dk7th wrote:

H1AND1 wrote:

Nalod wrote:1. George was in charge in 2007 when the opt out controversy happend.
2. 2009 he was post season MVP and yanks win world series.

My point was his trajectory was differrent than what history can tell us.
Naturally to reboot that contract AGAIN was not a good move for the Yanks one can see AT THAT TIME the business aspect of it
and how the return of investment could be made as Arod moved into baseball's elite all time and excceded some of Bonds records.

From the time Paul O'neils resurgent career and temper tantrums to Scott Brocious becoming "Babe Ruth" one had to suspect Yanks roid use was pretty heavy.
Im not saying Yanks were the only ones but at the organizational level it had to have been known but contracts were still offered as it was throughout MLB.

Im sure most of us shook our heads when Arod got reupped at that staggering number and at the same time a sense of relief in 2009 when he seemed to have shook off his post season demons.

Given that, I think to lay special claim in "I told you so" is not so unique. Same with Amare's signing. WE all read the same thing about his knees and what could happen to his back.

To shyt on the yankees while we say good bye to Jeets and of course nobody can see a bright future is the media does not show it to us is not a special talent.
Yanks need never win in our lifetimes and they will still be the greatest pro franchise in History. Parity is now upon us and the money is not at the advantage it once was.
So which one of you special talent prognosticators gonna predict doom?

Whoa is the NY mecca media fed sports fan!!!

Wasn't George totally senile at that point and his sons were basically in charge?

yes he was way out of it. so far as brosius and o'neill using roids... don' know about that.

George stepped down in 2009. As to how sharp he was at that point or his involvment I don't know.

Nalod wrote:

dk7th wrote:

H1AND1 wrote:

Nalod wrote:1. George was in charge in 2007 when the opt out controversy happend.
2. 2009 he was post season MVP and yanks win world series.

My point was his trajectory was differrent than what history can tell us.
Naturally to reboot that contract AGAIN was not a good move for the Yanks one can see AT THAT TIME the business aspect of it
and how the return of investment could be made as Arod moved into baseball's elite all time and excceded some of Bonds records.

From the time Paul O'neils resurgent career and temper tantrums to Scott Brocious becoming "Babe Ruth" one had to suspect Yanks roid use was pretty heavy.
Im not saying Yanks were the only ones but at the organizational level it had to have been known but contracts were still offered as it was throughout MLB.

Im sure most of us shook our heads when Arod got reupped at that staggering number and at the same time a sense of relief in 2009 when he seemed to have shook off his post season demons.

Given that, I think to lay special claim in "I told you so" is not so unique. Same with Amare's signing. WE all read the same thing about his knees and what could happen to his back.

To shyt on the yankees while we say good bye to Jeets and of course nobody can see a bright future is the media does not show it to us is not a special talent.
Yanks need never win in our lifetimes and they will still be the greatest pro franchise in History. Parity is now upon us and the money is not at the advantage it once was.
So which one of you special talent prognosticators gonna predict doom?

Whoa is the NY mecca media fed sports fan!!!

Wasn't George totally senile at that point and his sons were basically in charge?

yes he was way out of it. so far as brosius and o'neill using roids... don' know about that.

George stepped down in 2009. As to how sharp he was at that point or his involvment I don't know.

It's pretty widely known that George was not involved pretty much at all the last couple years he was alive and that he was likely suffering from some sort of dementia or Alzheimer's type ailment.

From 2006 to his death, George Steinbrenner spent most of his time in Tampa, Florida, leaving the Yankees to be run by his sons Hank and Hal Steinbrenner. Hank in particular shows similar traits to his father.[32]

After ceding day-to-day control of the team, Steinbrenner made few public appearances and gave no interviews. Associates and family members refused to comment on rampant speculation concerning his declining health, specifically rumors that he was suffering from Alzheimer's disease. The Yankees went to great lengths to prevent anyone outside Steinbrenner's immediate family and closest business associates from speaking to him, or even getting a glimpse of him on the rare occasions when he made an appearance at Yankee Stadium. Temporary curtains were set up to block views of his entry and exit routes, and no one was allowed near the vehicles transporting him. The press elevator carrying media members downstairs to the interview areas were shut down before he arrived, and again toward the end of the game while he departed.[33]

That's from Wikipedia, there's more there.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Steinbrenner

Nalod wrote:Then they won a series in 2009 with the boys at the helm for few years.

Look, it is what it is and the Yankees have to starphuch otherwise they don't sell seats!
Its ENTERTAINMENT and those corp. boxes have to sell! If you go into a deep rebuild its all well and good but we all know
that somtimes takes years and even so does not always work.
While Cano was a "Star" his contract might have been ok for a few years but then becomes problematic as he gets on in age.
St louis let Pujols walk and they did not lose a step. Pujols is freaking this era's Stan Musual but the bottom line is he got offered a huge contract and that outweighted
retiring a Cardinal. Yanks made Cano an offer as did ST Louis to Pujols. The Loyalty has to be from both parties. Seattle needed a franchise face and was willing to pay up.

We are not used to Yanks not at least making the playoffs and need to blame someone.

One championship in 13 years. Was that like 8 years, then another 5 since?

Lots of teams have not one one in 8 years, let alone 5.

So if you fire Cashman, whats the new guy gonna do? Tell the owners they have to suck it up? Or the owners gonna tell him what they want?

Get it? No magic man gonna come in and mystify a change overnight. Wanna build thru the farm? Then do it. The CashMan can hire that dude. Maybe they already have???

Can we bring Tino back one more time???

Stars taking in their Paris performances included CC Sabathia, John Legend and Chrissy Teigen.

CC is partying hard with jayz and Beyonce in paris this past sunday..wtf