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yellowboy90 wrote:

mreinman wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

mreinman wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

mreinman wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

mreinman wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

mreinman wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:One thing that does scare me about Indy is that they could be in play for Lowry. If Toronto traded Lowry I am not sure they would take back Hill though. I think George Hill would make a great triangle pg.

Toronto is keeping Lowry. How would they justify trading him now? The city is going nuts over him and the raptors.

If they lose the rest of their games and I think Ujiri wants to bottom out. Just a feeling. He will try to fleece someone into taking Derozen too.

Derozen and Lowry for PaullyG and Hibbert

who wins?

Toronto. It's debatable whether Derozan is better than Stephenson and it's unknown if Lowry is going to play at this level next year or revert to form. .

Return to form? "form" was good before this year.

Stephenson is a head case and is also still young but if he continues to play like he did this year then he is the better player.

He wasn't a top 10, possible top 5 PG last year. He wasn't even a starter by the end of last year.

those are coaches decisions (and they are often dumb ones). His numbers were always good.

Yeah, but not top 10 good. I'll use Ty Lawson as an example as PG who usually in or around the top 10. This is the first season that Lowry has played better than Lawson, for whatever reason. This is the only season where I can look at Lowry and say should've been an All Star. Will he keep that up next year? I don't know. But if I had to guess, I'd say no.

Lawson is good too. Not as good defensively.

A lot has to do with playing time. As I have said, Lowry has always put up good numbers. His efficiency is very slightly up this year.

See that's what you are adding(defense) with Lowry that makes his avg TS% okay to bank on. Lowry plays D and rebounds well for his position plus he is an adequate passer. I don't think Lowry is a 10M player but he is worth 7-8M a year.

yellowboy90 wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

mreinman wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

mreinman wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

mreinman wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

mreinman wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

mreinman wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:One thing that does scare me about Indy is that they could be in play for Lowry. If Toronto traded Lowry I am not sure they would take back Hill though. I think George Hill would make a great triangle pg.

Toronto is keeping Lowry. How would they justify trading him now? The city is going nuts over him and the raptors.

If they lose the rest of their games and I think Ujiri wants to bottom out. Just a feeling. He will try to fleece someone into taking Derozen too.

Derozen and Lowry for PaullyG and Hibbert

who wins?

Toronto. It's debatable whether Derozan is better than Stephenson and it's unknown if Lowry is going to play at this level next year or revert to form. .

Return to form? "form" was good before this year.

Stephenson is a head case and is also still young but if he continues to play like he did this year then he is the better player.

He wasn't a top 10, possible top 5 PG last year. He wasn't even a starter by the end of last year.

those are coaches decisions (and they are often dumb ones). His numbers were always good.

Yeah, but not top 10 good. I'll use Ty Lawson as an example as PG who usually in or around the top 10. This is the first season that Lowry has played better than Lawson, for whatever reason. This is the only season where I can look at Lowry and say should've been an All Star. Will he keep that up next year? I don't know. But if I had to guess, I'd say no.

Lawson is good too. Not as good defensively.

A lot has to do with playing time. As I have said, Lowry has always put up good numbers. His efficiency is very slightly up this year.

See that's what you are adding(defense) with Lowry that makes his avg TS% okay to bank on. Lowry plays D and rebounds well for his position plus he is an adequate passer. I don't think Lowry is a 10M player but he is worth 7-8M a year.

I agree. Lowry is having career years across the board: true shooting %, assists, turnovers. He really hasn't performed at that level throughout his career. He's been an above average PG, but he's going to want top 10 point guard money at the end of the season. I'm not convinced he'll continue to play the same way and i don't think it's a good idea to gamble $10 to $12 million a year contract to find out.

You really think he'll get 10-12M? That's a lot. I mean given the cap increase it might not be all that bad for teams but I'm with you on anything over 10M would be a gamble. However, stopping to look over his stats, his numbers are still very close to his career avg and his Houston numbers. Also, it's not he shoots a lot he just plays within himself which is good going forward if he is partnered with a high usg guy.

He has a PER of 20 and 11.7 win shares. That's a big jump from anything he's done earlier in his career. I'd be surprised if that carried over. As for contract, I'm guessing $10 to $12M off of whar Ty Lawson's, Jeff Teague and Bra neon Jennings got. Plus it's Toronto, a team that tends to overpay.

Bonn1997 wrote:

mreinman wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

mreinman wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

mreinman wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

mreinman wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

KNICKSdom wrote:Did the Pacers become the #1 seed without Hibbert? Hibbert is an efficient and effective down low center. Rare, they don't grow on trees. I think pacers signing Bynum was toxic to Hibbert in practices. Just saying.

Hibbert is neither efficient nor effective. People get pissy over Melo's play, despite his career TS% and eFG% being 54.7% and 48.3% respectively. Mind you, Melo is a perimeter player and of average NBA height. Meanwhile Hibbert's career TS% and eFG% are 51.3% and 46.8% as the tallest player in the NBA. And as far as his effectiveness goes, the guy averages just 11.6ppg and 7.2rpg, albeit as a good defender (under certain conditions). The dude has always been grossly overrated and is a prime candidate of a player that gets hyped because he is on a winning team.

nice

Stop adopting people in your league of saber-metrics.

it is my calling to empower people to overcome their addictive minds

All hail saber-metrics!

Now, do you still want Tyreke Evans, Josh Smooth and BJennings?

You need to flush those thoughts out of your system

LOL. To be fair, I never wanted Brandon Jennings and I'd ONLY take Tyreke Evans if it came in a package deal that rid us of Amar'e/Bargnani AND brought back both Jrue Holiday and Eric Gordon (overpaid but still good and effective).

I still would take Josh Smith before because I think he could be reached. His only issue is his shot selection and not necessarily his offense (after all, the guy was a league leader in his efficiency in the painted area the previous season). If we fix that through some Zen magic, he'd be an all-star candidate.

Josh Smith is a super talented bone head. If Phil wants to zenify him anew, I am all for it.

Phil's a great coach, not a magician. Have you noticed Josh Smith's salary?! They'd have to give me 4 1st round picks to take on that $hit

Josh Smith is playing out of position at SF, he needs to be in the paint at PF. He gets a good amount of blocks, Steals, rebounds, Ast and points. It was a down year due to the lack of spacing in Detroit's front court forcing him to have to shoot more 3s.

The ideal situation would be for him to be a primary big off the PNR. I don't know enough about the triangle and how his skill set fits.

knickscity wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

mreinman wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

mreinman wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

mreinman wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

mreinman wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

KNICKSdom wrote:Did the Pacers become the #1 seed without Hibbert? Hibbert is an efficient and effective down low center. Rare, they don't grow on trees. I think pacers signing Bynum was toxic to Hibbert in practices. Just saying.

Hibbert is neither efficient nor effective. People get pissy over Melo's play, despite his career TS% and eFG% being 54.7% and 48.3% respectively. Mind you, Melo is a perimeter player and of average NBA height. Meanwhile Hibbert's career TS% and eFG% are 51.3% and 46.8% as the tallest player in the NBA. And as far as his effectiveness goes, the guy averages just 11.6ppg and 7.2rpg, albeit as a good defender (under certain conditions). The dude has always been grossly overrated and is a prime candidate of a player that gets hyped because he is on a winning team.

nice

Stop adopting people in your league of saber-metrics.

it is my calling to empower people to overcome their addictive minds

All hail saber-metrics!

Now, do you still want Tyreke Evans, Josh Smooth and BJennings?

You need to flush those thoughts out of your system

LOL. To be fair, I never wanted Brandon Jennings and I'd ONLY take Tyreke Evans if it came in a package deal that rid us of Amar'e/Bargnani AND brought back both Jrue Holiday and Eric Gordon (overpaid but still good and effective).

I still would take Josh Smith before because I think he could be reached. His only issue is his shot selection and not necessarily his offense (after all, the guy was a league leader in his efficiency in the painted area the previous season). If we fix that through some Zen magic, he'd be an all-star candidate.

Josh Smith is a super talented bone head. If Phil wants to zenify him anew, I am all for it.

Phil's a great coach, not a magician. Have you noticed Josh Smith's salary?! They'd have to give me 4 1st round picks to take on that $hit

Josh Smith is playing out of position at SF, he needs to be in the paint at PF. He gets a good amount of blocks, Steals, rebounds, Ast and points. It was a down year due to the lack of spacing in Detroit's front court forcing him to have to shoot more 3s.

The ideal situation would be for him to be a primary big off the PNR. I don't know enough about the triangle and how his skill set fits.

He's shot less than 1 three more per game, it's not like he was taking two a game and now takes 4. And for the record his true position is SF, he's been playing out of position his whole career.

At this point though, he has a terrible contract and isnt even a good player.

knickscity wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

mreinman wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

mreinman wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

mreinman wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

mreinman wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

KNICKSdom wrote:Did the Pacers become the #1 seed without Hibbert? Hibbert is an efficient and effective down low center. Rare, they don't grow on trees. I think pacers signing Bynum was toxic to Hibbert in practices. Just saying.

Hibbert is neither efficient nor effective. People get pissy over Melo's play, despite his career TS% and eFG% being 54.7% and 48.3% respectively. Mind you, Melo is a perimeter player and of average NBA height. Meanwhile Hibbert's career TS% and eFG% are 51.3% and 46.8% as the tallest player in the NBA. And as far as his effectiveness goes, the guy averages just 11.6ppg and 7.2rpg, albeit as a good defender (under certain conditions). The dude has always been grossly overrated and is a prime candidate of a player that gets hyped because he is on a winning team.

nice

Stop adopting people in your league of saber-metrics.

it is my calling to empower people to overcome their addictive minds

All hail saber-metrics!

Now, do you still want Tyreke Evans, Josh Smooth and BJennings?

You need to flush those thoughts out of your system

LOL. To be fair, I never wanted Brandon Jennings and I'd ONLY take Tyreke Evans if it came in a package deal that rid us of Amar'e/Bargnani AND brought back both Jrue Holiday and Eric Gordon (overpaid but still good and effective).

I still would take Josh Smith before because I think he could be reached. His only issue is his shot selection and not necessarily his offense (after all, the guy was a league leader in his efficiency in the painted area the previous season). If we fix that through some Zen magic, he'd be an all-star candidate.

Josh Smith is a super talented bone head. If Phil wants to zenify him anew, I am all for it.

Phil's a great coach, not a magician. Have you noticed Josh Smith's salary?! They'd have to give me 4 1st round picks to take on that $hit

Josh Smith is playing out of position at SF, he needs to be in the paint at PF. He gets a good amount of blocks, Steals, rebounds, Ast and points. It was a down year due to the lack of spacing in Detroit's front court forcing him to have to shoot more 3s.

The ideal situation would be for him to be a primary big off the PNR. I don't know enough about the triangle and how his skill set fits.

He's shot less than 1 three more per game, it's not like he was taking two a game and now takes 4. And for the record his true position is SF, he's been playing out of position his whole career.

At this point though, he has a terrible contract and isnt even a good player.

Josh Smith is 6'10", 245lbs. You still want to stick by the him "not being a 4" argument, in a league that has starts LeBron James, Carmelo Anthony and Paul Pierce at that position?

knickscity wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

mreinman wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

mreinman wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

mreinman wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

mreinman wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

KNICKSdom wrote:Did the Pacers become the #1 seed without Hibbert? Hibbert is an efficient and effective down low center. Rare, they don't grow on trees. I think pacers signing Bynum was toxic to Hibbert in practices. Just saying.

Hibbert is neither efficient nor effective. People get pissy over Melo's play, despite his career TS% and eFG% being 54.7% and 48.3% respectively. Mind you, Melo is a perimeter player and of average NBA height. Meanwhile Hibbert's career TS% and eFG% are 51.3% and 46.8% as the tallest player in the NBA. And as far as his effectiveness goes, the guy averages just 11.6ppg and 7.2rpg, albeit as a good defender (under certain conditions). The dude has always been grossly overrated and is a prime candidate of a player that gets hyped because he is on a winning team.

nice

Stop adopting people in your league of saber-metrics.

it is my calling to empower people to overcome their addictive minds

All hail saber-metrics!

Now, do you still want Tyreke Evans, Josh Smooth and BJennings?

You need to flush those thoughts out of your system

LOL. To be fair, I never wanted Brandon Jennings and I'd ONLY take Tyreke Evans if it came in a package deal that rid us of Amar'e/Bargnani AND brought back both Jrue Holiday and Eric Gordon (overpaid but still good and effective).

I still would take Josh Smith before because I think he could be reached. His only issue is his shot selection and not necessarily his offense (after all, the guy was a league leader in his efficiency in the painted area the previous season). If we fix that through some Zen magic, he'd be an all-star candidate.

Josh Smith is a super talented bone head. If Phil wants to zenify him anew, I am all for it.

Phil's a great coach, not a magician. Have you noticed Josh Smith's salary?! They'd have to give me 4 1st round picks to take on that $hit

Josh Smith is playing out of position at SF, he needs to be in the paint at PF. He gets a good amount of blocks, Steals, rebounds, Ast and points. It was a down year due to the lack of spacing in Detroit's front court forcing him to have to shoot more 3s.

The ideal situation would be for him to be a primary big off the PNR. I don't know enough about the triangle and how his skill set fits.

He's shot less than 1 three more per game, it's not like he was taking two a game and now takes 4. And for the record his true position is SF, he's been playing out of position his whole career.

At this point though, he has a terrible contract and isnt even a good player.

There was a year where he shot 7 3pters the whole year. His fg% was 505 that year. To go along with 8.7rebs 4.2ast, 1.6stls, 2.1blks, 15.7pts.

He is a talent just like Zack Randolph if he is put in the right situation and roll he can do well.

I'm not saying the Knicks should eat his contract unless Phil thinks they should. I'm just saying.

NardDogNation wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

mreinman wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

mreinman wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

mreinman wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

mreinman wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

KNICKSdom wrote:Did the Pacers become the #1 seed without Hibbert? Hibbert is an efficient and effective down low center. Rare, they don't grow on trees. I think pacers signing Bynum was toxic to Hibbert in practices. Just saying.

Hibbert is neither efficient nor effective. People get pissy over Melo's play, despite his career TS% and eFG% being 54.7% and 48.3% respectively. Mind you, Melo is a perimeter player and of average NBA height. Meanwhile Hibbert's career TS% and eFG% are 51.3% and 46.8% as the tallest player in the NBA. And as far as his effectiveness goes, the guy averages just 11.6ppg and 7.2rpg, albeit as a good defender (under certain conditions). The dude has always been grossly overrated and is a prime candidate of a player that gets hyped because he is on a winning team.

nice

Stop adopting people in your league of saber-metrics.

it is my calling to empower people to overcome their addictive minds

All hail saber-metrics!

Now, do you still want Tyreke Evans, Josh Smooth and BJennings?

You need to flush those thoughts out of your system

LOL. To be fair, I never wanted Brandon Jennings and I'd ONLY take Tyreke Evans if it came in a package deal that rid us of Amar'e/Bargnani AND brought back both Jrue Holiday and Eric Gordon (overpaid but still good and effective).

I still would take Josh Smith before because I think he could be reached. His only issue is his shot selection and not necessarily his offense (after all, the guy was a league leader in his efficiency in the painted area the previous season). If we fix that through some Zen magic, he'd be an all-star candidate.

Josh Smith is a super talented bone head. If Phil wants to zenify him anew, I am all for it.

Phil's a great coach, not a magician. Have you noticed Josh Smith's salary?! They'd have to give me 4 1st round picks to take on that $hit

What do you honestly see us doing in 2015 and 2016 then?

Bonn1997 wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

mreinman wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

mreinman wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

mreinman wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

mreinman wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

KNICKSdom wrote:Did the Pacers become the #1 seed without Hibbert? Hibbert is an efficient and effective down low center. Rare, they don't grow on trees. I think pacers signing Bynum was toxic to Hibbert in practices. Just saying.

Hibbert is neither efficient nor effective. People get pissy over Melo's play, despite his career TS% and eFG% being 54.7% and 48.3% respectively. Mind you, Melo is a perimeter player and of average NBA height. Meanwhile Hibbert's career TS% and eFG% are 51.3% and 46.8% as the tallest player in the NBA. And as far as his effectiveness goes, the guy averages just 11.6ppg and 7.2rpg, albeit as a good defender (under certain conditions). The dude has always been grossly overrated and is a prime candidate of a player that gets hyped because he is on a winning team.

nice

Stop adopting people in your league of saber-metrics.

it is my calling to empower people to overcome their addictive minds

All hail saber-metrics!

Now, do you still want Tyreke Evans, Josh Smooth and BJennings?

You need to flush those thoughts out of your system

LOL. To be fair, I never wanted Brandon Jennings and I'd ONLY take Tyreke Evans if it came in a package deal that rid us of Amar'e/Bargnani AND brought back both Jrue Holiday and Eric Gordon (overpaid but still good and effective).

I still would take Josh Smith before because I think he could be reached. His only issue is his shot selection and not necessarily his offense (after all, the guy was a league leader in his efficiency in the painted area the previous season). If we fix that through some Zen magic, he'd be an all-star candidate.

Josh Smith is a super talented bone head. If Phil wants to zenify him anew, I am all for it.

Phil's a great coach, not a magician. Have you noticed Josh Smith's salary?! They'd have to give me 4 1st round picks to take on that $hit

What do you honestly see us doing in 2015 and 2016 then?

2 seasons? Is the world coming to an end after 2016? I don't really know what Dolan/Phil will do. I can't say what I think they will do. I hope they'll base their decisions on the best available metrics and go for the best buys. I list the specific players I think are underpriced and would love to add at times. (Most recently I wrote in the Patrick Mills thread on that.) But I can't answer your question about what Dolan will do.

I ask because his salary is only an issue if the opportunity cost exceeds his value. After 2016, his contract could be dumped as an expirer. Personally, I don't mind acquiring Smith because the current NBA landscape would suggest that no current/future all-star will become a free agent. So why sit on the money, waiting for an eventuality that will never come? I'll take a look at your list in the other thread but NBA history has been littered with guys like Josh Smith, who are supposedly inefficient and ineffective that become both efficient and effective with better teammates (see Zach Randolph and Lamar Odom). $63 million is quite a bit of money and we could just as easily add Josh Smith and your guys as well, with Melo.

NardDogNation wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

mreinman wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

mreinman wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

mreinman wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

mreinman wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

KNICKSdom wrote:Did the Pacers become the #1 seed without Hibbert? Hibbert is an efficient and effective down low center. Rare, they don't grow on trees. I think pacers signing Bynum was toxic to Hibbert in practices. Just saying.

Hibbert is neither efficient nor effective. People get pissy over Melo's play, despite his career TS% and eFG% being 54.7% and 48.3% respectively. Mind you, Melo is a perimeter player and of average NBA height. Meanwhile Hibbert's career TS% and eFG% are 51.3% and 46.8% as the tallest player in the NBA. And as far as his effectiveness goes, the guy averages just 11.6ppg and 7.2rpg, albeit as a good defender (under certain conditions). The dude has always been grossly overrated and is a prime candidate of a player that gets hyped because he is on a winning team.

nice

Stop adopting people in your league of saber-metrics.

it is my calling to empower people to overcome their addictive minds

All hail saber-metrics!

Now, do you still want Tyreke Evans, Josh Smooth and BJennings?

You need to flush those thoughts out of your system

LOL. To be fair, I never wanted Brandon Jennings and I'd ONLY take Tyreke Evans if it came in a package deal that rid us of Amar'e/Bargnani AND brought back both Jrue Holiday and Eric Gordon (overpaid but still good and effective).

I still would take Josh Smith before because I think he could be reached. His only issue is his shot selection and not necessarily his offense (after all, the guy was a league leader in his efficiency in the painted area the previous season). If we fix that through some Zen magic, he'd be an all-star candidate.

Josh Smith is a super talented bone head. If Phil wants to zenify him anew, I am all for it.

Phil's a great coach, not a magician. Have you noticed Josh Smith's salary?! They'd have to give me 4 1st round picks to take on that $hit

What do you honestly see us doing in 2015 and 2016 then?

2 seasons? Is the world coming to an end after 2016? I don't really know what Dolan/Phil will do. I can't say what I think they will do. I hope they'll base their decisions on the best available metrics and go for the best buys. I list the specific players I think are underpriced and would love to add at times. (Most recently I wrote in the Patrick Mills thread on that.) But I can't answer your question about what Dolan will do.

I ask because his salary is only an issue if the opportunity cost exceeds his value. After 2016, his contract could be dumped as an expirer. Personally, I don't mind acquiring Smith because the current NBA landscape would suggest that no current/future all-star will become a free agent. So why sit on the money, waiting for an eventuality that will never come? I'll take a look at your list in the other thread but NBA history has been littered with guys like Josh Smith, who are supposedly inefficient and ineffective that become both efficient and effective with better teammates (see Zach Randolph and Lamar Odom). $63 million is quite a bit of money and we could just as easily add Josh Smith and your guys as well, with Melo.

Bonn1997 wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

mreinman wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

mreinman wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

mreinman wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

mreinman wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

KNICKSdom wrote:Did the Pacers become the #1 seed without Hibbert? Hibbert is an efficient and effective down low center. Rare, they don't grow on trees. I think pacers signing Bynum was toxic to Hibbert in practices. Just saying.

Hibbert is neither efficient nor effective. People get pissy over Melo's play, despite his career TS% and eFG% being 54.7% and 48.3% respectively. Mind you, Melo is a perimeter player and of average NBA height. Meanwhile Hibbert's career TS% and eFG% are 51.3% and 46.8% as the tallest player in the NBA. And as far as his effectiveness goes, the guy averages just 11.6ppg and 7.2rpg, albeit as a good defender (under certain conditions). The dude has always been grossly overrated and is a prime candidate of a player that gets hyped because he is on a winning team.

nice

Stop adopting people in your league of saber-metrics.

it is my calling to empower people to overcome their addictive minds

All hail saber-metrics!

Now, do you still want Tyreke Evans, Josh Smooth and BJennings?

You need to flush those thoughts out of your system

LOL. To be fair, I never wanted Brandon Jennings and I'd ONLY take Tyreke Evans if it came in a package deal that rid us of Amar'e/Bargnani AND brought back both Jrue Holiday and Eric Gordon (overpaid but still good and effective).

I still would take Josh Smith before because I think he could be reached. His only issue is his shot selection and not necessarily his offense (after all, the guy was a league leader in his efficiency in the painted area the previous season). If we fix that through some Zen magic, he'd be an all-star candidate.

Josh Smith is a super talented bone head. If Phil wants to zenify him anew, I am all for it.

Phil's a great coach, not a magician. Have you noticed Josh Smith's salary?! They'd have to give me 4 1st round picks to take on that $hit

What do you honestly see us doing in 2015 and 2016 then?

2 seasons? Is the world coming to an end after 2016? I don't really know what Dolan/Phil will do. I can't say what I think they will do. I hope they'll base their decisions on the best available metrics and go for the best buys. I list the specific players I think are underpriced and would love to add at times. (Most recently I wrote in the Patrick Mills thread on that.) But I can't answer your question about what Dolan will do.

I ask because his salary is only an issue if the opportunity cost exceeds his value. After 2016, his contract could be dumped as an expirer. Personally, I don't mind acquiring Smith because the current NBA landscape would suggest that no current/future all-star will become a free agent. So why sit on the money, waiting for an eventuality that will never come? I'll take a look at your list in the other thread but NBA history has been littered with guys like Josh Smith, who are supposedly inefficient and ineffective that become both efficient and effective with better teammates (see Zach Randolph and Lamar Odom). $63 million is quite a bit of money and we could just as easily add Josh Smith and your guys as well, with Melo.

Efficiency is pretty stable. Big changes are rare and not worth gambling on. I don't have a problem with Smith. If you could divide his salary by ten, I'd gladly use a roster space on him and take that gamble.

Fair. I suppose that I'm too comfortable with spending other people's money, lol.