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NardDogNation
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10/12/2013  9:44 PM
Finestrg wrote:Like what I've seen from CDR so far. He's easily the most talented offensive player we've put out on the floor tonight beside Bargnani. Yet, when he's got time, he hasn't forced anything at all. Content just to move the ball and hit the open man. I would hate to think that he's on the outside looking in. He really should be an automatic to make this team on his track record alone..

I like him too but he's redundant. I think he'll get the axe for it because Murry does what he does and can orchestrate.
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10/12/2013  9:44 PM
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Finestrg wrote:I love Diogu's game. It ain't pretty but it's extremely effective. Just relentless inside. A bull in a china shop. Just knows how to put the ball in the hoop. Knows how to get to the line too and he hits his FTs. Throw in the little jumper from mid-range he's also got -- he's impressive...Powell's impressed with the several blocked shots but I don't know what to tell you guys -- Diogu's the better player. I've got him ahead of Powell.

Diogu is playing the role I wish Malik rose had played.

Good comparison.
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10/12/2013  9:44 PM
nixluva wrote:Murry over Leslie is starting to look like the right move. I really liked the promise of Leslie, but I just don't see where he fits at all.

If the NBA really wants to use the NBDL as a minor league system, they need to start by allowing teams to store these min. contract guys without it counting against their roster spots.
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10/12/2013  9:44 PM    LAST EDITED: 10/12/2013  9:45 PM
Case and point, Hardaway is a TERRIBLE defender.
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10/12/2013  9:45 PM    LAST EDITED: 10/12/2013  9:52 PM
nixluva wrote:Murry over Leslie is starting to look like the right move. I really liked the promise of Leslie, but I just don't see where he fits at all.

Yeah, Leslie's game is less polished than Ariza's was when we drafted him. That's bad, since Ariza left as a freshman. Leslie has the athletic talent to make it work, but it's going to take more than 2 tears.Just tuning in the game now. It looks like Murray is scoring, but his assists are low. Ike looks like a beast. The dude was always an NBA player. Injuries just derailed him.

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10/12/2013  9:46 PM    LAST EDITED: 10/12/2013  9:48 PM
GustavBahler wrote:
Finestrg wrote:I love Diogu's game. It ain't pretty but it's extremely effective. Just relentless inside. A bull in a china shop. Just knows how to put the ball in the hoop. Knows how to get to the line too and he hits his FTs. Throw in the little jumper from mid-range he's also got -- he's impressive...Powell's impressed with the several blocked shots but I don't know what to tell you guys -- Diogu's the better player. I've got him ahead of Powell.

Diogu is playing the role I wish Malik rose had played.

I wish we would've acquired him years ago. All he needed was a home to develop his game. He's lost ALOT of athleticism though.
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10/12/2013  9:47 PM
I honestly believe I'm a better ball player than Chris Smith. I'm not embellishing either.
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10/12/2013  9:48 PM
NardDogNation wrote:
Finestrg wrote:Like what I've seen from CDR so far. He's easily the most talented offensive player we've put out on the floor tonight beside Bargnani. Yet, when he's got time, he hasn't forced anything at all. Content just to move the ball and hit the open man. I would hate to think that he's on the outside looking in. He really should be an automatic to make this team on his track record alone..

I like him too but he's redundant. I think he'll get the axe for it because Murry does what he does and can orchestrate.

I don't think Woody's feeling him. He's out again after only limited run. Feels like he's just inserted until THJ done getting a rest. Ashame because CDR doesn't have a damn thing to prove to anyone. The man's not a guy that should be fighting for a spot on an NBA roster with a bunch of rookies, no names and has beens. The man is a legit NBA rotation player, hands down.
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10/12/2013  9:49 PM
MaTT4281 wrote:
nixluva wrote:Murry over Leslie is starting to look like the right move. I really liked the promise of Leslie, but I just don't see where he fits at all.

If the NBA really wants to use the NBDL as a minor league system, they need to start by allowing teams to store these min. contract guys without it counting against their roster spots.

I agree that the NBA is doing a terrible job of bringing the NBDL into a more useful place as a minor league. The model is already there for them with Baseball but they are super slow to adopt that type of farm system.
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10/12/2013  9:49 PM
NardDogNation wrote:I honestly believe I'm a better ball player than Chris Smith. I'm not embellishing either.

Haha I used to say the same thing about Brian Scalabrine.
Chris Smith really is bad though
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10/12/2013  9:50 PM
Finestrg wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:
Finestrg wrote:Like what I've seen from CDR so far. He's easily the most talented offensive player we've put out on the floor tonight beside Bargnani. Yet, when he's got time, he hasn't forced anything at all. Content just to move the ball and hit the open man. I would hate to think that he's on the outside looking in. He really should be an automatic to make this team on his track record alone..

I like him too but he's redundant. I think he'll get the axe for it because Murry does what he does and can orchestrate.

I don't think Woody's feeling him. He's out again after only limited run. Feels like he's just inserted until THJ done getting a rest. Ashame because CDR doesn't have a damn thing to prove to anyone. The man's not a guy that should be fighting for a spot on an NBA roster with a bunch of rookies, no names and has beens. The man is a legit NBA rotation player, hands down.

I agree. It always amazes me how many quality players don't find a home in the NBA.
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10/12/2013  9:52 PM
TeamBall wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:I honestly believe I'm a better ball player than Chris Smith. I'm not embellishing either.

Haha I used to say the same thing about Brian Scalabrine.
Chris Smith really is bad though

At least Scalabrine could shoot. Smith literally has no skill.
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10/12/2013  9:53 PM
I see no advantage in letting all bench players and non NBA players to play an entire game and expect them to play well.

To me all it does is make them feel like bench players the way they are getting their heads handed to them.

If nay of these guys make the team they will never be the main player on the court, but will always have better players to play with.

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10/12/2013  9:55 PM
nixluva wrote:
MaTT4281 wrote:
nixluva wrote:Murry over Leslie is starting to look like the right move. I really liked the promise of Leslie, but I just don't see where he fits at all.

If the NBA really wants to use the NBDL as a minor league system, they need to start by allowing teams to store these min. contract guys without it counting against their roster spots.

I agree that the NBA is doing a terrible job of bringing the NBDL into a more useful place as a minor league. The model is already there for them with Baseball but they are super slow to adopt that type of farm system.


They should set it up in emerging markets in Europe (e.g. England). They could make bank over there, which should give the league more traction than here.
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10/12/2013  9:58 PM
NardDogNation wrote:
nixluva wrote:
MaTT4281 wrote:
nixluva wrote:Murry over Leslie is starting to look like the right move. I really liked the promise of Leslie, but I just don't see where he fits at all.

If the NBA really wants to use the NBDL as a minor league system, they need to start by allowing teams to store these min. contract guys without it counting against their roster spots.

I agree that the NBA is doing a terrible job of bringing the NBDL into a more useful place as a minor league. The model is already there for them with Baseball but they are super slow to adopt that type of farm system.


They should set it up in emerging markets in Europe (e.g. England). They could make bank over there, which should give the league more traction than here.

I'd think that would be too difficult on the players; set up a home in a different country, and should you be lucky enough to be called up, have to uproot your family? Not quite the same as moving from PA to NY.
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10/12/2013  9:59 PM
WOW for the 1st time I see Leslie show some gumption. I like that aggressive drive.
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10/12/2013  10:00 PM
Tim seems to be as streaky as Shump and JR.
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10/12/2013  10:01 PM
The game has looked a little too fast for Murry at times, typical rookie growing pains. THJ needs to elevate more on his jumper.
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10/12/2013  10:03 PM
MaTT4281 wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:
nixluva wrote:
MaTT4281 wrote:
nixluva wrote:Murry over Leslie is starting to look like the right move. I really liked the promise of Leslie, but I just don't see where he fits at all.

If the NBA really wants to use the NBDL as a minor league system, they need to start by allowing teams to store these min. contract guys without it counting against their roster spots.

I agree that the NBA is doing a terrible job of bringing the NBDL into a more useful place as a minor league. The model is already there for them with Baseball but they are super slow to adopt that type of farm system.


They should set it up in emerging markets in Europe (e.g. England). They could make bank over there, which should give the league more traction than here.

I'd think that would be too difficult on the players; set up a home in a different country, and should you be lucky enough to be called up, have to uproot your family? Not quite the same as moving from PA to NY.


That's assuming they have families. I think if you haven't made a name for yourself in the league by the time you're 28, you're wasting your time. I don't think many guys have a family by 28, so no harm no foul. I'd personally love to live in Europe but everyone's different I suppose.
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10/12/2013  10:04 PM
Well, this was embarrassing.
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