Nalod wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Most under rated player in this draft--IF we do trade melo for picks with the Bulls--he would be my easy number #1 target--I view him as good as ANY player with the exception of a HEALTHY Embiid. He is as good as Paker Smart Wiggins etc... hes going to be a 20+ NBA scorer by year 2. He's got a great body a little over 6-8 225 with longish arms--controls his dribble plays good D can score from all over the court and he uses both hands very well. He's as sure a bet in this draft as anyone to be a really good NBA player.

I have seen him play a lot. He gets a lot of points in the paint and in the pro's he'll be pushed around. He needs some bulk, and that will happen.

Once he gets his 3 pt shot down--he will be very hard to guard. Hes excellent at straight-line dribble drive--hes very hard to guard when he takes a guy off the dribble using a floater the backboard or just throwing down. Look at some of his film--he's excellent at court long drives. He accelerates with the dribble and he has a variety of moves to get to where he wants the shot. He has shown he can play D--his adjustment to the NBA will be guarding 3's but thats what pro training camp and fundamental skill practice is for. Hes got quick hands--he needs to move his feet better on D. Hes a cherry picking rebounder--better on the O than the D--so that also needs to be addressed. That being said hes going to score and hes going to score a LOT. Hes a 20 pt scorer in the NBA and I think hes going to do it close to 50%. I kind of class him in with Kelly Olynck a little bit. Olynck started to really show what he can do later in the season with time/some confidence and while TJ is not a C he can go 3-4 and use his assets at both spots. He needs to improve but when a guy can score the basketball as easy as he can--he will be a really good player. Now is he a winning player--a team player.

BRIGGS wrote:Most under rated player in this draft--IF we do trade melo for picks with the Bulls--he would be my easy number #1 target--I view him as good as ANY player with the exception of a HEALTHY Embiid. He is as good as Paker Smart Wiggins etc... hes going to be a 20+ NBA scorer by year 2. He's got a great body a little over 6-8 225 with longish arms--controls his dribble plays good D can score from all over the court and he uses both hands very well. He's as sure a bet in this draft as anyone to be a really good NBA player.

NBA BUST: JOEL EMBIID
NBA ROY: Whoever Cleveland drafts as their first pick. (Wiggins)
Most Overrated: DANTE EXUM
Most Likely to make All-Star: MARCUS SMART
Underrated: TYLER ENNIS

Swishfm3 wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Most under rated player in this draft--IF we do trade melo for picks with the Bulls--he would be my easy number #1 target--I view him as good as ANY player with the exception of a HEALTHY Embiid. He is as good as Paker Smart Wiggins etc... hes going to be a 20+ NBA scorer by year 2. He's got a great body a little over 6-8 225 with longish arms--controls his dribble plays good D can score from all over the court and he uses both hands very well. He's as sure a bet in this draft as anyone to be a really good NBA player.

I don't see anything that would suggest this guy is anything more than a role player. He reminds me of the ghost of Lee Nailon past.

He isn't...Briggs is on a YouTube crusade to find that hidden gem.

I had the pleasure at attend a few NC State games this year and this guy is nothing special...definitely NOT 6'8, has freakishly long arms but doesn't seem to be a big leaper. he does have nice handles for a big man which is only real advantage, imo

BRIGGS wrote:Most under rated player in this draft--IF we do trade melo for picks with the Bulls--he would be my easy number #1 target--I view him as good as ANY player with the exception of a HEALTHY Embiid. He is as good as Paker Smart Wiggins etc... hes going to be a 20+ NBA scorer by year 2. He's got a great body a little over 6-8 225 with longish arms--controls his dribble plays good D can score from all over the court and he uses both hands very well. He's as sure a bet in this draft as anyone to be a really good NBA player.

I dont see it and he is ranked as a pretty high draft pick
For where the mock drafted have them, Would much rather have

Adrien Payne
Zack Lavine

Possibly even trading down for combinations of players like

Burton

KC McDaniels
DeAndre Daniels

Value picks and both being BIG PGs with Ron Harper developming them and guide them through the NBA and Triangle OFF and DEF on playing both PG and SG as he once did

Dwinwiddie (recovering from torn ACL, so would likely drop)
DeAndre Kane
Also "Euro Westbrook" who some here liked in last years draft but was never selected (could use a LATE, ending draft pick" and using part of the MLE in our future to stash future talents, forgot his name

Bogdan Bogdanovic

Greek Freaks brother

Jordan Backinski
Alec Brown

Corey Jefferson
Patrick Young
Alex Kirk

Many PG's that would be steals in this deep draft that probably is deepest in PGs and combo guards (that are not mentioned above like, some of which will not even get drafted that PJ should call right away personally to recruit .... "

Rus Smith
Jahii Carson
Aaroncraft
Keith Appeiling
Kendall Williams

Nick Johnson
Markel Brown
Lamar Patterson

With many other talents not mentioned

I know we do not own any picks but we need to do our homework and prepare like we have multiple picks with

1- possible trades in CA, Chandler, Iman, JR Smith, Tim Hardaway JR (if we can get back great value for him like 2 2nd rounders in this draft and/or a future 1st rounder or multiple 2nd round picks to consider

2- purchasing picks with the 3m not used since last summer and I believe we can trade for players rights with the 3.2m this summer (anyone know for sure if we may use it twice or is it use it or lose it?)

3- undrafted players, expect major changes in building a new era with Jackson
From the roster, coaches, development (new staff system and trainers/development coach), managements, philosophies both on and off the court, establishing a team identity, no longer overpaying for talent on trades and contracts, and most importantly a new winning culture with work ethic/working hard both on and off the court during the season and in the summer like Spurs, OKC, Bulls, Heat, and Clippers

Getting players that are not only talented but having the ability to creating for their team mates and being unselfish for each other, placing the team at #1 priority with winning over personal achievements and future contracts aside
Something I see in Dwinwiddie and DeAndre Kane as our PGs of our future while using our MLE possibly on a Darren Collison, Sessions, Bayless, DJ Augustine, Mo Williams, or Livingston (like him but with his injuries, I question the length and amount of his possible contract, but splitting it on him and another talent would be quite solid

However if we were able to get 2-3 PGs in this draft and undrafted, maybe getting Ariza or Gasol for the 5m + MLE if CA leaves, they both owe Phil Jackson and Odom an interview if the contracts they are getting are only a bit more
With their rings, success, revamped careers, continued development, and familiarity with the Triangle, I would embrace both talents

Also would love James Johnson and Sefelosha for a
2 year vet min deal

Love Darko in the triangle especially if
Chandler is traded and Cole Alrich walks for a better contract
Development coaches/ assistant coaches

Derek Fisher
Shane Battier
Ron Harper
Rasheed Wallace
Jason Kapono as our shooting coach

I take it you reside in the triangle, NC region?

RonROn,

I tend to glance at your stuff as its very long, but thats cool. When I see "Darko" you just lose me entirely. Do a google on him, he is "done" with the NBA.

Then give a thought to his NBA career and his reputation.

Then give pause to think about the type of players that have been on PHil Jax teams.

BRIGGS wrote:Top 30 list draft Ill do round 2 later

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#1 Joel Embiid C (Caveat is health if health 100%)

#2 Andrew Wiggins G/F

#3 Jabari Parker F

--this tier is set any of these guys could go number 1

#4 Marcus Smart PG

#5 Julius Randle PF

#6 Jusuf Nurkic C

#7 Rodney Hood G/F

#8 T J Warren F

#9 Aaron Gordon F

#10 Dante Exum G

#11 Jordan Clarkson PG

#12 Noah Vonleh PF

#13 Shabazz Napier
#14 James Young G

#15 Zach Lavine G

#16 Doug Mcdermott

#17 Glenn Robinson G

#18 Nick Staukus G

#19 Dario Saric F

#20 K J Mcdaniels F

#21 Jarnell Stokes PF

#22 Elfrid Payton PG

#23 Tyler Ennis PG

#24 Adrien Payne PF

#25 Jordan Bachynski C

#26 Gary Harris G

#27 Kyle Andersen G

#28 Jabari Brown G

#29 Jordan Adams G

#30 Isiah Austin PF

Round 2

#31 Markel Brown G

# 32 Cameron Bairstow PF

# 33 P J Hairston G

#34 Cory Jefferson F

#35 Mitch Mcgary C

#36 Deandre Daniels F

#37 Ronald Roberts

# 38 Jahii Carson PG

#39 Cleanthony Early F

# 40 Clint Capella F

#41 Deonte Burton PG

#42 Alec Brown F

#43 Nick Johnson G

#44 Patrick Young F/C

#45 Russ Smith PG

#46 Dwight Powell PF

#47 Vasilje Micic #48 Deandre Kane PG

#49 Sean Kilpatrick G

# 50 C J Wilcox G

#51 Semaj Christon PG

#52 Spencer Dinwiddie G

#53 C J Fair F

#54 James Mcadoo PF

#55 Kristaps Porzingis F

#56 Johnny Obryant PF

# 57 Chaz Williams PG

#58 Casey Prather F

#59 Walter Taveras C

#60 Jakar Sampson F