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7/9/2014  11:22 PM
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is out!!

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Who are you going to bequeath dkt7f to?

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7/9/2014  11:29 PM
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smackeddog wrote:
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franco12 wrote:I guess there was no room for Melo to join Lebron and ride the coat tails!
i think it mostly just came down to money which isnt surprising for melo

So Lebron is a hero for returning to his home town for the max, but Melo is evil and greedy for returning to his home town for the max. Lebron was evil for leaving the Cavs to 'chase a ring' and Melo is evil for not leaving town to 'chase a ring'. Berger did a great article pointing out how players get blasted no matter what they do.

There is one key difference...Lebron is the best player in the world probably the best since jordan. melo is a great scorer but simply isnt on the same level as lebron is. And this is coming from someone who hates lebron and actually likes melo

There's another key difference. Melo plays for the Knicks. Lebron doesn't. I admired MJ, hated that he stopped us from ever getting a chip, but I rooted for Patrick even when he was taking balloon payments and setting picks 40 feet from the basket.

You're evil and and greedy or your not evil and greedy. Being the best since jordan and winning rings with superstarphuch friends doesn't gloss that over.

I will root for Melo while he wears the uni. I truly don't GAF what he makes, and don't understand how folks think they should decide what he should make. Phil offered the max. Posturing or not. I'm just common folk and don't pretend to be a GM.

Just win baby.

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7/10/2014  12:07 AM
meloshouldgo wrote:Oh god. 5 more years of mediocrity signed sealed and delivered.

Im not thrilled either, We are going to have to trust that Phil Jackson will be able to put low cost pieces that fit the system optimally around Melo. He has very litte wiggle room as 40% of are cap space will tied into 1 player. If Melo doesnt continue his usual production or he gives out 1 bad contract winning a title will be impossible.I pray that he continues to grab youth and draft picks whenever possible as hitting on cheap rotation players and at least 1 difference making homegrown player is absolutely vital for this team to succeed.

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7/10/2014  6:40 AM
Jmpasq wrote:
meloshouldgo wrote:Oh god. 5 more years of mediocrity signed sealed and delivered.

Im not thrilled either, We are going to have to trust that Phil Jackson will be able to put low cost pieces that fit the system optimally around Melo. He has very litte wiggle room as 40% of are cap space will tied into 1 player. If Melo doesnt continue his usual production or he gives out 1 bad contract winning a title will be impossible.I pray that he continues to grab youth and draft picks whenever possible as hitting on cheap rotation players and at least 1 difference making homegrown player is absolutely vital for this team to succeed.

Assuming its 5/129, I am really concerned about years 3-5 of this deal. I think Melo will soon prove to be our next albatross. I guess the Knicks will never change. When in a hole keep digging.

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7/10/2014  7:24 AM
Jmpasq wrote:
meloshouldgo wrote:Oh god. 5 more years of mediocrity signed sealed and delivered.

Im not thrilled either, We are going to have to trust that Phil Jackson will be able to put low cost pieces that fit the system optimally around Melo. He has very litte wiggle room as 40% of are cap space will tied into 1 player. If Melo doesnt continue his usual production or he gives out 1 bad contract winning a title will be impossible.I pray that he continues to grab youth and draft picks whenever possible as hitting on cheap rotation players and at least 1 difference making homegrown player is absolutely vital for this team to succeed.

I'm not thrilled about maxing out a 30 year old either however the salary is _not_ 40% of the cap. The cap is $63 million and the first year of the deal is around $25. That's a little over a third of the cap.

Let's all hope that the cap goes up a whole lot the next couple years!

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7/10/2014  7:26 AM
meloshouldgo wrote:
Jmpasq wrote:
meloshouldgo wrote:Oh god. 5 more years of mediocrity signed sealed and delivered.

Im not thrilled either, We are going to have to trust that Phil Jackson will be able to put low cost pieces that fit the system optimally around Melo. He has very litte wiggle room as 40% of are cap space will tied into 1 player. If Melo doesnt continue his usual production or he gives out 1 bad contract winning a title will be impossible.I pray that he continues to grab youth and draft picks whenever possible as hitting on cheap rotation players and at least 1 difference making homegrown player is absolutely vital for this team to succeed.

Assuming its 5/129, I am really concerned about years 3-5 of this deal. I think Melo will soon prove to be our next albatross. I guess the Knicks will never change. When in a hole keep digging.

We are all concerned. Phil is concerned, and most homers are concerned. His kid is concerned.
But.....Melo has proven up until now to work on his body (no, not ripped like Amare) and really has been very durable. If the triangle is to make it easier for him, and as the team around him improves he might not be the elite league leading scorer but a valuable part of the team. If he can stay healthy, he can be moved like KG and Pierce in those last two year to a team wanting to get over the top.

Amare came with very apparent health advisory.

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7/10/2014  8:45 AM
H1AND1 wrote:
Jmpasq wrote:
meloshouldgo wrote:Oh god. 5 more years of mediocrity signed sealed and delivered.

Im not thrilled either, We are going to have to trust that Phil Jackson will be able to put low cost pieces that fit the system optimally around Melo. He has very litte wiggle room as 40% of are cap space will tied into 1 player. If Melo doesnt continue his usual production or he gives out 1 bad contract winning a title will be impossible.I pray that he continues to grab youth and draft picks whenever possible as hitting on cheap rotation players and at least 1 difference making homegrown player is absolutely vital for this team to succeed.

I'm not thrilled about maxing out a 30 year old either however the salary is _not_ 40% of the cap. The cap is $63 million and the first year of the deal is around $25. That's a little over a third of the cap.

Let's all hope that the cap goes up a whole lot the next couple years!


25/63 = .397
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7/10/2014  9:11 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:
H1AND1 wrote:
Jmpasq wrote:
meloshouldgo wrote:Oh god. 5 more years of mediocrity signed sealed and delivered.

Im not thrilled either, We are going to have to trust that Phil Jackson will be able to put low cost pieces that fit the system optimally around Melo. He has very litte wiggle room as 40% of are cap space will tied into 1 player. If Melo doesnt continue his usual production or he gives out 1 bad contract winning a title will be impossible.I pray that he continues to grab youth and draft picks whenever possible as hitting on cheap rotation players and at least 1 difference making homegrown player is absolutely vital for this team to succeed.

I'm not thrilled about maxing out a 30 year old either however the salary is _not_ 40% of the cap. The cap is $63 million and the first year of the deal is around $25. That's a little over a third of the cap.

Let's all hope that the cap goes up a whole lot the next couple years!


25/63 = .397

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7/10/2014  9:13 AM    LAST EDITED: 7/10/2014  9:29 AM
H1AND1 wrote:
Jmpasq wrote:
meloshouldgo wrote:Oh god. 5 more years of mediocrity signed sealed and delivered.

Im not thrilled either, We are going to have to trust that Phil Jackson will be able to put low cost pieces that fit the system optimally around Melo. He has very litte wiggle room as 40% of are cap space will tied into 1 player. If Melo doesnt continue his usual production or he gives out 1 bad contract winning a title will be impossible.I pray that he continues to grab youth and draft picks whenever possible as hitting on cheap rotation players and at least 1 difference making homegrown player is absolutely vital for this team to succeed.

I'm not thrilled about maxing out a 30 year old either however the salary is _not_ 40% of the cap. The cap is $63 million and the first year of the deal is around $25. That's a little over a third of the cap.

Let's all hope that the cap goes up a whole lot the next couple years!


a 1/3 is 21 million , if its 25 it is in fact 39.6% of the cap. I know it seems like im hating on the guy but the new CBA makes building a team like this very difficult. When u consider the Spurs pay Duncan and Parker roughly the same as what Melo will be making it shows how difficult of a task Jackson will have trying to construct a team that can compete for a title. The Knicks basically need to make up an all NBA level player at under 5 million dollars. He has to continue to get draft picks and take chances on young players teams want to jettison and pray. I would look at Dion Waiters who I believe would fit very well into the triangle.
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7/10/2014  9:17 AM
Jmpasq wrote:
H1AND1 wrote:
Jmpasq wrote:
meloshouldgo wrote:Oh god. 5 more years of mediocrity signed sealed and delivered.

Im not thrilled either, We are going to have to trust that Phil Jackson will be able to put low cost pieces that fit the system optimally around Melo. He has very litte wiggle room as 40% of are cap space will tied into 1 player. If Melo doesnt continue his usual production or he gives out 1 bad contract winning a title will be impossible.I pray that he continues to grab youth and draft picks whenever possible as hitting on cheap rotation players and at least 1 difference making homegrown player is absolutely vital for this team to succeed.

I'm not thrilled about maxing out a 30 year old either however the salary is _not_ 40% of the cap. The cap is $63 million and the first year of the deal is around $25. That's a little over a third of the cap.

Let's all hope that the cap goes up a whole lot the next couple years!


a 1/3 is 21 million , if its 25 it is in fact 39.6% of the cap
can you guys post his salary #s? I cant seem to find what he signed for anywhere....
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7/10/2014  9:59 AM
Allanfan20 wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
H1AND1 wrote:
Jmpasq wrote:
meloshouldgo wrote:Oh god. 5 more years of mediocrity signed sealed and delivered.

Im not thrilled either, We are going to have to trust that Phil Jackson will be able to put low cost pieces that fit the system optimally around Melo. He has very litte wiggle room as 40% of are cap space will tied into 1 player. If Melo doesnt continue his usual production or he gives out 1 bad contract winning a title will be impossible.I pray that he continues to grab youth and draft picks whenever possible as hitting on cheap rotation players and at least 1 difference making homegrown player is absolutely vital for this team to succeed.

I'm not thrilled about maxing out a 30 year old either however the salary is _not_ 40% of the cap. The cap is $63 million and the first year of the deal is around $25. That's a little over a third of the cap.

Let's all hope that the cap goes up a whole lot the next couple years!


25/63 = .397

Pwned!

Well technically it's not .400!

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7/10/2014  10:09 AM
fishmike wrote:
Jmpasq wrote:
H1AND1 wrote:
Jmpasq wrote:
meloshouldgo wrote:Oh god. 5 more years of mediocrity signed sealed and delivered.

Im not thrilled either, We are going to have to trust that Phil Jackson will be able to put low cost pieces that fit the system optimally around Melo. He has very litte wiggle room as 40% of are cap space will tied into 1 player. If Melo doesnt continue his usual production or he gives out 1 bad contract winning a title will be impossible.I pray that he continues to grab youth and draft picks whenever possible as hitting on cheap rotation players and at least 1 difference making homegrown player is absolutely vital for this team to succeed.

I'm not thrilled about maxing out a 30 year old either however the salary is _not_ 40% of the cap. The cap is $63 million and the first year of the deal is around $25. That's a little over a third of the cap.

Let's all hope that the cap goes up a whole lot the next couple years!


a 1/3 is 21 million , if its 25 it is in fact 39.6% of the cap
can you guys post his salary #s? I cant seem to find what he signed for anywhere....

He hasn't even made a decision. People here are basing this off of tweets from people on the outside barely even looking in.

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7/10/2014  10:30 AM
Allanfan20 wrote:
fishmike wrote:
Jmpasq wrote:
H1AND1 wrote:
Jmpasq wrote:
meloshouldgo wrote:Oh god. 5 more years of mediocrity signed sealed and delivered.

Im not thrilled either, We are going to have to trust that Phil Jackson will be able to put low cost pieces that fit the system optimally around Melo. He has very litte wiggle room as 40% of are cap space will tied into 1 player. If Melo doesnt continue his usual production or he gives out 1 bad contract winning a title will be impossible.I pray that he continues to grab youth and draft picks whenever possible as hitting on cheap rotation players and at least 1 difference making homegrown player is absolutely vital for this team to succeed.

I'm not thrilled about maxing out a 30 year old either however the salary is _not_ 40% of the cap. The cap is $63 million and the first year of the deal is around $25. That's a little over a third of the cap.

Let's all hope that the cap goes up a whole lot the next couple years!


a 1/3 is 21 million , if its 25 it is in fact 39.6% of the cap
can you guys post his salary #s? I cant seem to find what he signed for anywhere....

He hasn't even made a decision. People here are basing this off of tweets from people on the outside barely even looking in.

Yup, lets cross that bridge when we get to it.

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7/10/2014  10:34 AM
GustavBahler wrote:
Allanfan20 wrote:
fishmike wrote:
Jmpasq wrote:
H1AND1 wrote:
Jmpasq wrote:
meloshouldgo wrote:Oh god. 5 more years of mediocrity signed sealed and delivered.

Im not thrilled either, We are going to have to trust that Phil Jackson will be able to put low cost pieces that fit the system optimally around Melo. He has very litte wiggle room as 40% of are cap space will tied into 1 player. If Melo doesnt continue his usual production or he gives out 1 bad contract winning a title will be impossible.I pray that he continues to grab youth and draft picks whenever possible as hitting on cheap rotation players and at least 1 difference making homegrown player is absolutely vital for this team to succeed.

I'm not thrilled about maxing out a 30 year old either however the salary is _not_ 40% of the cap. The cap is $63 million and the first year of the deal is around $25. That's a little over a third of the cap.

Let's all hope that the cap goes up a whole lot the next couple years!


a 1/3 is 21 million , if its 25 it is in fact 39.6% of the cap
can you guys post his salary #s? I cant seem to find what he signed for anywhere....

He hasn't even made a decision. People here are basing this off of tweets from people on the outside barely even looking in.

Yup, lets cross that bridge when we get to it.

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7/10/2014  10:46 AM
Allanfan20 wrote:
fishmike wrote:
Jmpasq wrote:
H1AND1 wrote:
Jmpasq wrote:
meloshouldgo wrote:Oh god. 5 more years of mediocrity signed sealed and delivered.

Im not thrilled either, We are going to have to trust that Phil Jackson will be able to put low cost pieces that fit the system optimally around Melo. He has very litte wiggle room as 40% of are cap space will tied into 1 player. If Melo doesnt continue his usual production or he gives out 1 bad contract winning a title will be impossible.I pray that he continues to grab youth and draft picks whenever possible as hitting on cheap rotation players and at least 1 difference making homegrown player is absolutely vital for this team to succeed.

I'm not thrilled about maxing out a 30 year old either however the salary is _not_ 40% of the cap. The cap is $63 million and the first year of the deal is around $25. That's a little over a third of the cap.

Let's all hope that the cap goes up a whole lot the next couple years!


a 1/3 is 21 million , if its 25 it is in fact 39.6% of the cap
can you guys post his salary #s? I cant seem to find what he signed for anywhere....

He hasn't even made a decision. People here are basing this off of tweets from people on the outside barely even looking in.

yea this is stupid. we shouldnt be discussing his contract until he signs

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7/10/2014  11:48 AM
At some point after Isola came out saying that Anthony would stay, SAS got a call from a source telling him that nothing was finalized, and that Chicago was again in the mix.

Question- With many thinking that James will be going to the Cavs, is there any reason to believe that Anthony might look at this and believe that his best chance for a title would be the Bulls, even if he had to take less $$?

Just wondering why somebody would talk to SAS about Anthony to Chicago being a possibility shortly after the James to Cleveland scenario became more probable. Maybe Anthony thinks that if the Cavs get James Chicago has the best chance to get out of the East while Cleveland is still taking shape as a team.

Just trying to look at the sequence of the reports that have been coming out and what it means.

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WaltLongmire wrote:At some point after Isola came out saying that Anthony would stay, SAS got a call from a source telling him that nothing was finalized, and that Chicago was again in the mix.

Question- With many thinking that James will be going to the Cavs, is there any reason to believe that Anthony might look at this and believe that his best chance for a title would be the Bulls, even if he had to take less $$?

Just wondering why somebody would talk to SAS about Anthony to Chicago being a possibility shortly after the James to Cleveland scenario became more probable. Maybe Anthony thinks that if the Cavs get James Chicago has the best chance to get out of the East while Cleveland is still taking shape as a team.

Just trying to look at the sequence of the reports that have been coming out and what it means.

If the heat break up and Melo goes to Chicago I think they definitely are the favorites to come out of the east. Cowherd speculating that LeBron might sign a one year deal in Miami, others are saying two years with an opt out after one. I don't know that anything happens until LeBron signs. If LeBron can opt out after one year, my guess is Melo structures his contract to accommodate the possibility of signing LeBron in 2015.
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7/10/2014  1:56 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/10/2014  1:57 PM
WaltLongmire wrote:At some point after Isola came out saying that Anthony would stay, SAS got a call from a source telling him that nothing was finalized, and that Chicago was again in the mix.

Question- With many thinking that James will be going to the Cavs, is there any reason to believe that Anthony might look at this and believe that his best chance for a title would be the Bulls, even if he had to take less $$?

Just wondering why somebody would talk to SAS about Anthony to Chicago being a possibility shortly after the James to Cleveland scenario became more probable. Maybe Anthony thinks that if the Cavs get James Chicago has the best chance to get out of the East while Cleveland is still taking shape as a team.

Just trying to look at the sequence of the reports that have been coming out and what it means.

Until Chicago can offer Melo a max deal he isnt going anywhere. No way in hell Melo leaves 55 million on the table it goes against everything he has been his entire career

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7/10/2014  2:04 PM
Jmpasq wrote:
WaltLongmire wrote:At some point after Isola came out saying that Anthony would stay, SAS got a call from a source telling him that nothing was finalized, and that Chicago was again in the mix.

Question- With many thinking that James will be going to the Cavs, is there any reason to believe that Anthony might look at this and believe that his best chance for a title would be the Bulls, even if he had to take less $$?

Just wondering why somebody would talk to SAS about Anthony to Chicago being a possibility shortly after the James to Cleveland scenario became more probable. Maybe Anthony thinks that if the Cavs get James Chicago has the best chance to get out of the East while Cleveland is still taking shape as a team.

Just trying to look at the sequence of the reports that have been coming out and what it means.

Until Chicago can offer Melo a max deal he isnt going anywhere. No way in hell Melo leaves 55 million on the table it goes against everything he has been his entire career

A max deal, or a sweet sign and trade deal for us. If Melo wants Chicago, I'm positive Phil would accommodate him for the right price.

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Andrew wrote:
Jmpasq wrote:
WaltLongmire wrote:At some point after Isola came out saying that Anthony would stay, SAS got a call from a source telling him that nothing was finalized, and that Chicago was again in the mix.

Question- With many thinking that James will be going to the Cavs, is there any reason to believe that Anthony might look at this and believe that his best chance for a title would be the Bulls, even if he had to take less $$?

Just wondering why somebody would talk to SAS about Anthony to Chicago being a possibility shortly after the James to Cleveland scenario became more probable. Maybe Anthony thinks that if the Cavs get James Chicago has the best chance to get out of the East while Cleveland is still taking shape as a team.

Just trying to look at the sequence of the reports that have been coming out and what it means.

Until Chicago can offer Melo a max deal he isnt going anywhere. No way in hell Melo leaves 55 million on the table it goes against everything he has been his entire career

A max deal, or a sweet sign and trade deal for us. If Melo wants Chicago, I'm positive Phil would accommodate him for the right price.

what does chicago have anymore Id take their euro, they wasted their 2 firsts on Doug Mcdermott

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