smackeddog wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Indiana built through the draft. Hibert hill George. It's no argument. Saying wade or Kobe are not integral pieces of chips is not worth a responce

Yeah, but you have to draft smart- look at The Cavs and Twolves over the years- they burned through a tonne of great draft picks.

Competency always matters. As much as I've disagreed with most of the picks we've made (e.g. who we selected or where they were selected), we've consistently managed to get serviceable players. It's one of the few things that I think our management could do without utterly screwing things up. Hell, had Isiah just kept our picks and tanked, we'd be having a much different discussion about him and our team. A few years ago, I did a "what if" post about that and found that our starting lineup could've looked like this in just 3 years: (PG)Deron Williams/CP3, (SG) Kevin Martin, (SF) Josh Smith and Wilson Chandler, (PF) LaMArcus Aldridge and (C) Joakim Noah. This could've been a title contender and our team for a decade because all these guys are still playing at a high level.

NardDogNation wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Indiana built through the draft. Hibert hill George. It's no argument. Saying wade or Kobe are not integral pieces of chips is not worth a responce

Yeah, but you have to draft smart- look at The Cavs and Twolves over the years- they burned through a tonne of great draft picks.

Competency always matters. As much as I've disagreed with most of the picks we've made (e.g. who we selected or where they were selected), we've consistently managed to get serviceable players. It's one of the few things that I think our management could do without utterly screwing things up.

The more I think about the Cavs, the more annoyed I get- they have wasted two great draft picks on players everyone said were picked way too high even at the time. Apparently they use some metrics system to chose players- methinks they need to steal a better metrics programme!

NardDogNation wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

playa2 wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

playa2 wrote:I'm still trying to figure out , why do you guys think James Dolan plan is to win an NBA Championship ?

All these trades and plans are for team who's goal and passion is to win a title. When has Mills or James Dolan give you just a glimpse of that possibility ?

This is not every owners goal to win it all, NY just so happen to be one of them.

If they interviewed every owner and ask them what is your goal and plan to win an NBA title most fans would be upset.

They do stand to make more money the longer their teams are in the playoffs. I'm not sure why Dolan would be uninterested in building a real contender if a title run is profitable.

Huh, why do think LA Clippers owner went yrs without making the playoffs and made much money hand over fist. He tickled the fans ears with high draft choices(giving them false hope) and then got rid of them when it was time to pay them more than the rookie contract. SMH

Sterling is a cheapskate. Dolan spent $100 million, multiple times on a lottery team. There is a big difference between both men and I think Dolan geniunely wants to win.

Dolan will spend the money necessary for a big shakeup. He knows it sparks a 1-2 year surge in interest (that is, money) from the millions of NYC fans who are desperate homers. That doesn't mean he wants to win a championship. It just means he knows he can turn a big immediate profit.

Fair point but I'd have to think that sustained success would better benefit his bottom line. When we first acquired Melo, didn't the valuation of the Knicks and Knick-related assets jump $200 million? If that was the case, imagine things if we were a perennial contender and made periodic shakeups. We'd far and away be the most valuable commodity in pro sports considering the global appeal of the game as well.

It would take more patience to do that. You wouldn't see flashy moves that bring in $200 mil overnight. The Knicks are owned by a mega corporation with shareholders to answer to. These are shareholders who want to stock to go up right now, not people who will wait through a few years of financial losses just to see an NBA team they don't care about contend for a title.

BigDaddyG wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Indiana built through the draft. Hibert hill George. It's no argument. Saying wade or Kobe are not integral pieces of chips is not worth a responce

Yeah, but you have to draft smart- look at The Cavs and Twolves over the years- they burned through a tonne of great draft picks.

Competency always matters. As much as I've disagreed with most of the picks we've made (e.g. who we selected or where they were selected), we've consistently managed to get serviceable players. It's one of the few things that I think our management could do without utterly screwing things up.

The more I think about the Cavs, the more annoyed I get- they have wasted two great draft picks on players everyone said were picked way too high even at the time. Apparently they use some metrics system to chose players- methinks they need to steal a better metrics programme!

There were a few draft raters that had Tristan as a top 5 pick. He'll never be a star, but at least he looks like a legitimate NBA player. The Bennett pick on the other hand...even you believe he can play, and I still do, I never thought he was ready to become an NBA level swingman this year. That draft was weak at small forward and the Cavs reached big time. If they were feeling that shaky about thepick, they should've just taken Dipo.

They should've taken Oladipo anyway because he's the best player in the draft. But they didn't because they already have the immortal Dion Waiters... who they're trying to trade a dozen games into the season.