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1/20/2014  3:46 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/20/2014  3:47 PM
nixluva wrote:
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nixluva wrote:It starts at the top. Woody is just making all the wrong decisions and the players are looking as disjointed and groping for anything to work. They have to have stretches of high effort in order to win, but that can't sustain them for an entire season. They need a base scheme that makes sense to rely on. A style of play that gets them easy baskets as opposed to working hard solo just to get any scores.

Look at the spacing of the Nets and then look at the Knicks sets!!! Does it look familiar?

There are a lot of problems. Woody, Tyson having a injury riddled season, the horrible bargnani trade, the horrible pg play

Laziness, Bargs

Coach NEVER DOES ANYTHING ABOUT THAT!!! I've never seen him give Bargs a kick in the ass for lazy play!!! have you? I mean this has happened at various times this year. Not always, but progressively Bargs has been giving less and less effort and no response from the coach or anyone. You don't have any enforcement of effort or focus on this team. I can think of a ton of coaches that wouldn't stand for this. It's not just Bargs, tho he's the most obvious.

now you realize why we were all unhappy with the Bargs trade. This is the NBA not pre-school Bargs should know how to bring effort.
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1/20/2014  3:47 PM
Look Bargs played well at Center when Tyson was out. This is a guy you have to make sure is involved and you need to stay on him. As for the way he's used on offense it's been horrible. There's nothing good about Woodson's use of his roster. He makes changes and they make no sense.
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1/20/2014  3:47 PM
knicks1248 wrote:we look like day 1 of training camp


Was saying the same thing to myself. There is no rhythm on offense what so ever...
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1/20/2014  3:49 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/20/2014  3:49 PM
nixluva wrote:Look Bargs played well at Center when Tyson was out. This is a guy you have to make sure is involved and you need to stay on him. As for the way he's used on offense it's been horrible. There's nothing good about Woodson's use of his roster. He makes changes and they make no sense.
Like i said its perfectly fine being a fan of Bargs BUT Bargs is a grown man in the NBA he should bring effort without someone having to tell him
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1/20/2014  3:51 PM
Melo will be run down for the second half so let the blow out continue. But maybe Tyson will take over like the great offensive weapon he is.
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1/20/2014  3:55 PM
StarksEwing1 wrote:
nixluva wrote:Look Bargs played well at Center when Tyson was out. This is a guy you have to make sure is involved and you need to stay on him. As for the way he's used on offense it's been horrible. There's nothing good about Woodson's use of his roster. He makes changes and they make no sense.
Like i said its perfectly fine being a fan of Bargs BUT Bargs is a grown man in the NBA he should bring effort without someone having to tell him

I said from the start that Bargs was not a high motor guy and I never expected that he'd suddenly become a guy that is all effort. What he can bring tho is good if he's used right and put in a good position to excel. We've seen him play well. It's inconsistent because of the poor coaching. The entire team is inconsistent and you're focusing on Bargs as if he's supposed to be the focus of this teams effort and execution.

The problems are making his play worse and not better. IF you have bad PG play it's going to make Bargs play worse, because his game is reliant on a PG being able to run an offense. He's a PnP big and we rarely get him great looks. You can't get random looks and without any rhythm and expect Bargs to look great. This is exactly the WRONG way to use him.
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1/20/2014  3:59 PM
nixluva wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
nixluva wrote:Look Bargs played well at Center when Tyson was out. This is a guy you have to make sure is involved and you need to stay on him. As for the way he's used on offense it's been horrible. There's nothing good about Woodson's use of his roster. He makes changes and they make no sense.
Like i said its perfectly fine being a fan of Bargs BUT Bargs is a grown man in the NBA he should bring effort without someone having to tell him

I said from the start that Bargs was not a high motor guy and I never expected that he'd suddenly become a guy that is all effort. What he can bring tho is good if he's used right and put in a good position to excel. We've seen him play well. It's inconsistent because of the poor coaching. The entire team is inconsistent and you're focusing on Bargs as if he's supposed to be the focus of this teams effort and execution.

The problems are making his play worse and not better. IF you have bad PG play it's going to make Bargs play worse, because his game is reliant on a PG being able to run an offense. He's a PnP big and we rarely get him great looks. You can't get random looks and without any rhythm and expect Bargs to look great. This is exactly the WRONG way to use him.

I think we can both agree that it wasnt the right move. Well at least eh is gone after next seson i guess
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1/20/2014  4:00 PM 
Start of 3rd Qtr 
NYK 38 BKN 52
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1/20/2014  4:00 PM
Good D there on the 1st possession of the 2nd half. Open 3 is a good start.
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1/20/2014  4:04 PM
PERFECT example of this horrid offense Woody has them playing!!!
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1/20/2014  4:05 PM 
3rd Qtr 9:01
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1/20/2014  4:06 PM
another airball
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1/20/2014  4:07 PM
What the hell is wrong with Felton?
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1/20/2014  4:09 PM
TeamBall wrote:What the hell is wrong with Felton?

he sucks
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1/20/2014  4:10 PM 
3rd Qtr 6:49
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1/20/2014  4:10 PM
Felton is playing like Toney from Blue CHips. Someone need to see if he has any gambling debts(not seriously).
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1/20/2014  4:10 PM
TeamBall wrote:What the hell is wrong with Felton?

He's been terrible the last three games- almost comically bad
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1/20/2014  4:12 PM
NYKBocker wrote:
TeamBall wrote:What the hell is wrong with Felton?

he sucks


I didn't think it'd get this bad though
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1/20/2014  4:12 PM
Felton is trying to do too much and that's because he's not directed to play within his capabilities. He needs to coached to keep it simple.
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1/20/2014  4:13 PM
My goodness. I want to see the kids play.
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