earthmansurfer wrote:

EnySpree wrote:I just have a feeling a trade is in the works....the knicks are only working with minimum money so if they wanted to sign someone they would have done it....maybe they are waiting on a deal

Judging the stupidity of the franchise, I'd say it is with Shump...

We just have to see so far grunwald has been doing a great job with the team.

EnySpree wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:

EnySpree wrote:I just have a feeling a trade is in the works....the knicks are only working with minimum money so if they wanted to sign someone they would have done it....maybe they are waiting on a deal

Judging the stupidity of the franchise, I'd say it is with Shump...

We just have to see so far grunwald has been doing a great job with the team.

Just a thought. I don't want this to be true, but given all the issues he has had with management would anyone be surprised if it was Shump? And looking past that, should they trade him given the fact that all this drama around him, will he resign here??

EnySpree wrote:The drama around Shump is media driven....

The truth is Shump is our biggest trade chip. The knicks are trying to get better so if a trade came along that made us better then Shump will be gone. Shooting guard spot is taken care of at the present moment. Tim Hardaway jr and jr smith can handle it just fine.

If we can get a better PG than Felton, then I'd say that changes things for us in a big way. Wish we held on to Lin as he was a great 2nd option scoring the ball and smart upstairs. Anyway, if we can get a significantly better PG than Felton, I could see them trading Shump. Not that I agree with that...

However, of all the players that we will look to sign, one at least one player cannot get a guaranteed deal, just for the sake of having the ability to pick up someone that goes on waivers, and WANTS TO go to the Knick's

So with one of these players, at least 1 has to get the unguaranteed 2 year team option deal, while with 1 we can afford to sweeten the deal

Bobby Brown
Murry

Tyler

CJ Leslie

As for CJ Leslie, I am starting to think that we are better off developing another player as Leslie will take over a year before his body fills out and he can contribute
Had we used part of the MINI MLE on him, we could have locked him on a to a 3 year deal at min cost, but for 2 years, I just don't know if it is going to be enough
With the addition of MWP and Melo, they both are not real SF's, and we need legit REAL SF's that are athletic and skilled in about all area's, especially a better defender with speed
There are still plenty of players in D League and even UFA's, but I think we should look to send CJ LESLIE to the Erning Bayhawks like Chris Smith, and have him develop there for 1-2 years

D League/Summer League
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CDR
Dwayne Davis
Malcom Thomas (he is technically on the Bulls but not sure if he is guaranteed a spot especially with the addition on Dunleavy to their already logged positions at G/F)
Thompson (Klay's brother he was on here last summer but looks improved this year)
Landry (Carl's brother)
Patrick Ewing JR

There are a lot of names but I can't remember any of them at the moment

UFA
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James Johnson

Stephen Jackson
John Salmons *not sure if he has cleared waivers yet, as he was amnestied*

Shawnnee Williams
Mike Miller
Linas Kleiza

Austin Daye
Alan Anderson
Terrence Williams
Donte Green
Damien Wilkins
Marquis Daniels

Hakeem Warrick
Dahntay Jones
Mickael Pietrus
DaJuan Summers
Devin Ebanks
Sam Young
Josh Howard
Ronnie Brewer

Mickael Gelabale
Luke Babbitt

Corey Maggette wonder if Maggette can still play, its been a couple years since he got consistent minutes but I remember he use to shoot a high FT % with high attempts with and always looked like he was in shape, but don't know if he can still play since he has not had a role with any team recently

RonRon wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:Jared Zwerling ‏@JaredZwerling 3m
If #Knicks offer Bobby Brown, he would likely make somewhere in the $800k range. But he told me that he would prefer Knicks over China.

Don't know what Jared Zwerling is talking about, these guy's are paid professionals and they either don't know what they are talking about or they know of a BIG DEAL coming, like Chandler/Iman Shumpert to Sun's with a large trade exemption

We cannot offer Bobby Brown more than the starting salary of the minimum with 0 years as a NBA player
At least not without our MLE that we used in Pablo and MWP or by going under the tax threshold which is pretty much impossible, by trading
In some cases if the salary traded is high enough for a TPE or 2 TPE's or more, we could get 2 exemptions to use, with one exemption of the rest of the 5m MLE, about 2m? and about 2m of Bi Annual Exemption

1- trading Tyson Chandler for a large salary exemption

2- trading Melo/Amare for some contracts and for a

3- trading Bargnani for a large trade exemption

4- trading JR Smith and Felton, I am not even sure if we can trade JR Smith right now, think we have to wait till the deadline

Brandon Jennings too technically....

Bobby Brown does have some competition

I'm very high on Bobby. I'm on the level I was on when I was begging for the knicks to sign Jeremy Lin. This dude is a diamond in the rough. He might become the starting point guard or prompt the knicks to do something to get him more floor time.

BigDaddyG wrote:

EnySpree wrote:Yeah the drew league game is going viral....knicks may have missed their opportunity to get him before he went viral with his drew league performance. It's summer ball, but ball is ball.

I'm very high on Bobby. I'm on the level I was on when I was begging for the knicks to sign Jeremy Lin. This dude is a diamond in the rough. He might become the starting point guard or prompt the knicks to do something to get him more floor time.

I wouldn't worry about Brown's Drew league performance. It sounds like he reps there every year.

pretty much....it's a mystery how talent like this doesn't get picked up. Americans go to overseas and become stars and never seen again stateside. Yet the Euro guys get drafted and signed every year in the nba. Not a racist thing, it's just annoying. The knicks gave James White a shot....yeah he failed, but he was still worth a shot given that he is a star overseas. Copeland is a star overseas. Knicks gave him a shot and he kicked ass. Bobby Brown needs his shot....There are countless other guys that were exiled from the nba that need a second shot.

EnySpree wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

EnySpree wrote:Yeah the drew league game is going viral....knicks may have missed their opportunity to get him before he went viral with his drew league performance. It's summer ball, but ball is ball.

I'm very high on Bobby. I'm on the level I was on when I was begging for the knicks to sign Jeremy Lin. This dude is a diamond in the rough. He might become the starting point guard or prompt the knicks to do something to get him more floor time.

I wouldn't worry about Brown's Drew league performance. It sounds like he reps there every year.

pretty much....it's a mystery how talent like this doesn't get picked up. Americans go to overseas and become stars and never seen again stateside. Yet the Euro guys get drafted and signed every year in the nba. Not a racist thing, it's just annoying. The knicks gave James White a shot....yeah he failed, but he was still worth a shot given that he is a star overseas. Copeland is a star overseas. Knicks gave him a shot and he kicked ass. Bobby Brown needs his shot....There are countless other guys that were exiled from the nba that need a second shot.