BRIGGS wrote:

nixluva wrote:Judging how much better this team looks without Felton at the point it's a deal worth making. This franchise is already too far gone to worry about picks now. That ship has sailed. Might as well keep digging and go for Lowry. He's a legit PG.

Then you can say goodbye to cap space in 2015 as well.

What does Lowry's contract look like?

gunsnewing wrote:Lowry could be someone you build around in 2015 if he plays well here. Let's face it the PG position is nearly impossible to fill with an above average player

He's 28

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And at last report, Toronto was said to be seeking TWO of the following three: Shumpert, Hardaway Jr., Future First. A bit pricey, I'd say

gunsnewing wrote:Lowry walks or is tradeable how does that effect 2015 unless we drastically over pay him

How can we afford not to pay him if we trade for him and give up essentially 2#1 picks? Shumpert and 2018? for 60 games in a season where we are 5-16?

I still dont think this makes us a good team but wed improve.

Clean wrote:OMG he is trying to do it AGAIN!

Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine 4m
And at last report, Toronto was said to be seeking TWO of the following three: Shumpert, Hardaway Jr., Future First. A bit pricey, I'd say

Ha ha, he has no shame. They got Lowry last year for 1st rounder. Since then his value has declined due to injuries and he is a FA this offseason. Yet somehow his value has now doubled to essentially 2 first rounders.

WALK THE F*** AWAY FROM THIS! Don't let any member of this organisation talk to Ujiri ever again.

Mosgov
Gallo
Chandler
Felton
Corey Brewer
Anthony Randolph
Probably the number one pick in the 2014 draft
Probably a top five pick in the 2016 draft.

Do not deal with this man!

gunsnewing wrote:

Clean wrote:OMG he is trying to do it AGAIN!

Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine 4m
And at last report, Toronto was said to be seeking TWO of the following three: Shumpert, Hardaway Jr., Future First. A bit pricey, I'd say

GTFO typical

Once he said that on the Phone I would have told him to have a nice day and hung up the phone. We can not bend over for this guy again.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/knicks-pursuing-trade-for-kyle-lowry-204933654.html

The New York Knicks are pursuing Toronto point guard Kyle Lowry with a package of Raymond Felton, Metta World Peace and a 2018 first-round draft pick, league sources told Yahoo Sports.

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Kyle Lowry is averaging 14.6 points and 6.7 assists. (USA Today)
Toronto is discussing deals for Lowry with an ever-growing list of teams, league sources said.
Several teams are pursuing Lowry, but the Knicks' most direct competition for him could come from the Brooklyn Nets, who are also exploring the possibility of a deal, league sources said.

Within the Knicks, there's hesitance on including the draft pick, but there's no chance a deal for Lowry could get done without it, sources said. Nevertheless, there's still doubt on how long New York will keep a pick on the table, sources said.

Toronto officials have been scouting and calling European contacts on Bojan Bogdanovic, a 24-year-old shooting guard with whom the Nets own the rights, league sources told Yahoo Sports.

The Knicks have lost Felton for two to three weeks with a hamstring injury. He has been largely ineffective for most of the season.

Lowry has wanted a trade for most of the season and the Raptors became more motivated to move him after acquiring point guard Greiveis Vasquez in a deal with the Sacramento Kings.

World Peace, who signed as free agent this summer, can't be traded until Sunday, per league rules. Freshly signed free agents aren't eligible to be included in trades until Dec. 15.

nyk4ever wrote:in this case... dont even think twice. this trade has to be made.

Wojo is telling you what the Knicks want and the ESPN guy is telling you what the Raps want. I don't like either trade but I think it is obvious which one is coming from the GM that has beat us down in 2 trades previously. Plus the ESPN guy is the one who broke the news on my timeline.