Bonn1997 wrote:

Papabear wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:How come when Melo is looking to improve his game, it's always things related to scoring only?

Papabear Says

Wrong! That's just your opinion. And your opinion about Melo is never positive. If Melo left the Knicks today or tomorrow or a season ending injury we would be a lottery team with no picks. Would that make you happy?

What's wrong or inaccurate? I've definitely given Melo credit for the positive things he does. He's a scoring specialist (positive) who is below average in all other phases of the game.
And, no, I don't want any human being to have a season ending injury.

Papabear Says

Do you agree that if Melo left the team today or tomorrow we would probably be a Lottery team with no picks??

Papabear wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Papabear wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:How come when Melo is looking to improve his game, it's always things related to scoring only?

Papabear Says

Wrong! That's just your opinion. And your opinion about Melo is never positive. If Melo left the Knicks today or tomorrow or a season ending injury we would be a lottery team with no picks. Would that make you happy?

What's wrong or inaccurate? I've definitely given Melo credit for the positive things he does. He's a scoring specialist (positive) who is below average in all other phases of the game.
And, no, I don't want any human being to have a season ending injury.

Papabear Says

Do you agree that if Melo left the team today or tomorrow we would probably be a Lottery team with no picks??

Bonn1997 wrote:How come when Melo is looking to improve his game, it's always things related to scoring only?

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Bonn1997 wrote:

Papabear wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Papabear wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:How come when Melo is looking to improve his game, it's always things related to scoring only?

Papabear Says

Wrong! That's just your opinion. And your opinion about Melo is never positive. If Melo left the Knicks today or tomorrow or a season ending injury we would be a lottery team with no picks. Would that make you happy?

What's wrong or inaccurate? I've definitely given Melo credit for the positive things he does. He's a scoring specialist (positive) who is below average in all other phases of the game.
And, no, I don't want any human being to have a season ending injury.

Papabear Says

Do you agree that if Melo left the team today or tomorrow we would probably be a Lottery team with no picks??

Left as in being waived or losing him for nothing? I've never advocated for that happening. As a scoring specialist, he does have an important role. To answer your question, I think we'd at least be an 8th seed though (.463 winning percentage last year). Probably better.

Bonn why don't you stop it! Melo is the best man on the team and if you think they will be an 8th place playoff team , who picks up the slack?? who is the guy to lead us to the playoffs if Melo was gone??

Papabear wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Papabear wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Papabear wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:How come when Melo is looking to improve his game, it's always things related to scoring only?

Papabear Says

Wrong! That's just your opinion. And your opinion about Melo is never positive. If Melo left the Knicks today or tomorrow or a season ending injury we would be a lottery team with no picks. Would that make you happy?

What's wrong or inaccurate? I've definitely given Melo credit for the positive things he does. He's a scoring specialist (positive) who is below average in all other phases of the game.
And, no, I don't want any human being to have a season ending injury.

Papabear Says

Do you agree that if Melo left the team today or tomorrow we would probably be a Lottery team with no picks??

Left as in being waived or losing him for nothing? I've never advocated for that happening. As a scoring specialist, he does have an important role. To answer your question, I think we'd at least be an 8th seed though (.463 winning percentage last year). Probably better.

Papabear Says

Bonn why don't you stop it! Melo is the best man on the team and if you think they will be an 8th place playoff team , who picks up the slack?? who is the guy to lead us to the playoffs if Melo was gone??

Papabear wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Papabear wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Papabear wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Papabear wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:How come when Melo is looking to improve his game, it's always things related to scoring only?

Papabear Says

Wrong! That's just your opinion. And your opinion about Melo is never positive. If Melo left the Knicks today or tomorrow or a season ending injury we would be a lottery team with no picks. Would that make you happy?

What's wrong or inaccurate? I've definitely given Melo credit for the positive things he does. He's a scoring specialist (positive) who is below average in all other phases of the game.
And, no, I don't want any human being to have a season ending injury.

Papabear Says

Do you agree that if Melo left the team today or tomorrow we would probably be a Lottery team with no picks??

Left as in being waived or losing him for nothing? I've never advocated for that happening. As a scoring specialist, he does have an important role. To answer your question, I think we'd at least be an 8th seed though (.463 winning percentage last year). Probably better.

Papabear Says

Bonn why don't you stop it! Melo is the best man on the team and if you think they will be an 8th place playoff team , who picks up the slack?? who is the guy to lead us to the playoffs if Melo was gone??

Why don't you become a little more tolerant? Per 48 min last year, the Yankees were plus 1.3 when Melo was off the floor (and 6.0 with him on it). So although he helped the team, they were still better than their opponents when he was out. That really shouldn't be surprising. The team has a number of solid (but not great) players.

Papabear Says

If Melo opps out of his contract next season every other teams in the NBA will be trying to get him. Melo is a star. A great player who Lebron said he would love to play with and Kobe also. Why is this. Your judgement of Melo is built on hate not facts.You and the rest of your crew pull up stats numbers as though that's the true facts that people must go on and it's bull sh!!. At least I go to about 10 -12 games per season and support my team while you sit back and complain all season with nothing positive to say. You have many teams in the NBA who never won a championship and never made it to the finals and never won 54 games. Enjoy the moment man. Enjoy Melo because he will retire a Knick and you can bank on that. So you better prepare to be miserable for a while.

But this simple fact suggest that guys can cover his work for stretches, they did it 15 games last season, and even a few of those losses were extremely close....like that OKC loss at the Garden.

the team had guys who could step up, to deny that is just as bad.

CrushAlot wrote:

knickscity wrote:

Papabear wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Papabear wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Papabear wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Papabear wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:How come when Melo is looking to improve his game, it's always things related to scoring only?

Papabear Says

Wrong! That's just your opinion. And your opinion about Melo is never positive. If Melo left the Knicks today or tomorrow or a season ending injury we would be a lottery team with no picks. Would that make you happy?

What's wrong or inaccurate? I've definitely given Melo credit for the positive things he does. He's a scoring specialist (positive) who is below average in all other phases of the game.
And, no, I don't want any human being to have a season ending injury.

Papabear Says

Do you agree that if Melo left the team today or tomorrow we would probably be a Lottery team with no picks??

Left as in being waived or losing him for nothing? I've never advocated for that happening. As a scoring specialist, he does have an important role. To answer your question, I think we'd at least be an 8th seed though (.463 winning percentage last year). Probably better.

Papabear Says

Bonn why don't you stop it! Melo is the best man on the team and if you think they will be an 8th place playoff team , who picks up the slack?? who is the guy to lead us to the playoffs if Melo was gone??

Why don't you become a little more tolerant? Per 48 min last year, the Yankees were plus 1.3 when Melo was off the floor (and 6.0 with him on it). So although he helped the team, they were still better than their opponents when he was out. That really shouldn't be surprising. The team has a number of solid (but not great) players.

Papabear Says

If Melo opps out of his contract next season every other teams in the NBA will be trying to get him. Melo is a star. A great player who Lebron said he would love to play with and Kobe also. Why is this. Your judgement of Melo is built on hate not facts.You and the rest of your crew pull up stats numbers as though that's the true facts that people must go on and it's bull sh!!. At least I go to about 10 -12 games per season and support my team while you sit back and complain all season with nothing positive to say. You have many teams in the NBA who never won a championship and never made it to the finals and never won 54 games. Enjoy the moment man. Enjoy Melo because he will retire a Knick and you can bank on that. So you better prepare to be miserable for a while.

All he said was the team had a winning record even when melo didnt play, obviously he makes the club better on the court.

But this simple fact suggest that guys can cover his work for stretches, they did it 15 games last season, and even a few of those losses were extremely close....like that OKC loss at the Garden.

the team had guys who could step up, to deny that is just as bad.

The Knicks were 7-8 without Melo. Victories when he was out were against the Cavs, Suns, Jazz twice, Pistons and the Hawks in the last game of the season. Not a really an assortment of quality opponents. Only one of those teams wasn't a lottery team and that game was the last of the season. Can't remember if the Hawks were resting guys.

CrushAlot wrote:

knickscity wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

knickscity wrote:

Papabear wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Papabear wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Papabear wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Papabear wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:How come when Melo is looking to improve his game, it's always things related to scoring only?

Papabear Says

Wrong! That's just your opinion. And your opinion about Melo is never positive. If Melo left the Knicks today or tomorrow or a season ending injury we would be a lottery team with no picks. Would that make you happy?

What's wrong or inaccurate? I've definitely given Melo credit for the positive things he does. He's a scoring specialist (positive) who is below average in all other phases of the game.
And, no, I don't want any human being to have a season ending injury.

Papabear Says

Do you agree that if Melo left the team today or tomorrow we would probably be a Lottery team with no picks??

Left as in being waived or losing him for nothing? I've never advocated for that happening. As a scoring specialist, he does have an important role. To answer your question, I think we'd at least be an 8th seed though (.463 winning percentage last year). Probably better.

Papabear Says

Bonn why don't you stop it! Melo is the best man on the team and if you think they will be an 8th place playoff team , who picks up the slack?? who is the guy to lead us to the playoffs if Melo was gone??

Why don't you become a little more tolerant? Per 48 min last year, the Yankees were plus 1.3 when Melo was off the floor (and 6.0 with him on it). So although he helped the team, they were still better than their opponents when he was out. That really shouldn't be surprising. The team has a number of solid (but not great) players.

Papabear Says

If Melo opps out of his contract next season every other teams in the NBA will be trying to get him. Melo is a star. A great player who Lebron said he would love to play with and Kobe also. Why is this. Your judgement of Melo is built on hate not facts.You and the rest of your crew pull up stats numbers as though that's the true facts that people must go on and it's bull sh!!. At least I go to about 10 -12 games per season and support my team while you sit back and complain all season with nothing positive to say. You have many teams in the NBA who never won a championship and never made it to the finals and never won 54 games. Enjoy the moment man. Enjoy Melo because he will retire a Knick and you can bank on that. So you better prepare to be miserable for a while.

All he said was the team had a winning record even when melo didnt play, obviously he makes the club better on the court.

But this simple fact suggest that guys can cover his work for stretches, they did it 15 games last season, and even a few of those losses were extremely close....like that OKC loss at the Garden.

the team had guys who could step up, to deny that is just as bad.

The Knicks were 7-8 without Melo. Victories when he was out were against the Cavs, Suns, Jazz twice, Pistons and the Hawks in the last game of the season. Not a really an assortment of quality opponents. Only one of those teams wasn't a lottery team and that game was the last of the season. Can't remember if the Hawks were resting guys.

Did you conveniently leave Miami off the list?

Nope. I forgot about Miami. Miami and 6 wins against lottery teams doesn't prove guys can cover for Melo in stretches in my opinion.

No one is saying the team can win as much without him, obviously they couldnt, but the proof is there they can win some games without him.

Wins WIITHOUT your best player ALWAYS proves something.

knickscity wrote:

Papabear wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Papabear wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Papabear wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Papabear wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:How come when Melo is looking to improve his game, it's always things related to scoring only?

Papabear Says

Wrong! That's just your opinion. And your opinion about Melo is never positive. If Melo left the Knicks today or tomorrow or a season ending injury we would be a lottery team with no picks. Would that make you happy?

What's wrong or inaccurate? I've definitely given Melo credit for the positive things he does. He's a scoring specialist (positive) who is below average in all other phases of the game.
And, no, I don't want any human being to have a season ending injury.

Papabear Says

Do you agree that if Melo left the team today or tomorrow we would probably be a Lottery team with no picks??

Left as in being waived or losing him for nothing? I've never advocated for that happening. As a scoring specialist, he does have an important role. To answer your question, I think we'd at least be an 8th seed though (.463 winning percentage last year). Probably better.

Papabear Says

Bonn why don't you stop it! Melo is the best man on the team and if you think they will be an 8th place playoff team , who picks up the slack?? who is the guy to lead us to the playoffs if Melo was gone??

Why don't you become a little more tolerant? Per 48 min last year, the Yankees were plus 1.3 when Melo was off the floor (and 6.0 with him on it). So although he helped the team, they were still better than their opponents when he was out. That really shouldn't be surprising. The team has a number of solid (but not great) players.

Papabear Says

If Melo opps out of his contract next season every other teams in the NBA will be trying to get him. Melo is a star. A great player who Lebron said he would love to play with and Kobe also. Why is this. Your judgement of Melo is built on hate not facts.You and the rest of your crew pull up stats numbers as though that's the true facts that people must go on and it's bull sh!!. At least I go to about 10 -12 games per season and support my team while you sit back and complain all season with nothing positive to say. You have many teams in the NBA who never won a championship and never made it to the finals and never won 54 games. Enjoy the moment man. Enjoy Melo because he will retire a Knick and you can bank on that. So you better prepare to be miserable for a while.

All he said was the team had a winning record even when melo didnt play, obviously he makes the club better on the court.

CrushAlot wrote:

knickscity wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

knickscity wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

knickscity wrote:

Papabear wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Papabear wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Papabear wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Papabear wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:How come when Melo is looking to improve his game, it's always things related to scoring only?

Papabear Says

Wrong! That's just your opinion. And your opinion about Melo is never positive. If Melo left the Knicks today or tomorrow or a season ending injury we would be a lottery team with no picks. Would that make you happy?

What's wrong or inaccurate? I've definitely given Melo credit for the positive things he does. He's a scoring specialist (positive) who is below average in all other phases of the game.
And, no, I don't want any human being to have a season ending injury.

Papabear Says

Do you agree that if Melo left the team today or tomorrow we would probably be a Lottery team with no picks??

Left as in being waived or losing him for nothing? I've never advocated for that happening. As a scoring specialist, he does have an important role. To answer your question, I think we'd at least be an 8th seed though (.463 winning percentage last year). Probably better.

Papabear Says

Bonn why don't you stop it! Melo is the best man on the team and if you think they will be an 8th place playoff team , who picks up the slack?? who is the guy to lead us to the playoffs if Melo was gone??

Why don't you become a little more tolerant? Per 48 min last year, the Yankees were plus 1.3 when Melo was off the floor (and 6.0 with him on it). So although he helped the team, they were still better than their opponents when he was out. That really shouldn't be surprising. The team has a number of solid (but not great) players.

Papabear Says

If Melo opps out of his contract next season every other teams in the NBA will be trying to get him. Melo is a star. A great player who Lebron said he would love to play with and Kobe also. Why is this. Your judgement of Melo is built on hate not facts.You and the rest of your crew pull up stats numbers as though that's the true facts that people must go on and it's bull sh!!. At least I go to about 10 -12 games per season and support my team while you sit back and complain all season with nothing positive to say. You have many teams in the NBA who never won a championship and never made it to the finals and never won 54 games. Enjoy the moment man. Enjoy Melo because he will retire a Knick and you can bank on that. So you better prepare to be miserable for a while.

All he said was the team had a winning record even when melo didnt play, obviously he makes the club better on the court.

But this simple fact suggest that guys can cover his work for stretches, they did it 15 games last season, and even a few of those losses were extremely close....like that OKC loss at the Garden.

the team had guys who could step up, to deny that is just as bad.

The Knicks were 7-8 without Melo. Victories when he was out were against the Cavs, Suns, Jazz twice, Pistons and the Hawks in the last game of the season. Not a really an assortment of quality opponents. Only one of those teams wasn't a lottery team and that game was the last of the season. Can't remember if the Hawks were resting guys.

Did you conveniently leave Miami off the list?

Nope. I forgot about Miami. Miami and 6 wins against lottery teams doesn't prove guys can cover for Melo in stretches in my opinion.

Sure it does, because thats exactly what they did, that record and + rating absolutely proves that could hold things down in a short interval.

No one is saying the team can win as much without him, obviously they couldnt, but the proof is there they can win some games without him.

Wins WIITHOUT your best player ALWAYS proves something.

They can win some games without him. They won against lottery bound teams and had one win against the Heat. Wizards and Pistons also beat the Heat.

Papabear wrote:

knickscity wrote:

Papabear wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Papabear wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Papabear wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Papabear wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:How come when Melo is looking to improve his game, it's always things related to scoring only?

Papabear Says

Wrong! That's just your opinion. And your opinion about Melo is never positive. If Melo left the Knicks today or tomorrow or a season ending injury we would be a lottery team with no picks. Would that make you happy?

What's wrong or inaccurate? I've definitely given Melo credit for the positive things he does. He's a scoring specialist (positive) who is below average in all other phases of the game.
And, no, I don't want any human being to have a season ending injury.

Papabear Says

Do you agree that if Melo left the team today or tomorrow we would probably be a Lottery team with no picks??

Left as in being waived or losing him for nothing? I've never advocated for that happening. As a scoring specialist, he does have an important role. To answer your question, I think we'd at least be an 8th seed though (.463 winning percentage last year). Probably better.

Papabear Says

Bonn why don't you stop it! Melo is the best man on the team and if you think they will be an 8th place playoff team , who picks up the slack?? who is the guy to lead us to the playoffs if Melo was gone??

Why don't you become a little more tolerant? Per 48 min last year, the Yankees were plus 1.3 when Melo was off the floor (and 6.0 with him on it). So although he helped the team, they were still better than their opponents when he was out. That really shouldn't be surprising. The team has a number of solid (but not great) players.

Papabear Says

If Melo opps out of his contract next season every other teams in the NBA will be trying to get him. Melo is a star. A great player who Lebron said he would love to play with and Kobe also. Why is this. Your judgement of Melo is built on hate not facts.You and the rest of your crew pull up stats numbers as though that's the true facts that people must go on and it's bull sh!!. At least I go to about 10 -12 games per season and support my team while you sit back and complain all season with nothing positive to say. You have many teams in the NBA who never won a championship and never made it to the finals and never won 54 games. Enjoy the moment man. Enjoy Melo because he will retire a Knick and you can bank on that. So you better prepare to be miserable for a while.

All he said was the team had a winning record even when melo didnt play, obviously he makes the club better on the court.

But this simple fact suggest that guys can cover his work for stretches, they did it 15 games last season, and even a few of those losses were extremely close....like that OKC loss at the Garden.

the team had guys who could step up, to deny that is just as bad.

Papabear Says

Come on how long would that have last?

No one is suggesting a whole season without him.