knicks1248 wrote:IMO Copeland was a bit of an unknown last season, which is was why he needed to play more, he really wasn't heavy on any ones scouting report..

Once he gets consistent minutes, he'll no longer get easy looks (see novak,lin, shawne) he won't be nearly as effective as he was this year...you'll see.

Name other shooters that go to other teams and get shutdown. Mike Miller didn't get shutdown unless injured. Copeland drives and posrt up and knocks down the 3, these guys aren't easy to find, this is why it was a blunder to not give him an offer. He;s not a one dimensional guy.

CashMoney wrote:

playa2 wrote:

CashMoney wrote:This board is too much. Resigning JR is terrible, Prig's new contract is terrible and now we lose Copeland and it's the end of the world!

Now Copeland turns out to be the difference maker in a series loss?

Another guy to defend would have been the difference maker. They knew they only had to worry about Melo and JR sometimes who else ? That's why they won. Their own coach said Copeland ripped their butt when Woodson allowed him in the games. Who will I listen to and believe you or the Pacer coach ???

Thanks....it is all so clear now. We didn't lose the series because we couldn't hit shots, we didn't lose game 6 because of Felton going 0-7, JR Smith going 4-15. We lost the series because Copeland didn't get more than 20 minutes a game during the series.

OMG - you argued in the same sentence that we lost because of bad shooting and keeping the one guy who making his shots and drawing attention from the defense on the bench was NOT the problem. Priceless!!!!

It's like they say New York has the most "knowledgable" fans.

holfresh wrote:Scoring in garbage time is a little different than when you are the featured player..

This isn't garbage time

None of his 3 pointers touch the rim!!!
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CrushAlot wrote:

holfresh wrote:Copeland ..The saviour we never knew..

The future of guys that leave is always so bright. The future of the guys that stay is so bleak and their contracts are always too long and compromise the cap. And the picks, next years 59th pick is surely a star.

Not saying he is a star Im saying he can put up the same production as Bargs if given the minutes

RonRon wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

holfresh wrote:Copeland ..The saviour we never knew..

The future of guys that leave is always so bright. The future of the guys that stay is so bleak and their contracts are always too long and compromise the cap. And the picks, next years 59th pick is surely a star.

Not saying he is a star Im saying he can put up the same production as Bargs if given the minutes

And picking Pablo vs Copeland was a poor decision
We could turn Copeland in to future asset's/picks/players, he actually has value vs a 3rd string 36 year old PG who has no value from the league
Instead we are still searching for a PG when many teams have 2-3 PG's that are better than ours when it was a BIGGEST need to upgrade this offseason

RonRon wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

holfresh wrote:Copeland ..The saviour we never knew..

The future of guys that leave is always so bright. The future of the guys that stay is so bleak and their contracts are always too long and compromise the cap. And the picks, next years 59th pick is surely a star.

Not saying he is a star Im saying he can put up the same production as Bargs if given the minutes

And picking Pablo vs Copeland was a poor decision
We could turn Copeland in to future asset's/picks/players, he actually has value vs a 3rd string 36 year old PG who has no value from the league
Instead we are still searching for a PG when many teams have 2-3 PG's that are better than ours when it was a BIGGEST need to upgrade this offseason

Do you guys honestly think the knicks are trying to win a chip, or are they staying controversial on purpose to be the talk of the town.

CrushAlot wrote:

playa2 wrote:

RonRon wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

holfresh wrote:Copeland ..The saviour we never knew..

The future of guys that leave is always so bright. The future of the guys that stay is so bleak and their contracts are always too long and compromise the cap. And the picks, next years 59th pick is surely a star.

Not saying he is a star Im saying he can put up the same production as Bargs if given the minutes

And picking Pablo vs Copeland was a poor decision
We could turn Copeland in to future asset's/picks/players, he actually has value vs a 3rd string 36 year old PG who has no value from the league
Instead we are still searching for a PG when many teams have 2-3 PG's that are better than ours when it was a BIGGEST need to upgrade this offseason

Do you guys honestly think the knicks are trying to win a chip, or are they staying controversial on purpose to be the talk of the town.

Prigs signing isn't flashy or controversial it is just smart. The Knicks seemed to plan on splitting the mmle between Cope and Prigs. Cope had been reported to be a guy that would stay if he was in a good situation rather than take more money. I think the Knicks hoped he would sign a one year deal and the Knicks could reward him once they had his early bird rights. Cope isn't a young pup. This might be his only contract so he went for the extra money. Can't blame him and the Knicks knew if they tried to split the mmle they might lose Cope. Prigs was too valuable to them to not bring him back. I think the hope and plan was to have Cope back also.

But they never put an offer on the table for him, just like they did Lin. They knew the market was going to scoop him up, there is no loyalty left in the league unless teams anty up the Benjamins.