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WaltLongmire
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10/22/2014  8:43 PM
mreinman wrote:Larkin looked impressive (on offense)

Dalembert had defensive moments

Amare was consistently stupid

Shump looked great

Melo played ugly selfish basketball that won't help him when his shot is off - CREATE TO PASS PLEASE

Like Cole on the floor

THJ ... eh

Knicks defense was pretty awful but tightened up towards the end of the half

Will Fisher address this? I started watching the game with about 4 minutes left in the half. You can see how the flow stops at times when Anthony holds the ball too long or other players pay too much attention to getting him the ball.

The real issue is how Fisher and Jackson deal with this tender subject.

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10/22/2014  8:43 PM
mreinman wrote:
F500ONE wrote:
WaltLongmire wrote:
Finestrg wrote:See right there --- exactly Clyde -- why is Larkin looking to give the ball up like a hot potato all the time? keep the ball young man. You're the QB out there

Larkin and Hardaway did the same thing- looking to hard to get the ball to Anthony- and in both cases you ended with a turnover.

Always a problem when youngsters and other players play with a scorer like Anthony- they feel the urge to defer. Sometimes they play better and more naturally without the star on the floor.

I expect that this goes on all over the league at times.

Hopefully Fisher has a good talk with Larkin.


Did anyone read the article on Kobe Bryant by ESPN?

The article was such a powerful exposing piece of the douchebag that is Kobe

LINK PLEASE????????

It's very long are you sure you want to read it

There a reason why Kobe befriends Melo and likewise


The Olympic bond makes sense and all things stated since by the two

A Douchebag knows another Douchebag very well

mreinman
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10/22/2014  8:47 PM
F500ONE wrote:
mreinman wrote:
F500ONE wrote:
WaltLongmire wrote:
Finestrg wrote:See right there --- exactly Clyde -- why is Larkin looking to give the ball up like a hot potato all the time? keep the ball young man. You're the QB out there

Larkin and Hardaway did the same thing- looking to hard to get the ball to Anthony- and in both cases you ended with a turnover.

Always a problem when youngsters and other players play with a scorer like Anthony- they feel the urge to defer. Sometimes they play better and more naturally without the star on the floor.

I expect that this goes on all over the league at times.

Hopefully Fisher has a good talk with Larkin.


Did anyone read the article on Kobe Bryant by ESPN?

The article was such a powerful exposing piece of the douchebag that is Kobe

LINK PLEASE????????

It's very long are you sure you want to read it

There a reason why Kobe befriends Melo and likewise


The Olympic bond makes sense and all things stated since by the two

A Douchebag knows another Douchebag very well

Am I too dumb to read a long article?

Melo has lots of Kobe's selfish traits and I am pretty balanced about him .... but can only be compared to kobe's azzhole level by haters

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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10/22/2014  8:47 PM
mreinman wrote:
WaltLongmire wrote:
Finestrg wrote:See right there --- exactly Clyde -- why is Larkin looking to give the ball up like a hot potato all the time? keep the ball young man. You're the QB out there

Larkin and Hardaway did the same thing- looking to hard to get the ball to Anthony- and in both cases you ended with a turnover.

Always a problem when youngsters play with a scorer like Anthony- they feel the urge to defer. Sometimes they play better and more naturally without the star on the floor.

I expect that this goes on all over the league at times.

Hopefully Fisher has a good talk with Larkin.

He must have because Larkin closed the half pretty nicely but I agree. I hate the deferring to "the alpha dog"

There is still a big difference in what Hardaway and Larkin did though. Hardaway missed Melo on a back door cut off a designed pinched post. Things like that will happen with any player because there are built in cuts in the triangle sets.

Larkin on the other hand threw an arrant pass to Melo in the back court when the system is designed for the guard to bring up the ball and another guard to trail. It wasn't a fast break or anything it was a mental break down that is not in the system.

You can live with what Hardaway did because that is going to happen when you have players moving but what Larkin did was a system fail.

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10/22/2014  8:48 PM
WaltLongmire wrote:
mreinman wrote:Larkin looked impressive (on offense)

Dalembert had defensive moments

Amare was consistently stupid

Shump looked great

Melo played ugly selfish basketball that won't help him when his shot is off - CREATE TO PASS PLEASE

Like Cole on the floor

THJ ... eh

Knicks defense was pretty awful but tightened up towards the end of the half

Will Fisher address this? I started watching the game with about 4 minutes left in the half. You can see how the flow stops at times when Anthony holds the ball too long or other players pay too much attention to getting him the ball.

The real issue is how Fisher and Jackson deal with this tender subject.

I think in the film sessions Fish will point it out and after enough times it will be embarrassing for Melo. He'll get the point.

Overall the team has caught on and bought in to the ball and player movement. It's gotten better and better.

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10/22/2014  8:49 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:
mreinman wrote:
WaltLongmire wrote:
Finestrg wrote:See right there --- exactly Clyde -- why is Larkin looking to give the ball up like a hot potato all the time? keep the ball young man. You're the QB out there

Larkin and Hardaway did the same thing- looking to hard to get the ball to Anthony- and in both cases you ended with a turnover.

Always a problem when youngsters play with a scorer like Anthony- they feel the urge to defer. Sometimes they play better and more naturally without the star on the floor.

I expect that this goes on all over the league at times.

Hopefully Fisher has a good talk with Larkin.

He must have because Larkin closed the half pretty nicely but I agree. I hate the deferring to "the alpha dog"

There is still a big difference in what Hardaway and Larkin did though. Hardaway missed Melo on a back door cut off a designed pinched post. Things like that will happen with any player because there are built in cuts in the triangle sets.

Larkin on the other hand threw an arrant pass to Melo in the back court when the system is designed for the guard to bring up the ball and another guard to trail. It wasn't a fast break or anything it was a mental break down that is not in the system.

You can live with what Hardaway did because that is going to happen when you have players moving but what Larkin did was a system fail.

Those Larkin passes are easy fixes. I think that there is room for him here.

THJ's jumper is just inconsistent and he does not do much else (yet)

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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10/22/2014  8:49 PM    LAST EDITED: 10/22/2014  8:50 PM
WaltLongmire wrote:
mreinman wrote:Larkin looked impressive (on offense)

Dalembert had defensive moments

Amare was consistently stupid

Shump looked great

Melo played ugly selfish basketball that won't help him when his shot is off - CREATE TO PASS PLEASE

Like Cole on the floor

THJ ... eh

Knicks defense was pretty awful but tightened up towards the end of the half

Will Fisher address this? I started watching the game with about 4 minutes left in the half. You can see how the flow stops at times when Anthony holds the ball too long or other players pay too much attention to getting him the ball.

The real issue is how Fisher and Jackson deal with this tender subject.

I just don't see Melo and JR Smith being the typical triangle guys Fisher/Phil probably want to have. I haven't seen much sharing of the ball from these guys---alright with Melo, we kinda need him to look for his own but I'm telling you--F JR smith. If he starts chucking shots and holding the ball I'd sit him.

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10/22/2014  8:51 PM
WaltLongmire wrote:
mreinman wrote:Larkin looked impressive (on offense)

Dalembert had defensive moments

Amare was consistently stupid

Shump looked great

Melo played ugly selfish basketball that won't help him when his shot is off - CREATE TO PASS PLEASE

Like Cole on the floor

THJ ... eh

Knicks defense was pretty awful but tightened up towards the end of the half

Will Fisher address this? I started watching the game with about 4 minutes left in the half. You can see how the flow stops at times when Anthony holds the ball too long or other players pay too much attention to getting him the ball.

The real issue is how Fisher and Jackson deal with this tender subject.

This is going to happen with every go to player but the objective is to limit it to only a few times. To remind Melo and the pgs to get back to the system in breaks of play. I think you saw that as the half closed.

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10/22/2014  8:51 PM
nixluva wrote:
WaltLongmire wrote:
mreinman wrote:Larkin looked impressive (on offense)

Dalembert had defensive moments

Amare was consistently stupid

Shump looked great

Melo played ugly selfish basketball that won't help him when his shot is off - CREATE TO PASS PLEASE

Like Cole on the floor

THJ ... eh

Knicks defense was pretty awful but tightened up towards the end of the half

Will Fisher address this? I started watching the game with about 4 minutes left in the half. You can see how the flow stops at times when Anthony holds the ball too long or other players pay too much attention to getting him the ball.

The real issue is how Fisher and Jackson deal with this tender subject.

I think in the film sessions Fish will point it out and after enough times it will be embarrassing for Melo. He'll get the point.

Overall the team has caught on and bought in to the ball and player movement. It's gotten better and better.

Starting to doubt that.

Fisher should say to Melo, go out and get me 8 assists. Melo seems to respond by saying "don't tell me what to do, Journeyman"

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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10/22/2014  8:51 PM
I think Larkin is sticking with Wall pretty well...Wall is just a dynamite player
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10/22/2014  8:51 PM    LAST EDITED: 10/22/2014  8:53 PM
mreinman wrote:
F500ONE wrote:
mreinman wrote:
F500ONE wrote:
WaltLongmire wrote:
Finestrg wrote:See right there --- exactly Clyde -- why is Larkin looking to give the ball up like a hot potato all the time? keep the ball young man. You're the QB out there

Larkin and Hardaway did the same thing- looking to hard to get the ball to Anthony- and in both cases you ended with a turnover.

Always a problem when youngsters and other players play with a scorer like Anthony- they feel the urge to defer. Sometimes they play better and more naturally without the star on the floor.

I expect that this goes on all over the league at times.

Hopefully Fisher has a good talk with Larkin.


Did anyone read the article on Kobe Bryant by ESPN?

The article was such a powerful exposing piece of the douchebag that is Kobe

LINK PLEASE????????

It's very long are you sure you want to read it

There a reason why Kobe befriends Melo and likewise


The Olympic bond makes sense and all things stated since by the two

A Douchebag knows another Douchebag very well

Am I too dumb to read a long article?

Melo has lots of Kobe's selfish traits and I am pretty balanced about him .... but can only be compared to kobe's azzhole level by haters


This article slays him and puts him to sleep

http://espn.go.com/espn/feature/story/_/id/11717596/is-kobe-bryant-reason-los-angeles-lakers-downfall


If anyone is a Kobe fan, instant depression sets in afterwards

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10/22/2014  8:53 PM    LAST EDITED: 10/22/2014  8:54 PM
Good move by Larkin -- just missed the layup. Wanna see him make the move with more conviction. This kid's gotta look to get in the lane past his man everytime
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10/22/2014  8:54 PM
Timmy again
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10/22/2014  8:56 PM
Melo! PICK UP YOUR FUKKING HEAD
so here is what phil is thinking ....
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10/22/2014  8:56 PM
Melo is on his usual
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10/22/2014  8:58 PM
F500ONE wrote:Melo is on his usual

Yeah it's not looking good
Knicksfan: Hypocrite league that fines players after the game for flopping but in the game and with obvious flopping they call the fouls.
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10/22/2014  8:59 PM
These turnovers are horrendous...
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10/22/2014  8:59 PM
How many humans on earth are as quick as Wall? Larkin is one of them. Larkin is small and that's really the only issue. He's doing than Felton ever did trying to defend Wall.
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10/22/2014  9:00 PM
Loving Dally passing and Jason swishing
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10/22/2014  9:01 PM
Jason Smith's midrange J has looked very good
so here is what phil is thinking ....
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