Jmpasq wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

tkf wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

3G4G wrote:When the trade was made for Melo many posters said it would be easy to find replacements for players like Chandler and Gallo. We've yet to replace them 3yrs later. Now we're discussing acquiring players who'll do all the things our $20mil Superstar won't do, to help make him a better player.

THey have been replace. Its finding someone to replace Amar'e.

That's a bad excuse. Even without Amare, Melo has a more expensive, experienced supporting cast than many players in the league have.

IT wasn't an excuse. Gallo and Chandler have been replaced easily. Now on to what you are talking about please provide examples of less expensive supporting cast.

REPLACED by who? the knicks have not replaced those guy with comparable talent and or potential... please..

JR Smith alone is better than anything we traded in the Melo deal. When you consider that we've added Tyson and Iman as well, I think its fairly easy to see that we've more than replaced those guys.

I would take an injured Galo knowing he might not play next season over Jr Smith. There were 2 things I didnt like about the Melo trade. I hated that we had to take Billups back. Taking Billups back should of allowed us to keep are 2016 Draft pick which is the other part of the trade I hated.

Smith was every bit as productive (and then some) as Gallo and was paid substantially less. The better bargain is Smith for this reason.

yellowboy90 wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

3G4G wrote:When the trade was made for Melo many posters said it would be easy to find replacements for players like Chandler and Gallo. We've yet to replace them 3yrs later. Now we're discussing acquiring players who'll do all the things our $20mil Superstar won't do, to help make him a better player.

THey have been replace. Its finding someone to replace Amar'e.

That's a bad excuse. Even without Amare, Melo has a more expensive, experienced supporting cast than many players in the league have.

IT wasn't an excuse. Gallo and Chandler have been replaced easily. Now on to what you are talking about please provide examples of less expensive supporting cast.

If we've learned anything over the years, it should be that "expense" does not always directly correlate to production. We may have an expensive roster but that doesn't mean that it makes for elite production especially when ~30% of our payroll is tied into a guy that hardly plays (see Amar'e Stoudemire).

True but without Amar'e the knicks do not have an expensive roster like other teams. They have one 13 mil guy and a few 3-4 million guys.

Very good point. Either way though, the point about expense being used to justify Melo's supporting cast, while ignoring production is ridiculous.

DurzoBlint wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

3G4G wrote:When the trade was made for Melo many posters said it would be easy to find replacements for players like Chandler and Gallo. We've yet to replace them 3yrs later. Now we're discussing acquiring players who'll do all the things our $20mil Superstar won't do, to help make him a better player.

THey have been replace. Its finding someone to replace Amar'e.

That's a bad excuse. Even without Amare, Melo has a more expensive, experienced supporting cast than many players in the league have.

expensive does not equate good. His supporting cast is and has been pretty crappy. (I guess to some that comment will automatically make me a Melo lover).

Bonn1997 wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

3G4G wrote:When the trade was made for Melo many posters said it would be easy to find replacements for players like Chandler and Gallo. We've yet to replace them 3yrs later. Now we're discussing acquiring players who'll do all the things our $20mil Superstar won't do, to help make him a better player.

THey have been replace. Its finding someone to replace Amar'e.

That's a bad excuse. Even without Amare, Melo has a more expensive, experienced supporting cast than many players in the league have.

expensive does not equate good. His supporting cast is and has been pretty crappy. (I guess to some that comment will automatically make me a Melo lover).

It *should* equate good if the organization knows what it's doing. And you know Melo called it the best he ever had.

Which still doesn't equate good. Guys were gushing over Walsh before (hah) and giving Grumfeld props earlier this season (hah) but, now we have a whole lot of about faces. Wish guys would admit it!!!

Essentially you are right, it comes down to the GM and the owner.

NardDogNation wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

tkf wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

3G4G wrote:When the trade was made for Melo many posters said it would be easy to find replacements for players like Chandler and Gallo. We've yet to replace them 3yrs later. Now we're discussing acquiring players who'll do all the things our $20mil Superstar won't do, to help make him a better player.

THey have been replace. Its finding someone to replace Amar'e.

That's a bad excuse. Even without Amare, Melo has a more expensive, experienced supporting cast than many players in the league have.

IT wasn't an excuse. Gallo and Chandler have been replaced easily. Now on to what you are talking about please provide examples of less expensive supporting cast.

REPLACED by who? the knicks have not replaced those guy with comparable talent and or potential... please..

JR Smith alone is better than anything we traded in the Melo deal. When you consider that we've added Tyson and Iman as well, I think its fairly easy to see that we've more than replaced those guys.

I would take an injured Galo knowing he might not play next season over Jr Smith. There were 2 things I didnt like about the Melo trade. I hated that we had to take Billups back. Taking Billups back should of allowed us to keep are 2016 Draft pick which is the other part of the trade I hated.

Smith was every bit as productive (and then some) as Gallo and was paid substantially less. The better bargain is Smith for this reason.

Did you miss the entire post-season? I think Gallo in street clothes helped his team more than Smith did.

tkf wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

tkf wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

3G4G wrote:When the trade was made for Melo many posters said it would be easy to find replacements for players like Chandler and Gallo. We've yet to replace them 3yrs later. Now we're discussing acquiring players who'll do all the things our $20mil Superstar won't do, to help make him a better player.

THey have been replace. Its finding someone to replace Amar'e.

That's a bad excuse. Even without Amare, Melo has a more expensive, experienced supporting cast than many players in the league have.

IT wasn't an excuse. Gallo and Chandler have been replaced easily. Now on to what you are talking about please provide examples of less expensive supporting cast.

REPLACED by who? the knicks have not replaced those guy with comparable talent and or potential... please..

JR Smith had a better season offensively and rebounding the basketball than Gallo has in his career. Shumpert offers more long term than chandler. We replaced their production. Gallo has more potential than JR of course, but you are talking about a player with identical numbers the past 4 seasons so not sure we can determine there is still a ton of potential there. I would rather have gallo than JR of course, but we have similar production for 25% the cost.

gallo is a better player than JR smith... The End

In his wet dreams!

Knixkik wrote:

tkf wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

tkf wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

3G4G wrote:When the trade was made for Melo many posters said it would be easy to find replacements for players like Chandler and Gallo. We've yet to replace them 3yrs later. Now we're discussing acquiring players who'll do all the things our $20mil Superstar won't do, to help make him a better player.

THey have been replace. Its finding someone to replace Amar'e.

That's a bad excuse. Even without Amare, Melo has a more expensive, experienced supporting cast than many players in the league have.

IT wasn't an excuse. Gallo and Chandler have been replaced easily. Now on to what you are talking about please provide examples of less expensive supporting cast.

REPLACED by who? the knicks have not replaced those guy with comparable talent and or potential... please..

JR Smith had a better season offensively and rebounding the basketball than Gallo has in his career. Shumpert offers more long term than chandler. We replaced their production. Gallo has more potential than JR of course, but you are talking about a player with identical numbers the past 4 seasons so not sure we can determine there is still a ton of potential there. I would rather have gallo than JR of course, but we have similar production for 25% the cost.

gallo is a better player than JR smith... The End

Yes he is overall, but dollar for dollar and production wise he is not.

he is better in every way one can be better.... I would take gallo in street clothes over JR smith...

Denver ever since they rid themselves of carmelo and JR smith have had the best record, not in the past 10 years, not in the past 15 years, but in the history of that franchise....

“There are plenty of teams in every sport that have great players and
never win titles. Most of the time, those players aren't willing to
sacrifice for the greater good of the team. The funny thing is, in
the end, their unwillingness to sacrifice only makes individual
goals more difficult to achieve. One thing I believe to the fullest
is that if you think and achieve as a team, the individual accolades
will take care of themselves. Talent wins games, but teamwork and
intelligence win championships.”

that quote was from Michael Jordan

this is why I will always take guys like gallo, paul George, kawai leonard, Ginobili, Duncan, nash, etc over guys like carmelo and mental midgets like JR smith... yes this is why gallo is just a better ball player, He gets it... His advanced stats show his overall impact On the TEAM!!!

Alot of love for such an average player.

DurzoBlint wrote:

tkf wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

tkf wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

tkf wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

3G4G wrote:When the trade was made for Melo many posters said it would be easy to find replacements for players like Chandler and Gallo. We've yet to replace them 3yrs later. Now we're discussing acquiring players who'll do all the things our $20mil Superstar won't do, to help make him a better player.

THey have been replace. Its finding someone to replace Amar'e.

That's a bad excuse. Even without Amare, Melo has a more expensive, experienced supporting cast than many players in the league have.

IT wasn't an excuse. Gallo and Chandler have been replaced easily. Now on to what you are talking about please provide examples of less expensive supporting cast.

REPLACED by who? the knicks have not replaced those guy with comparable talent and or potential... please..

JR Smith had a better season offensively and rebounding the basketball than Gallo has in his career. Shumpert offers more long term than chandler. We replaced their production. Gallo has more potential than JR of course, but you are talking about a player with identical numbers the past 4 seasons so not sure we can determine there is still a ton of potential there. I would rather have gallo than JR of course, but we have similar production for 25% the cost.

gallo is a better player than JR smith... The End

Yes he is overall, but dollar for dollar and production wise he is not.

he is better in every way one can be better.... I would take gallo in street clothes over JR smith...

Denver ever since they rid themselves of carmelo and JR smith have had the best record, not in the past 10 years, not in the past 15 years, but in the history of that franchise....

“There are plenty of teams in every sport that have great players and
never win titles. Most of the time, those players aren't willing to
sacrifice for the greater good of the team. The funny thing is, in
the end, their unwillingness to sacrifice only makes individual
goals more difficult to achieve. One thing I believe to the fullest
is that if you think and achieve as a team, the individual accolades
will take care of themselves. Talent wins games, but teamwork and
intelligence win championships.”

that quote was from Michael Jordan

this is why I will always take guys like gallo, paul George, kawai leonard, Ginobili, Duncan, nash, etc over guys like carmelo and mental midgets like JR smith... yes this is why gallo is just a better ball player, He gets it... His advanced stats show his overall impact On the TEAM!!!

well, considering how the vast majority here seem to give the regular season no credence, and, considering their lack of success in the post season.....as far as I'm concerned, they are Knicks west coast with less drama. When Gallo leads a teams further than the 1st round, he's a mediocre as the next man and has not proven to be any better than JR when considering TEAM success.

That about sums it up. Those who view him as a successful team guy don't really have anything of substance to go by. He's a good player, nothing more nothing less.