Markji wrote:MSG3 wrote:Markji wrote:MSG3 wrote:Markji wrote:Remember, Hahn works for Newsday, which is owned by Cablevision, which also owns the Knicks. I used to respect Hahn, but these last couple of years his vision always favors management.
Wrong. He does not work for Newsday. he works for MSG. And while he has to be more of a homer now I think he still gives some fair insight.
Well, working for MSG puts him in even more of a support management position. Wouldn't u say that is correct, MSG3?P.S. As a little aside, my initials are also MSG. I still don't like this trade, mainly because I don't like getting Bargs. But since the trade is basically done and awaiting the date to finalize it, I will root whole-heartily for Bargnani. He is not a bad person nor a problem case. Just major injury prone. The big question in my mind is:
Are we getting the Bargnani from 2008 to 2011? or are we getting the Bargnani from 2012 to 2013???
You are correct. His job is to step with the company line. But I think he's more impartial then, say, Trautwig. He's more like the Knicks version of Michael Kay who tries to tell it straight.
The thing about this deal is that the Knicks don't get worse on the court and they shed 2 TERRIBLE contracts for one that expires at the same time as STATs. I totally get the frustration with getting rid of a draft pick, but to act like this is the Eddy Curry trade is freaking nuts.
I mean, if Bargnani's avg performance is what we get isn't that better than Novak and Camby?
No, I don't believe so.
First, Novak is a better 3 point shooter. He "fell off" this year to 42.5%, the highest %age on the Knicks. And he took 4.3 shots (3 pt attempts). The Knicks led the league with 3 pt attempts so a high 3 pt %age is very important. Granted Bargs is a better player but Bargs hasn't shot well in a few years. We can "Hope" he reverts to past years, but even at his best, he was never as good a shooter as Novak.Re: Camby
If we give Bargs a 2 year excuse for being bad due to injury, why can't we give Camby a 1 year excuse? The previous year Camby had an excellent year - averaging about 9 rebounds/game in only 23 min. We do need to improve in rebounding.
The problem is:
1) Novak may have had a decent percentage but I can barely remember a single game from last season - regular or post - where he operated in the flow of the game and helped us build or protect a lead. I do remember him bricking a lot of shots and getting his minutes cut.
2) Camby coming back should go down in history as one of the worst Knick signings along with E Curry, Jerome James, etc. For gods sake at least Weis got some PT - Camby rode the bench all season and didn't help us one bit when we needed him. Way to ruin a fragile legacy as a Knick - good riddance.
Now as far as Bargs goes, I don't know what to think. Seems like another risky move by the Knicks that most likely won't pay off for several reasons:
1) He has sucked lately and his team wanted to dump him
2) The Knicks have no depth, either Bargs or Stat or both will be hurt at some point this season
3) It seems like the spin is how effective pairing Bargs and Stat will be - similar to #2, Stat looks pretty done. I hope I am wrong on that.
4) We still lack a spot up shooter with lethal accuracy and consistency. Without that this team can't spread the floor which won't help things.
At least it sounds like 2015 might be more promising than we thought - who knows. I just don't want to see us waste the Melo years.
7/1/2013 4:22 PM
