SupremeCommander wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:This was my guess what might happen. Stat traded not for a star but for good role player(s).

http://theknickswall.com/2014/07/07/76ers-interested-stoudemire/

According to a report on ESPN Radio, the New York Knicks and Philadelphia 76ers have had discussions about sending Amare Stoudemire to Philadelphia. Stoudemire has one-year and $23 million deal remaining on his deal and is a desirable player for a team like the 76ers because, quite honestly, he will help them tank (and cut costs next year). Of course, while Stoudemire will help the 76ers lose and save some money next season, he’s not the most attractive player in the league. As such, the Knicks are willing to package Iman Shumpert with Stoudemire to entice the 76ers even more.

While there haven’t been any reports of a possible player for the 76ers to send back, I’d hope that the Knicks at least inquire about Thad Young, a young player with two-years, roughly $19.5 million left on his deal. He’s an asset that would help the Knicks win now, but also add to the core moving forward. Young is also the 76ers’ most expensive player, and while the 76ers don’t need to send back comparable salaries, due to the fact they’re way below the salary cap, sending Thad to New York would open about $9 million in cap room for them starting next season.

this makes a lot of sense

I am torn on this trade, i'm a big amare fan, however, Thad Young is a real life upgrade to win now.
huge amare fan, would love to see what he can give us next year and come off the books,
BUT Thad Young gives us 18 points, 6 rebounds (would love more here) and a half block
vs Amare 10 points, 5 boards and half a block

but younger, half the price and maybe zen knows what's going on that we don't? But i'm definitely intrigued.

babyKnicks wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:This was my guess what might happen. Stat traded not for a star but for good role player(s).

http://theknickswall.com/2014/07/07/76ers-interested-stoudemire/

According to a report on ESPN Radio, the New York Knicks and Philadelphia 76ers have had discussions about sending Amare Stoudemire to Philadelphia. Stoudemire has one-year and $23 million deal remaining on his deal and is a desirable player for a team like the 76ers because, quite honestly, he will help them tank (and cut costs next year). Of course, while Stoudemire will help the 76ers lose and save some money next season, he’s not the most attractive player in the league. As such, the Knicks are willing to package Iman Shumpert with Stoudemire to entice the 76ers even more.

While there haven’t been any reports of a possible player for the 76ers to send back, I’d hope that the Knicks at least inquire about Thad Young, a young player with two-years, roughly $19.5 million left on his deal. He’s an asset that would help the Knicks win now, but also add to the core moving forward. Young is also the 76ers’ most expensive player, and while the 76ers don’t need to send back comparable salaries, due to the fact they’re way below the salary cap, sending Thad to New York would open about $9 million in cap room for them starting next season.

this makes a lot of sense

I am torn on this trade, i'm a big amare fan, however, Thad Young is a real life upgrade to win now.
huge amare fan, would love to see what he can give us next year and come off the books,
BUT Thad Young gives us 18 points, 6 rebounds (would love more here) and a half block
vs Amare 10 points, 5 boards and half a block

but younger, half the price and maybe zen knows what's going on that we don't? But i'm definitely intrigued.

yellowboy90 wrote:Thaddeaus Young is a little overrated for a defensive guy who doesn't really rebound, blk, or get that many stls. He also had a bad year last year so his value shouldn't be that high. If afflalo pulled in a marginal player and a 2nd rder maybe Young pulls less. IDK.

Bonn1997 wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:Thaddeaus Young is a little overrated for a defensive guy who doesn't really rebound, blk, or get that many stls. He also had a bad year last year so his value shouldn't be that high. If afflalo pulled in a marginal player and a 2nd rder maybe Young pulls less. IDK.

I don't like using up cap space to get such limited players. I wasn't crazy about adding $13 mil in the Calderon deal but if it's going to be part of a pattern, that's worrisome. If we're using up valuable cap space, it should be for underpaid not overpaid players. Otherwise, I'd rather just pick our own FAs in 2015 and beyond.

True but the thing is that Young will probably opt out of his deal at the end of the year and even if he doesn't as a role player he would be okay to have on the bench for one more year. His little money should not stop anything in 2015.

In my opinion low level risk(>$10m) on short contracts are worth the risk.

yellowboy90 wrote:Thaddeaus Young is a little overrated for a defensive guy who doesn't really rebound, blk, or get that many stls. He also had a bad year last year so his value shouldn't be that high. If afflalo pulled in a marginal player and a 2nd rder maybe Young pulls less. IDK.

His WS48 has been extremely good the last few years (not counting last season since you can't have a good WS if your team does not win any games)

Bonn1997 wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:Thaddeaus Young is a little overrated for a defensive guy who doesn't really rebound, blk, or get that many stls. He also had a bad year last year so his value shouldn't be that high. If afflalo pulled in a marginal player and a 2nd rder maybe Young pulls less. IDK.

I don't like using up cap space to get such limited players. I wasn't crazy about adding $13 mil in the Calderon deal but if it's going to be part of a pattern, that's worrisome. If we're using up valuable cap space, it should be for underpaid not overpaid players. Otherwise, I'd rather just pick our own FAs in 2015 and beyond.

True but the thing is that Young will probably opt out of his deal at the end of the year and even if he doesn't as a role player he would be okay to have on the bench for one more year. His little money should not stop anything in 2015.

You start adding lots of guys with "little" $7 to 10 mil salaries and guess what happens.
Calderon plus Young already occupy about the same cap space as a lower-tier max contract.

You turn into the nuggets? I shouldn't keep that but I will. TKF/Dk activate.

yellowboy90 wrote:
Highly doubtful deal.

I could see the possibility of a 3-team deal

NY- Young, LIn, Richardson

Philly- STAT, Shump, NY sweeteners, and Houston Sweeteners

Houston- Cap space/TPE

Philly is reportedly willing to trade for Lin for the pieces around Lin because they do not want to pay the $15M. By Including LIn/Richardson/Young the philly are actually taking more money cap wise($2M) but are saving around $7M in real money. I would have thought it would take a 1st rounder to get Young but his bad play and given that Afflalo only returned a 2nd rd pick and low level player makes me think Shump and a future may work because of the money the knicks saves them.

If it goes like this the knicks actually would get another $2M TPE.

I like the structure of the deal and could see a team like the Sixers having interest in Clint Capela, who would be a nice little project that they could stash overseas in the interim. I'm not too sure if the Rockets would give up much more than that though, unless they had a verbal confirmation from Chris Bosh.

Rookie wrote:If we take Young and Richardson for Stat and Shump salary difference is around 7M. That should put us right around the projected tax line.

I think we'd be well below it. Remember that the cap went up by $5 million, which makes it likely that the luxury tax went up by this factor as well. If so, the new luxury tax threshold would be at about $77 million, not $72 mil.

Rookie wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

Rookie wrote:If we take Young and Richardson for Stat and Shump salary difference is around 7M. That should put us right around the projected tax line.

I think we'd be well below it. Remember that the cap went up by $5 million, which makes it likely that the luxury tax went up by this factor as well. If so, the new luxury tax threshold would be at about $77 million, not $72 mil.

we are at approx 38M w/o Odom, Brown, Tyler, Stat & Shump. Add Young/Richardson's 15M plus Melo.

It depends on how much Melo takes but if he takes the max, you'd be right. Based on Hoopshype, I counted the projected payroll to be $76 million.

NardDogNation wrote:Do we still have $1.2 million to include in trades? I know we spent about $1.8 million on the Frenchmen.