BRIGGS wrote:My guess is that 75%++ Knick fans want a divorce from CA. We dont want to pay him 30mm and he dominates our team our culture and there is no way around it as we dont have the assets to surround him with the correct personnel--he took care of that himself.

Now its in the media he wants to leave--on all of the talk shows---just give it a little bit and he will be booed out of MSG.

I want a divorce from CA and CAA.

Clean wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Another question how does anyone but Carmelo know what he wants to do? More Stephen smoke?

Screaming A Smith has sources. He was months ahead on some big moves in the past. He has really good sources with the top guys from the Lebron draft.

He leaked Dolan wanted to trade Shump.

wtf is his problem? Dude has and agenda or something? Trying to ruin the knickers si they rebuild

So I hope some reporter asks him about this tomorrow and he just shuts it down as nonsense. If he doesn't, it's on this front office I have absolutely no faith in to deal with it.

2018, y'all.

EnySpree wrote:

Clean wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Another question how does anyone but Carmelo know what he wants to do? More Stephen smoke?

Screaming A Smith has sources. He was months ahead on some big moves in the past. He has really good sources with the top guys from the Lebron draft.

He leaked Dolan wanted to trade Shump.

wtf is his problem? Dude has and agenda or something? Trying to ruin the knickers si they rebuild

Maybe it's like Chapelle said about being 20% black and 80% comedian after watching the Michael Richards meltdown. "Don't let 'em break you, Kramer!"

SAS is 10% Knicks fan, 90% NYC sports columnist. Scoops before hoops!

Clean wrote:

EnySpree wrote:

Clean wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Another question how does anyone but Carmelo know what he wants to do? More Stephen smoke?

Screaming A Smith has sources. He was months ahead on some big moves in the past. He has really good sources with the top guys from the Lebron draft.

He leaked Dolan wanted to trade Shump.

wtf is his problem? Dude has and agenda or something? Trying to ruin the knickers si they rebuild

I can't blame him for reporting the news if it is real. I would blame the people creating it.

That's the question. Unless he is in Melos head how does he know? I don't care about what the people around Melo think. What does Melo want?

gunsnewing wrote:

EnySpree wrote:

Clean wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Another question how does anyone but Carmelo know what he wants to do? More Stephen smoke?

Screaming A Smith has sources. He was months ahead on some big moves in the past. He has really good sources with the top guys from the Lebron draft.

He leaked Dolan wanted to trade Shump.

wtf is his problem? Dude has and agenda or something? Trying to ruin the knickers si they rebuild

That's what it is I think. His agenda is he knows how starved we are so he is going to **** on us for his own personal gain. He did the same thing with Lin

This is why I can't stand him

The Knicks are rebuilding? Now that's news!

Yea, SAS already walked back some of the Lin hate he put out there. It is maddening. Did SAS side with Melo vs. Lin because Melo is in his informant clique and Lin wasn't? I will never understand how players like JR and Melo would comment on another player's money and worth after they went through a strike. So now the Knicks are a "laughingstock" and Chris Smith is a Bayhawk.

My biggest takeaway is that even if this is a direct quote from yesterday, who knows what he'll say tomorrow. And why should I put any stock in anything these guys say when the box scores and standings are in black and white for all to see.

The Knicks are back!

BlueSeats wrote:

Nalod wrote:
If our pick turns into a top 5 lottery pick this stands to be as epic a failure as anything else Isiah did.

Fixed. Caving and overpaying for Melo has Isiah's consultancy written all over it.

Blue! great to see you my man. hope all is well.

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Dagger wrote:

ApophisADL wrote:Lol. Then Melo will change his mind 24 hours later.

Only way I trade Melo is for Griffin.

Chandler and Memo
For
Jordan and Griffin plus trash

That's a bad trade. I don't know what yall see in Jordan he sucks, I want nothing to do with him. Griffin is also a very flawed star if you can even call him that.

NO THANK YOU

Griffin is flawed? lets see, he is a PF who actually plays like one. He patrols the paint, rebounds very, very well, can defend his position, passes pretty darn well, can score and do so efficiently...

And people, including his team mates.. Like him..

It would be a horrible trade for the clippers..

Jordan doesn't suck, again he does what the clippers need him to do.. dunk hard, block shots, rebound and intimidate...

sorry, those guys would instantly make the knicks better. while I can't say the same thing about carmelo or chandler in LA..

Problem is that they are both 50% FT shooters, so in a tight game/play match, they become liabilities especially together
And we have no PnR PG, not even one like Sessions

gunsnewing wrote:I don't trust Stephen and his sources. This doesn't make sense. Why would Melo leave knowing that the the Knicks could trade him to basketball Siberia

I don't either but he was correct about Lin and he seems to make sense about Iman Shumpert as well...

CrushAlot wrote:

Clean wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

Clean wrote:

EnySpree wrote:

Clean wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Another question how does anyone but Carmelo know what he wants to do? More Stephen smoke?

Screaming A Smith has sources. He was months ahead on some big moves in the past. He has really good sources with the top guys from the Lebron draft.

He leaked Dolan wanted to trade Shump.

wtf is his problem? Dude has and agenda or something? Trying to ruin the knickers si they rebuild

I can't blame him for reporting the news if it is real. I would blame the people creating it.

That's the question. Unless he is in Melos head how does he know? I don't care about what the people around Melo think. What does Melo want?

The same way he knew melo wanted to join the Knicks or the Nets back during his Denver days. The same way he knew melo did not want to leave denver as a free agent(to get max money). The same way he knew Lebron, Wade and Bosh was going to the Heat months before it happened. I don't know how he figures these things out. I just know he has a good record with being correct with the stars of that draft class.

He does have a pretty good track record with these things. I think guys might talk to him and if he keeps them out of it he has the scoop. He certainly has been more reliable then Broussard. The thing about this though is there certainly is a lot of emotion around the Knicks right now and Melo could have been reacting in the moment to one of the many ridiculous things that have happened this season. Here is a question though, for those who say Melo should take less to win with this franchise, doesn't it make more sense for him to take less with a franchise that isn't dysfunctional, has a plan and is a lot closer to winning?

I can only speak for myself, but to answer your question. I don't want him to take less so we can win. I just want us to offer him less because he is not worth the max. This has nothing to do with any other factor besides what is melo actually worth. If melo was Lebron James in the same exact situation we are in now I would not mind offering him the max. Lebron is actually worth the max. Melo is a very flawed All-Star at best.

Like Gunsnewing said, the problem with melo is that he is too dumb to know a lot of things. He is too dumb to know he is not a superstar. He is too dumb to know what his faults are and to fix them. He is too dumb to know that if you really want to win you would not make your new team trade for you when they can sign you in the offseason(yes, I know we would have to cut some players like Wilson Chandler). He is too dumb to notice that ISO melo is inefficient and the hardest way to score points.

RonRon wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:I don't trust Stephen and his sources. This doesn't make sense. Why would Melo leave knowing that the the Knicks could trade him to basketball Siberia

I don't either but he was correct about Lin and he seems to make sense about Iman Shumpert as well...

Because he could do what he could have done last time? Get traded to Siberia as a rental, leave a lousy environment and re-calibrate, and be back in the mix unrestricted after? What is 30 million to a vet who finally realizes basketball careers -- even for the very talented -- don't last forever?

And if there is one thing Siberia is good for, is providing a distraction-free environment?