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anrst
Posts: 22707 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 12/7/2005 Member: #1054 USA |
5/25/2014 4:06 PM
and JR has zero on his mind
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gunsnewing
Posts: 55076 Alba Posts: 5 Joined: 2/24/2002 Member: #215 USA |
5/25/2014 4:49 PM
anrst wrote:and JR has zero on his mind LOL |
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Sangfroid
Posts: 24681 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/7/2009 Member: #2784 |
5/27/2014 5:33 PM
Shump has played in a 192 nba games but his salad days were the first 42 games of his nba career when the team was 6 games under .500 and didn't look like it had a chance of making the playoffs? From Shump's scouting report on draftnet:
Weaknesses: Lacks stability/discipline on the court ... Inconsistent … Not efficient at all ... Horrid shot-selection ... Liable to shoot at any time, even when being closely guarded ... Likes to shoot off the dribble on a good deal of his isolation possessions, despite only connecting on 20% of these attempts ... Shoots nearly 5 three pointers per game, despite only shooting 27.8% from behind the arc ... Will often go for the flashy play instead of the easy play, which can lead to unforced turnovers ... Very poor jump shooter, and hasn't shown any improvement in this area during his three-year career with Georgia Tech ... Needs the ball in his hands a lot to be effective on offense and he certainly won't have as many isolation opportunities at the next level ... Should look to take advantage of his size and strength more in the post, but has yet to add this dimension to his game ... Attitude has been questioned in the past, but to his credit he appears to have matured over the past year ... http://nbadraft.net/players/iman-shumpert Three years in and most of the faults pointed out are still very evident in his game. I also have tried to keep an optimistic eye regarding Shump. His athletic abilities have kept him in the running, but have not taken him to the next level. The person in his drafting report is the person that we have now. If he can't show the improvement that one expects from a 4 year player, he has to go. "We are playing a game. We are playing at not playing a game..."
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Papabear
Posts: 24373 Alba Posts: 2 Joined: 3/31/2007 Member: #1414 |
5/28/2014 6:39 PM
RonRon wrote:Yes, saving cap space and using it on other area's, while having an effective and efficient combination of talents of PG's Papabear Says So far his relationships has not worked out. Papabear
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BigDaddyG
Posts: 39941 Alba Posts: 9 Joined: 1/22/2010 Member: #3049 |
5/29/2014 8:27 AM
nixluva wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Id make JR PG before Hardaway. Hardaway has one thing in mind when he gets the ball and that is to jack it up THJ had few opportunities to play PG for Michigan because Trey Burke was so ball dominant. It shows in THJ's assist numbers and useage rate. I'm not saying he can't get to point where he could facilitate an offense. But the team is asking for trouble if they expect THJ to be successful in a role he's never had fill before in the pro or college level. Not only would THJ have to bring the ball up against pressure but he would probably have to defend other point guards. Let him master those things against shooting guards first. Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right.
- The Tick
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nixluva
Posts: 56258 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/5/2004 Member: #758 USA |
5/29/2014 5:40 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:nixluva wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Id make JR PG before Hardaway. Hardaway has one thing in mind when he gets the ball and that is to jack it up Just cuz Trey was playing doesn't mean THJ didn't get to handle the ball and make some plays. He did in fact get to do that, but more importantly it's not about actually BEING a PG. As i've pointed out many times Ron Harper played the "point" for 6-7 years for Phil and because the Triangle doesn't really require a lot of the PG spot, which I did show in the video above, it makes it far less important that you have "Ball Dominant" skills. All you have to do is make very simple early decisions in the Triangle. Look at the video again and pay attention to how most of the plays in the Triangle started and what the requirements of the PG usually were. Tex calls one of the guards a "Push Guard" he's just pushing the ball up court and has a very quick and easy decision to either feed the post of make the "Lag Pass" to the guard coming right behind him to the top of the 3pt line and from there its all about player movement which is triggered once they make the "Lag Pass". It's all about a team knowing what to do and when based on the defense. If a defender does a certain thing the players know what action to take. It's much better than standing and watching a PG pound the ball and work off PnR. It doesn't require a real PG in order to work. |
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knicks1248
Posts: 42059 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 2/3/2004 Member: #582 |
5/29/2014 7:11 PM
nixluva wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Id make JR PG before Hardaway. Hardaway has one thing in mind when he gets the ball and that is to jack it up This was a good tutorial on the triangle, but i think the basic fundamentals is where all of our guards suck at (except pablo)...NOT JUST MOVING, BUT MOVING WITH A PURPOSE, The best line was "YOU HOLDING THE BALL, YOUR HOLDING UP ALL YOUR TEAMMATES" There's only a few players on this roster (to me) that will absolutely thrive in this system Melo, JR, THJ, TYLER, Pablo, I think shump will have a hard time figuring it out, it really depends on the coach. ES
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nixluva
Posts: 56258 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/5/2004 Member: #758 USA |
5/30/2014 5:19 AM
It's not rocket science. Shump would have to learn to make the VERY SIMPLE read of feeding the post or making the lag pass or making the 2 pass and cutting. I just don't think he won't be able to do that. It's great for our guards cuz they don't have to pound the ball and create! Just pass and move. The whole thing is triggered by defensive moves. If they double the post there's a set move and pass for that. What I love most is EVERYONE is involved and moving. Practicing the moves and passes over and over should eventually make it second nature but a team has to remain patient and committed to it. It's gonna take time but it will be worth it.
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BigDaddyG
Posts: 39941 Alba Posts: 9 Joined: 1/22/2010 Member: #3049 |
5/30/2014 7:49 AM
nixluva wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:nixluva wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Id make JR PG before Hardaway. Hardaway has one thing in mind when he gets the ball and that is to jack it up I understand that the triangle offenses places fewer responsibilities on the lead guard. But the triangle wouldn't take away the need for THJ to guard the opposing team's point guard or bring the ball against heavy full court pressure. THJ had trouble doing these things as the teams tertiary ball handler. He could grow into the role, but it's too much to expect from him entering next season. There isn't a Kukoc or Pippen around to help pick up the slack. We have Odom, but I'm inclined to believe he's washed up until he proves otherwise. Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right.
- The Tick
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