nixluva wrote:

dk7th wrote:

nixluva wrote:All that matters is how Melo and the team performs from here on. It's a new day, new leadership and new culture!!! I could care less what Melo says in relation to his contract. I care how he feels about the team, Coach and GM. We need to see how this all comes together. I don't see Melo not buying in to the new culture Fish and Phil are creating here. He has no reason to resist since this system is going to be based on doing things he's already great at doing. It should make him a more efficient player along with a more efficient team. Sure his comments are a bit phony. Lots of players make similar kinds of comments. In the end it's meaningless.

"in the end" how would you know it's meaningless? that's the tail wagging the dog, my friend.

When this team is playing unselfish BB and winning games with the very same Melo as the lead player, there will be silence from his detractors. It's really not about his words. It's gonna be about what this team does on the court. We have IMO the best leaderships we've had in more than a decade. Phil is here and has been putting his people in place. We saw already how that impacted the SL team and all the decisions Phil has made so far have been to the betterment of this team. It's just the beginning but you get the sense that things are changing for the better. Guys are making too much of Melo's comments as if it really has any impact on what this team does on the court. It does not.

I, for one, prefer to like the players on the team I root for, and Anthony's hypocrisy is not exactly endearing to me. Everything he's done so far in terms of the original trade and this contract has been for him, and him alone.

Many folks on UK make a big deal about how "he should get as much as he can," or "how can he leave $30M on the table?" Fine, but something is really wrong with people if they don't have a reaction when Anthony, probably looking for some kind of love after seeing the general reaction to his fleecing of the Knicks, comes out and says its not the money, but winning, after getting $124M from the Knicks, and spurning less from a team with a much better chance of gaining a title.

Some things for you to think about:

What will you write if Anthony doesn't completely buy into the theoretical unselfishness of the Triangle and we don't even make it to the EC finals during his contract?

What will you write if the Knicks are only OK, and Anthony leaves after 4 years to play for less with Durant on OKC of James on the Cavs?

What will you write if we reach the EC finals in year 4 and he opts out with the intention asking for a 2yr/$65M contract, benefitting from the new cap numbers?

Will you have a different view of what he's been saying and the contract?

Just wondering.

nixluva wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

dk7th wrote:his TS% in the regular season is 54.7% which is unacceptable if you are touted as an elite scorer
his TS% for the playoffs sink to 51.3% which is unacceptable no matter how you slice it

"but he has improved as a knick!"

no he hasn't, not in the two FULL seasons where he played AND made the playoffs:

2012 he went from 52.5 in the regular season down to 48.9-- this is a 3.6% falloff and spells failure
2013 he went from 56.0 in the regular season down to 49.7-- this is just a straight up abomination

"he didn't have enough help and his coach sucked"

it's never melo's fault.

And the sad part is they will still be saying he doesn't have the players because he took damn near max money. Won't have high draft picks either

That's not true. The sad part is that there is 35 million committed this year to two guys that can't play and that puts the Knicks well over the cap. That changes next year.

I contend that even STAT and Bargs can be positive contributors this last contract year under LEGIT LEADERSHIP. Phil and Fish have a better plan for this team and I think they can get more out of this teams players. If this team is in the playoffs and playing better BB that's really all that matters. I want to see Melo playing team oriented ball.

The Triangle doesn't even demand anything different from Melo because even if he plays exactly the same the REST of the team will be playing in the Triangle and running the offense as intended. That will help Melo by default. This is about DFish coaching and Phil building the roster to have balance and potency. Melo just helps to make it all more impactful. I think we'll see more of "Olympic Melo" in this offense. The plays lead to more scoring in the flow. Woody's offense did not and MDA's offense was too PG driven for Melo. This offense is NOT PG driven like MDA's and it's not stagnant like Woody's. This is why I have a very good feeling for this team's chances this season.

Exactly man, can the MELO HATE just stop, Woodson's lack of system/plays/philosophy was HORRIBLE
He enabled CA and JR Smith's bad habits, on top of not properly utilizing his rotations/talent/players
How much of it was Woodson, how much was it of CA demanding to have the ball in his hands??? We probably will never know....
Outside of CA and JR Smith, everyone else wanted change but it gave those guys the opportunity to put up big numbers that didn't translate to W's

In the end, he stopped preaching what got him the success to begin with, "ACCOUNTABILITY" and "DEFENSE" (his philosophy wasn't working from day 1 and he was too stubborn to admit it)
Did Woodson just actual stop or did he simply lose control of his players as they do what they want to do in the end...

We are in a whole new ERA, since day 1, Phil Jackson and Derek Fisher has made it clear that the system is the #1 priority, making everyone an option, making everyone move with and without the ball, and creating plays for each other/making each other better, MOST IMPORTANTLY as a TEAM A WHOLE

It is up to CA to BUY IN for this system to work, in addition to the team to produce when given the chance for open shots
Using POST OPTIONS, 3pt shooters, good spacing, player movement with ball movement, CONSISTENCY to find the high % shot, and initiating our OFFENSE through the POST

CA is locked up for 5 years, he no longer needs to try to put BIG numbers in order to justify his next contract as a distraction
With Dolan out of the picture, Phil Jackson/Derek Fisher are here to implement a philosophy in order to keep role players effective and focused, consistently looking for OPEN shots, and no longer playing ISO BASKETBALL

It is a new era, new system,
Give CA, THE NEW YORK KNICK's, Phil Jackson/Derek Fisher, in addition to the roster of
CA/JR Smith/STAT/AB

also the development, of some of our younger players and 2nd round picks

Iman Shumpert/Tim Hardaway JR/ Dalembert/ Cole Aldrich/Jeremy Tyler/Jason Smith, possibly Early/Thianissis *if signed, they would probably be focused on the development side*
Even as 2 2nd round picks, both Early and Thiannis are very good steals/picks
Would have been nice if we picked up Corey Jefferson instead of Lous Labayrie
Though there are still much talent left undrafted and as UFA's

lead by PG's
Calderon *who could be playing some SG as well*
Larkin
Pablo

AT Center
===============
Backysksi he was the NCAA leading shot blocker, I am surprised no one has given him a shot with his maturity/ability to defend/rebound, and at the CHEAP, it probably will need 1-2 seasons at best to be get stronger in order to play in the NBA but he has great mobility and timing in order to block shots/alther shots and help teams DEFENSE

PG with ability to play SG
================================
DeAndre Kane/Kendall Williams, both are great leaders, PG's, distributors/initiate and create on OFFENSE, and have the size to defend the PG/SG position like Damion Lillard does

SG/PG, Combo guards
============================
Deonte Burton/ Sean Kilpatrick *also has the ability to defend so kind of comparable to a poor mans Jrue Holiday

other positions, from mainly G/F to PF
================================================

James Macadoo *comparable to Jared Jeffries *the productive season as a Knicks (1-2)* but much more talented*

CJ FLAIR *Josh Howard comparisons*

Khem Birch

a poor man's Wilson Chandler

There are way more other players as well, with some players in the D league and Summer League roster....

I hope we are able provide consistency and stick it out, through the good times and bad times as a team, as this year is a learning year for Fisher/players/rookies and even Phil Jackson to evaluate players and serving in his role

Though not impossible, breaking bad habits that Woodson enabled are going to be tough with JR Smith/CA, and the standing around from the role players

Been a fan for 20yrs. The last 15yrs have been filled with nothing but stress and heartache from this team I once loved. They've been a burden for far too long. If not for Phil Id be done already. Kinda wish Phil never took the job so once we maxed out Melo I could peace out

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WaltLongmire wrote:

nixluva wrote:

dk7th wrote:

nixluva wrote:All that matters is how Melo and the team performs from here on. It's a new day, new leadership and new culture!!! I could care less what Melo says in relation to his contract. I care how he feels about the team, Coach and GM. We need to see how this all comes together. I don't see Melo not buying in to the new culture Fish and Phil are creating here. He has no reason to resist since this system is going to be based on doing things he's already great at doing. It should make him a more efficient player along with a more efficient team. Sure his comments are a bit phony. Lots of players make similar kinds of comments. In the end it's meaningless.

"in the end" how would you know it's meaningless? that's the tail wagging the dog, my friend.

When this team is playing unselfish BB and winning games with the very same Melo as the lead player, there will be silence from his detractors. It's really not about his words. It's gonna be about what this team does on the court. We have IMO the best leaderships we've had in more than a decade. Phil is here and has been putting his people in place. We saw already how that impacted the SL team and all the decisions Phil has made so far have been to the betterment of this team. It's just the beginning but you get the sense that things are changing for the better. Guys are making too much of Melo's comments as if it really has any impact on what this team does on the court. It does not.

I, for one, prefer to like the players on the team I root for, and Anthony's hypocrisy is not exactly endearing to me. Everything he's done so far in terms of the original trade and this contract has been for him, and him alone.

Many folks on UK make a big deal about how "he should get as much as he can," or "how can he leave $30M on the table?" Fine, but something is really wrong with people if they don't have a reaction when Anthony, probably looking for some kind of love after seeing the general reaction to his fleecing of the Knicks, comes out and says its not the money, but winning, after getting $124M from the Knicks, and spurning less from a team with a much better chance of gaining a title.

Some things for you to think about:

What will you write if Anthony doesn't completely buy into the theoretical unselfishness of the Triangle and we don't even make it to the EC finals during his contract?

What will you write if the Knicks are only OK, and Anthony leaves after 4 years to play for less with Durant on OKC of James on the Cavs?

What will you write if we reach the EC finals in year 4 and he opts out with the intention asking for a 2yr/$65M contract, benefitting from the new cap numbers?

Will you have a different view of what he's been saying and the contract?

Just wondering.

No need to wonder. They will write Anthony never had anyone worth passing the ball to. The knicks failed to build the team to support him. The system wasnt suited to his "skills". The coach didn't use him to his strengths. The offense wasn't being run through him. He was getting too much workload. Blah blah..bull****.....

I wad trying to keep a positive frame of mind but having to listen to our read quotes from this selfish jerk saying is all about winning is more than I can handle. Disgusting.

WaltLongmire wrote:

nixluva wrote:

dk7th wrote:

nixluva wrote:All that matters is how Melo and the team performs from here on. It's a new day, new leadership and new culture!!! I could care less what Melo says in relation to his contract. I care how he feels about the team, Coach and GM. We need to see how this all comes together. I don't see Melo not buying in to the new culture Fish and Phil are creating here. He has no reason to resist since this system is going to be based on doing things he's already great at doing. It should make him a more efficient player along with a more efficient team. Sure his comments are a bit phony. Lots of players make similar kinds of comments. In the end it's meaningless.

"in the end" how would you know it's meaningless? that's the tail wagging the dog, my friend.

When this team is playing unselfish BB and winning games with the very same Melo as the lead player, there will be silence from his detractors. It's really not about his words. It's gonna be about what this team does on the court. We have IMO the best leaderships we've had in more than a decade. Phil is here and has been putting his people in place. We saw already how that impacted the SL team and all the decisions Phil has made so far have been to the betterment of this team. It's just the beginning but you get the sense that things are changing for the better. Guys are making too much of Melo's comments as if it really has any impact on what this team does on the court. It does not.

I, for one, prefer to like the players on the team I root for, and Anthony's hypocrisy is not exactly endearing to me. Everything he's done so far in terms of the original trade and this contract has been for him, and him alone.

Many folks on UK make a big deal about how "he should get as much as he can," or "how can he leave $30M on the table?" Fine, but something is really wrong with people if they don't have a reaction when Anthony, probably looking for some kind of love after seeing the general reaction to his fleecing of the Knicks, comes out and says its not the money, but winning, after getting $124M from the Knicks, and spurning less from a team with a much better chance of gaining a title.

Some things for you to think about:

What will you write if Anthony doesn't completely buy into the theoretical unselfishness of the Triangle and we don't even make it to the EC finals during his contract?

What will you write if the Knicks are only OK, and Anthony leaves after 4 years to play for less with Durant on OKC of James on the Cavs?

What will you write if we reach the EC finals in year 4 and he opts out with the intention asking for a 2yr/$65M contract, benefitting from the new cap numbers?

Will you have a different view of what he's been saying and the contract?

Just wondering.

It is a bit of pain but if you are curious you can go back to around the time of the trade to see how posters felt about Melo. Also, the fight with Jeffries etc. some guys that post here make him a polarizing figure. I know for myself it is hard not to defend and advocate for the guy when I watch the games and the read some of the stuff guys are writing about him.

CrushAlot wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

nixluva wrote:

dk7th wrote:

nixluva wrote:All that matters is how Melo and the team performs from here on. It's a new day, new leadership and new culture!!! I could care less what Melo says in relation to his contract. I care how he feels about the team, Coach and GM. We need to see how this all comes together. I don't see Melo not buying in to the new culture Fish and Phil are creating here. He has no reason to resist since this system is going to be based on doing things he's already great at doing. It should make him a more efficient player along with a more efficient team. Sure his comments are a bit phony. Lots of players make similar kinds of comments. In the end it's meaningless.

"in the end" how would you know it's meaningless? that's the tail wagging the dog, my friend.

When this team is playing unselfish BB and winning games with the very same Melo as the lead player, there will be silence from his detractors. It's really not about his words. It's gonna be about what this team does on the court. We have IMO the best leaderships we've had in more than a decade. Phil is here and has been putting his people in place. We saw already how that impacted the SL team and all the decisions Phil has made so far have been to the betterment of this team. It's just the beginning but you get the sense that things are changing for the better. Guys are making too much of Melo's comments as if it really has any impact on what this team does on the court. It does not.

I, for one, prefer to like the players on the team I root for, and Anthony's hypocrisy is not exactly endearing to me. Everything he's done so far in terms of the original trade and this contract has been for him, and him alone.

Many folks on UK make a big deal about how "he should get as much as he can," or "how can he leave $30M on the table?" Fine, but something is really wrong with people if they don't have a reaction when Anthony, probably looking for some kind of love after seeing the general reaction to his fleecing of the Knicks, comes out and says its not the money, but winning, after getting $124M from the Knicks, and spurning less from a team with a much better chance of gaining a title.

Some things for you to think about:

What will you write if Anthony doesn't completely buy into the theoretical unselfishness of the Triangle and we don't even make it to the EC finals during his contract?

What will you write if the Knicks are only OK, and Anthony leaves after 4 years to play for less with Durant on OKC of James on the Cavs?

What will you write if we reach the EC finals in year 4 and he opts out with the intention asking for a 2yr/$65M contract, benefitting from the new cap numbers?

Will you have a different view of what he's been saying and the contract?

Just wondering.

I think many here that seem like they are huge Melo supporters are reacting to the constant trashing of the guy. While the trashing was always present it increased dramatically when some guys got kicked off of realgm and brought their hate to this forum. I think Melo will be criticized if it is justified.

It is a bit of pain but if you are curious you can go back to around the time of the trade to see how posters felt about Melo. Also, the fight with Jeffries etc. some guys that post here make him a polarizing figure. I know for myself it is hard not to defend and advocate for the guy when I watch the games and the read some of the stuff guys are writing about him.

this observation of yours-- perhaps you should consider that the boys in charge over at realgm are actually swine? otherwise i would still be there.

you are, sadly, out of your depth here.

CrushAlot wrote:

dk7th wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

nixluva wrote:

dk7th wrote:

nixluva wrote:All that matters is how Melo and the team performs from here on. It's a new day, new leadership and new culture!!! I could care less what Melo says in relation to his contract. I care how he feels about the team, Coach and GM. We need to see how this all comes together. I don't see Melo not buying in to the new culture Fish and Phil are creating here. He has no reason to resist since this system is going to be based on doing things he's already great at doing. It should make him a more efficient player along with a more efficient team. Sure his comments are a bit phony. Lots of players make similar kinds of comments. In the end it's meaningless.

"in the end" how would you know it's meaningless? that's the tail wagging the dog, my friend.

When this team is playing unselfish BB and winning games with the very same Melo as the lead player, there will be silence from his detractors. It's really not about his words. It's gonna be about what this team does on the court. We have IMO the best leaderships we've had in more than a decade. Phil is here and has been putting his people in place. We saw already how that impacted the SL team and all the decisions Phil has made so far have been to the betterment of this team. It's just the beginning but you get the sense that things are changing for the better. Guys are making too much of Melo's comments as if it really has any impact on what this team does on the court. It does not.

I, for one, prefer to like the players on the team I root for, and Anthony's hypocrisy is not exactly endearing to me. Everything he's done so far in terms of the original trade and this contract has been for him, and him alone.

Many folks on UK make a big deal about how "he should get as much as he can," or "how can he leave $30M on the table?" Fine, but something is really wrong with people if they don't have a reaction when Anthony, probably looking for some kind of love after seeing the general reaction to his fleecing of the Knicks, comes out and says its not the money, but winning, after getting $124M from the Knicks, and spurning less from a team with a much better chance of gaining a title.

Some things for you to think about:

What will you write if Anthony doesn't completely buy into the theoretical unselfishness of the Triangle and we don't even make it to the EC finals during his contract?

What will you write if the Knicks are only OK, and Anthony leaves after 4 years to play for less with Durant on OKC of James on the Cavs?

What will you write if we reach the EC finals in year 4 and he opts out with the intention asking for a 2yr/$65M contract, benefitting from the new cap numbers?

Will you have a different view of what he's been saying and the contract?

Just wondering.

I think many here that seem like they are huge Melo supporters are reacting to the constant trashing of the guy. While the trashing was always present it increased dramatically when some guys got kicked off of realgm and brought their hate to this forum. I think Melo will be criticized if it is justified.

It is a bit of pain but if you are curious you can go back to around the time of the trade to see how posters felt about Melo. Also, the fight with Jeffries etc. some guys that post here make him a polarizing figure. I know for myself it is hard not to defend and advocate for the guy when I watch the games and the read some of the stuff guys are writing about him.

this observation of yours-- perhaps you should consider that the boys in charge over at realgm are actually swine? otherwise i would still be there.

you are, sadly, out of your depth here.

Have you been spoken to here by the mods about negative posts?

i have said nothing negative here. i was kicked off there because one of the filthy internet swine over there received a personal insult and used that as pretext to ban me. pretty sure tkf (true knick fan) has a more fascinating tale to tell.

meanwhile i have no intention of doing something similar with the powers that be here.

anything else, champ?

Today different story these are his words, therefore anyone has the right to critique what was said

What needs to stop//// posters trying to restrain others from giving their current opinion on a matter.

While it may seem repetitive and-or negative, if the conversation reflects current events//// then it's jump ball

I do not want to be sold lies by anyone, from Melo on down to Larkin.

There are too many particulars how negotiations played out to suggest it wasn't about money and more about trust

It may be wise of him to not do interviews at all or to hire a full time publicist to be present at all of them

dk7th wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

dk7th wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

nixluva wrote:

dk7th wrote:

nixluva wrote:All that matters is how Melo and the team performs from here on. It's a new day, new leadership and new culture!!! I could care less what Melo says in relation to his contract. I care how he feels about the team, Coach and GM. We need to see how this all comes together. I don't see Melo not buying in to the new culture Fish and Phil are creating here. He has no reason to resist since this system is going to be based on doing things he's already great at doing. It should make him a more efficient player along with a more efficient team. Sure his comments are a bit phony. Lots of players make similar kinds of comments. In the end it's meaningless.

"in the end" how would you know it's meaningless? that's the tail wagging the dog, my friend.

When this team is playing unselfish BB and winning games with the very same Melo as the lead player, there will be silence from his detractors. It's really not about his words. It's gonna be about what this team does on the court. We have IMO the best leaderships we've had in more than a decade. Phil is here and has been putting his people in place. We saw already how that impacted the SL team and all the decisions Phil has made so far have been to the betterment of this team. It's just the beginning but you get the sense that things are changing for the better. Guys are making too much of Melo's comments as if it really has any impact on what this team does on the court. It does not.

I, for one, prefer to like the players on the team I root for, and Anthony's hypocrisy is not exactly endearing to me. Everything he's done so far in terms of the original trade and this contract has been for him, and him alone.

Many folks on UK make a big deal about how "he should get as much as he can," or "how can he leave $30M on the table?" Fine, but something is really wrong with people if they don't have a reaction when Anthony, probably looking for some kind of love after seeing the general reaction to his fleecing of the Knicks, comes out and says its not the money, but winning, after getting $124M from the Knicks, and spurning less from a team with a much better chance of gaining a title.

Some things for you to think about:

What will you write if Anthony doesn't completely buy into the theoretical unselfishness of the Triangle and we don't even make it to the EC finals during his contract?

What will you write if the Knicks are only OK, and Anthony leaves after 4 years to play for less with Durant on OKC of James on the Cavs?

What will you write if we reach the EC finals in year 4 and he opts out with the intention asking for a 2yr/$65M contract, benefitting from the new cap numbers?

Will you have a different view of what he's been saying and the contract?

Just wondering.

I think many here that seem like they are huge Melo supporters are reacting to the constant trashing of the guy. While the trashing was always present it increased dramatically when some guys got kicked off of realgm and brought their hate to this forum. I think Melo will be criticized if it is justified.

It is a bit of pain but if you are curious you can go back to around the time of the trade to see how posters felt about Melo. Also, the fight with Jeffries etc. some guys that post here make him a polarizing figure. I know for myself it is hard not to defend and advocate for the guy when I watch the games and the read some of the stuff guys are writing about him.

this observation of yours-- perhaps you should consider that the boys in charge over at realgm are actually swine? otherwise i would still be there.

you are, sadly, out of your depth here.

Have you been spoken to here by the mods about negative posts?

i have said nothing negative here. i was kicked off there because one of the filthy internet swine over there received a personal insult and used that as pretext to ban me. pretty sure tkf (true knick fan) has a more fascinating tale to tell.

meanwhile i have no intention of doing something similar with the powers that be here.

anything else, champ?

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6/27/2014 10:22 PM

tkf wrote:

dk7th wrote:

tkf wrote:
Carmelo is no longer a knick, why can't we discuss the lineups without that dude... it is so hard for some of you guys to move forward.. have you even taken a look to see how many threads there are about carmelo?
I think it would be good to have one thread, all things carmelo and call it a day... jeez

honestly have you ever witnessed so much denial? incredible!

it really is...

If you 2 guys have nothing to add to thread, please don't post. Thanks

CrushAlot wrote:

dk7th wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

dk7th wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

nixluva wrote:

dk7th wrote:

nixluva wrote:All that matters is how Melo and the team performs from here on. It's a new day, new leadership and new culture!!! I could care less what Melo says in relation to his contract. I care how he feels about the team, Coach and GM. We need to see how this all comes together. I don't see Melo not buying in to the new culture Fish and Phil are creating here. He has no reason to resist since this system is going to be based on doing things he's already great at doing. It should make him a more efficient player along with a more efficient team. Sure his comments are a bit phony. Lots of players make similar kinds of comments. In the end it's meaningless.

"in the end" how would you know it's meaningless? that's the tail wagging the dog, my friend.

When this team is playing unselfish BB and winning games with the very same Melo as the lead player, there will be silence from his detractors. It's really not about his words. It's gonna be about what this team does on the court. We have IMO the best leaderships we've had in more than a decade. Phil is here and has been putting his people in place. We saw already how that impacted the SL team and all the decisions Phil has made so far have been to the betterment of this team. It's just the beginning but you get the sense that things are changing for the better. Guys are making too much of Melo's comments as if it really has any impact on what this team does on the court. It does not.

I, for one, prefer to like the players on the team I root for, and Anthony's hypocrisy is not exactly endearing to me. Everything he's done so far in terms of the original trade and this contract has been for him, and him alone.

Many folks on UK make a big deal about how "he should get as much as he can," or "how can he leave $30M on the table?" Fine, but something is really wrong with people if they don't have a reaction when Anthony, probably looking for some kind of love after seeing the general reaction to his fleecing of the Knicks, comes out and says its not the money, but winning, after getting $124M from the Knicks, and spurning less from a team with a much better chance of gaining a title.

Some things for you to think about:

What will you write if Anthony doesn't completely buy into the theoretical unselfishness of the Triangle and we don't even make it to the EC finals during his contract?

What will you write if the Knicks are only OK, and Anthony leaves after 4 years to play for less with Durant on OKC of James on the Cavs?

What will you write if we reach the EC finals in year 4 and he opts out with the intention asking for a 2yr/$65M contract, benefitting from the new cap numbers?

Will you have a different view of what he's been saying and the contract?

Just wondering.

I think many here that seem like they are huge Melo supporters are reacting to the constant trashing of the guy. While the trashing was always present it increased dramatically when some guys got kicked off of realgm and brought their hate to this forum. I think Melo will be criticized if it is justified.

It is a bit of pain but if you are curious you can go back to around the time of the trade to see how posters felt about Melo. Also, the fight with Jeffries etc. some guys that post here make him a polarizing figure. I know for myself it is hard not to defend and advocate for the guy when I watch the games and the read some of the stuff guys are writing about him.

this observation of yours-- perhaps you should consider that the boys in charge over at realgm are actually swine? otherwise i would still be there.

you are, sadly, out of your depth here.

Have you been spoken to here by the mods about negative posts?

i have said nothing negative here. i was kicked off there because one of the filthy internet swine over there received a personal insult and used that as pretext to ban me. pretty sure tkf (true knick fan) has a more fascinating tale to tell.

meanwhile i have no intention of doing something similar with the powers that be here.

anything else, champ?

This seems to come up quite a bit no?

martin
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6/27/2014 10:22 PM

tkf wrote:

dk7th wrote:

tkf wrote:
Carmelo is no longer a knick, why can't we discuss the lineups without that dude... it is so hard for some of you guys to move forward.. have you even taken a look to see how many threads there are about carmelo?
I think it would be good to have one thread, all things carmelo and call it a day... jeez

honestly have you ever witnessed so much denial? incredible!

it really is...

If you 2 guys have nothing to add to thread, please don't post. Thanks

no it does not come up quite a bit.

yes i am adding to the thread.

i am noticing several new voices here who are manifesting similar sorts of "displeasure."

if you can't abide that maybe you should migrate over to realgm. plenty of your like-minded over there. tell them dk7th says hi!

dk7th wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

dk7th wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

nixluva wrote:

dk7th wrote:

nixluva wrote:All that matters is how Melo and the team performs from here on. It's a new day, new leadership and new culture!!! I could care less what Melo says in relation to his contract. I care how he feels about the team, Coach and GM. We need to see how this all comes together. I don't see Melo not buying in to the new culture Fish and Phil are creating here. He has no reason to resist since this system is going to be based on doing things he's already great at doing. It should make him a more efficient player along with a more efficient team. Sure his comments are a bit phony. Lots of players make similar kinds of comments. In the end it's meaningless.

"in the end" how would you know it's meaningless? that's the tail wagging the dog, my friend.

When this team is playing unselfish BB and winning games with the very same Melo as the lead player, there will be silence from his detractors. It's really not about his words. It's gonna be about what this team does on the court. We have IMO the best leaderships we've had in more than a decade. Phil is here and has been putting his people in place. We saw already how that impacted the SL team and all the decisions Phil has made so far have been to the betterment of this team. It's just the beginning but you get the sense that things are changing for the better. Guys are making too much of Melo's comments as if it really has any impact on what this team does on the court. It does not.

I, for one, prefer to like the players on the team I root for, and Anthony's hypocrisy is not exactly endearing to me. Everything he's done so far in terms of the original trade and this contract has been for him, and him alone.

Many folks on UK make a big deal about how "he should get as much as he can," or "how can he leave $30M on the table?" Fine, but something is really wrong with people if they don't have a reaction when Anthony, probably looking for some kind of love after seeing the general reaction to his fleecing of the Knicks, comes out and says its not the money, but winning, after getting $124M from the Knicks, and spurning less from a team with a much better chance of gaining a title.

Some things for you to think about:

What will you write if Anthony doesn't completely buy into the theoretical unselfishness of the Triangle and we don't even make it to the EC finals during his contract?

What will you write if the Knicks are only OK, and Anthony leaves after 4 years to play for less with Durant on OKC of James on the Cavs?

What will you write if we reach the EC finals in year 4 and he opts out with the intention asking for a 2yr/$65M contract, benefitting from the new cap numbers?

Will you have a different view of what he's been saying and the contract?

Just wondering.

I think many here that seem like they are huge Melo supporters are reacting to the constant trashing of the guy. While the trashing was always present it increased dramatically when some guys got kicked off of realgm and brought their hate to this forum. I think Melo will be criticized if it is justified.

It is a bit of pain but if you are curious you can go back to around the time of the trade to see how posters felt about Melo. Also, the fight with Jeffries etc. some guys that post here make him a polarizing figure. I know for myself it is hard not to defend and advocate for the guy when I watch the games and the read some of the stuff guys are writing about him.

this observation of yours-- perhaps you should consider that the boys in charge over at realgm are actually swine? otherwise i would still be there.

you are, sadly, out of your depth here.

Have you been spoken to here by the mods about negative posts?

i have said nothing negative here. i was kicked off there because one of the filthy internet swine over there received a personal insult and used that as pretext to ban me. pretty sure tkf (true knick fan) has a more fascinating tale to tell.

meanwhile i have no intention of doing something similar with the powers that be here.

anything else, champ?