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holfresh wrote:

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BRIGGS wrote:

holfresh wrote:We will be a bad team for a long time...Many bad teams have picks and are able to sign FA..What makes us different??..Because we paid a GM 60 mil and a rookie Head Coach 25 mil...KLove is about to be traded to GS..GS don't want to give up Clay Thomspon or it's a done deal..Who else coming here to save the day???

The second Dolan over committed resources to this trade we were doomed. I think he also made a BIG mistake not taking Lowry for Felton and a 2018 pick. This is all on Dolan head to toe.

If we were to look at the facts as presented...Melo came here to play with Amare..If Amare was healthy and we had a decent coach not named MDA, we had a shot...We went through all this already...Was Gallo and Mozgov all that good, really??..We came to the conclusion that Wilson could not be resigned if we signed Melo as a free agent...JR was as productive as Gallo the last two years, no??Look at their stats...So are we really talking Mozgov doomed us, really??? We were poorly constructed under a poor coach and GM...We were doomed the moment we sign MDA who need Amare...

If Melo leaves then there is no way the trade can be anything but bad. We gave up assets we should not have had to give up. Those assets could have helped build around Melo. The amount of mistakes the Knicks have made were also staggering. I knew what Woody was about after watching him coach in his first playoffs with us. How did those rich people not see the Woody's limitations in coaching? Who the hell thought the Bargs trade was a good one? Who the heck signs Amare to that kind of deal? Who opts in Billups only to cut him a few weeks later with the Amnesty! This team is never anything but frustrating.

Please specify what assets u are referring to...People use this term to hide the facts when presenting their slanted arguments...So Gallo and Melo could have overcame Amare's knee problems??..If we re-uped Gallo at 12 mil per then we have no Tyson...Who is defending the paint on MDA's team???..Are u saying that Gallo would have given us better production than JR?? The stats says otherwise...

Assets are: Not going to count Wilson since he would be gone anyway.
Gallo
Kostas Papanikolaou : Used to reaquire Felton
Giorgos Printezis : Used to reaquire Felton
2016 Second Round Draft Pick : used to require Felton
Cash: Used to require Felton(Could no longer use that money to buy a draft pick in following draft due to new CBA)
Mozgov: With Mozgov we don't make that Camby trade and lose more assets.
2014 First Round Draft Pick
2 Second Round Draft Picks
Right to Swap 2016 First Round Draft Pick
Amnesty: If we don't have Billups we would still have the Amnesty to use on Amare.

If you think those assets are insignificant then we will never agree on that issue. We could have had melo and all of these assets.

I don't think you count the assets to reacquire Felton. That was a different administration. I don't think Walsh chases a center if he is trying to make things work with D'Antoni. He picked up Billups option and was saying that Chauncey was a part of a really good nucleus.

You do count Felton because if we never traded him in the Melo trade we would not have had to reaquire him. If Melo comes here as a free agent then we keep those assets to use to build the roster instead of using it to get back what we already had and gave away.

Ujiri wasn't going to let Melo walk and there were other suitors waiting to get him. Also, with the owners telling the players there would be a lockout and free agency was going to be changed Melo was getting a new deal. Expecting Ujiri and the Nuggets to get nothing for Melo so that he can leave and go where he wants wasn't going to happen. Expecting Melo to lose 20 mil or more so that he could wait and sign with the Knicks wasn't going to happen.

Ujiri could have sent him to whatever team he wanted to. Melo could have still signed with us as a FA. The difference is that Lebron, Bosh and Wade new that to have a good team you wiould have to sacrifice some money. They were willing to do that and Melo was not. The spurs big 3 all took less money for the same reason. Melo wants to have his cake and eat it to. He wants the good team without making a sacrifice for it. I am sorry but the world does not work that way. The Heat and the Spurs are living proof of this fact.

Melo would have lost 20 million if he did that. Also he wanted a new deal under the old cba. The owners were making a lot of noise about how things were going to change after the big three clouded. It's a nice thought where everyone sacrifices except the Knicks and the knicks come out on top but there was no way that was happening.

no use talking about this azzholle anymore he is GONE