 yr 90 mil contract. That deal locked them in mediocrity. If Kmart worked out it may have been a different story or if the money and picks used landed someone else or multiple players who ended up working out then there story may have been different. Imagine that 90mil going to a real 20-10 big man. Swinging and missing on Skeet the yr earlier before they landed Melo with there #6 draft pick didn't help either.

F500ONE wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

No Lin or Kidd to save us last year

No Lin or Kidd to save us this year

What exactly did Lin save us from?

Watching him act

as a turnover machine

in the playoffs?

Well if you're too dense to recollect

Think of the here and now sitting at 2-6

This team needs someone to save Melo and The Knicks

From another disastrous season

Maybe phone Bobby Brown up overseas

See if he can give us a kick in the Crack Jawsanity

Then maybe we go on a 9-1, 10-0 streak

Maybe you're too dense to recollect Lin's turnover problem?
Or getting torched by Deron Williams or any number of others?
Or maybe you live in a world where Lin actually played in the playoffs for the Knicks?
Or maybe you enjoyed Kidd's shooting displays at the end of that season he saved for us?
Maybe you could double space your way to some coherent concepts on those points.

Or perhaps you could think about how 54 win season means less than nothing
but a two week wonder that flamed out before the jv season was over means everything to you.

Or maybe you could ponder 2 + 6 = 8 whole games
before playing the Crack card
while freebasing on LinKiddles

We have a savior.
His name is Phil.

Grow some patience.

Harris had Melo guarding him last night and went to the rim. Got the call and went to the line. Melo's FTA are down this year and have been down since coming to NY from Denver.

It seems to me that he is trying and wants to play the system but he seems to revert to ISO-Melo when he feels he needs to score.

Uptown wrote:

GoNyGoNyGo wrote:Is it me, or does Melo hardly ever take it to the rim anymore. He seems to always settle for the jump shot. Also, when is the last time Melo posted up?

Harris had Melo guarding him last night and went to the rim. Got the call and went to the line. Melo's FTA are down this year and have been down since coming to NY from Denver.

It seems to me that he is trying and wants to play the system but he seems to revert to ISO-Melo when he feels he needs to score.

Not exactly....When he receives the ball on the weakside pinch post, the problem i'm seeing is the guys on the other side stop moving. They are supposed to be setting pin down screens, switching out top etc. Jordan and Kobe scored a ton of points from that very spot....And as Isiah said on NBA TV the other night, when he played the Bulls, the last 5 mins in a close game, the triangle ceased to exist and Jordan took over the game...difference is, when he received it, his teammates continued to move off the ball.

They seem to get good looks when they run the system but when they don't it's like the last few years all over again. I sometimes think when the system is going good and other guys are scoring, Melo starts getting antsy to score himself rather than letting it come to him.