Bonn1997 wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:I used to dog Melo but how anyone could of watched this Pacers series and blame Melo is getting drunk in the club with JR SMith

Jim is absolutely right Melo had basically no help when your 3rd best player in the series is Copeland you have serious problems .I thought Prigs actually played well though

so old man. He never has help. 10 years and no help in the playoffs. This why he shoots 40% right? Because nobody helps him? He doesnt know how to play. The harder he "tries" the more his teammates stand and watch him pound the ball while he has 10-34 shooting performances.

The guy is good player, he's our best player and he's not good enough to build a team around. He's a #2 scorer. Knicks have big problems.

U think Melo might shoot slightly better if he had Dwayne Wade and Chris Bosh next to him? Do u think Melo would Shoot better if Shaq in his prime was on the team. What about if he played with Russel Westbrook? U guys see Durant those last 2 games without any help thats what Melo deals with on a nightly basis

you nailed. Melo is garbage without his Olympic teammates. Thanks. After ten year of getting used in the playoffs and shooting like Jamal Crawford I think we can all see your truth. Melo's teams need stars on them, because if he doesnt have star PG to get him the ball, a star SG to pass too and a start post player to create space we can pretty much count on Melo shooting 40% in the playoffs while we lose game after game he puts up 10-34.

Yes... Melo had no help in game six and he played well. His shooting in the other 3 losses: 6-16, 9-24 and 10-28 had NOTHING to do with why game 6 was an elimination game right?

I get the pattern now:

Melo blows in the playoffs and shoots a % in the 30s. Melo has a solid elimination game. Everyone says "see???? Melo has no help."

Got it.

So Melo is expected to win as the only star on a team but Lebron can play with Wade and Bosh and thats acceptable

No MElo is expected to PLAY LIKE A STAR. Thats where your arguement falls short dude.

Did Durant SUCK in the playoffs? No. Did Lebron shoot 37% when he lost? No.

When Melo PERFORMS like a STAR and the Knicks lose I wont lump blame.

But when your STAR shoots a combined 58-155 in 6 playoff losses (thats 37% FGs for those at home) you LOST BECAUSE OF HIM, not be confused with losing IN SPITE OF HIM.

So pretty please, with sugar on top, what up and spare us your donkee logic. Melo played like crap and the Knicks lost. When the guy you lean on the most stinks your not going to win. End of story.

So the other 2 Stars that were brought in hold none of the blame, its all melo even though Amare and Chandler make 35 million combined. You cut those 2 losers off this team and replace them with 2 players that deserve that money my guess is Melos shooting % gets better.

He never said the other guys didn't deserve blame too. He's just saying you should stop trying to always switch the topic to them.

Jmpasq wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:I used to dog Melo but how anyone could of watched this Pacers series and blame Melo is getting drunk in the club with JR SMith

Jim is absolutely right Melo had basically no help when your 3rd best player in the series is Copeland you have serious problems .I thought Prigs actually played well though

so old man. He never has help. 10 years and no help in the playoffs. This why he shoots 40% right? Because nobody helps him? He doesnt know how to play. The harder he "tries" the more his teammates stand and watch him pound the ball while he has 10-34 shooting performances.

The guy is good player, he's our best player and he's not good enough to build a team around. He's a #2 scorer. Knicks have big problems.

U think Melo might shoot slightly better if he had Dwayne Wade and Chris Bosh next to him? Do u think Melo would Shoot better if Shaq in his prime was on the team. What about if he played with Russel Westbrook? U guys see Durant those last 2 games without any help thats what Melo deals with on a nightly basis

you nailed. Melo is garbage without his Olympic teammates. Thanks. After ten year of getting used in the playoffs and shooting like Jamal Crawford I think we can all see your truth. Melo's teams need stars on them, because if he doesnt have star PG to get him the ball, a star SG to pass too and a start post player to create space we can pretty much count on Melo shooting 40% in the playoffs while we lose game after game he puts up 10-34.

Yes... Melo had no help in game six and he played well. His shooting in the other 3 losses: 6-16, 9-24 and 10-28 had NOTHING to do with why game 6 was an elimination game right?

I get the pattern now:

Melo blows in the playoffs and shoots a % in the 30s. Melo has a solid elimination game. Everyone says "see???? Melo has no help."

Got it.

So Melo is expected to win as the only star on a team but Lebron can play with Wade and Bosh and thats acceptable

stop with lebron, when carmelo can take that cavs team to the finals, then talk.. you act as if lebron needed those guys to get far.... ever since coming into the league lebron has never lost in the first round.. he did this with no other allstars, 6th men or DPOY...... just stop it.. please..

dk7th wrote:boeheim is speaking from the "carmelo k anthony center"

LMAO you just can't make this sh!t up. he still is gargling melo's balls. dude is depraved.

Jmpasq wrote:Melo isnt as good as Lebron or Kobe so he sucks we all get it

No, Melo isn't as good as Lebron or Kobe so stop trying to build a team solely around him and what he wants. Challenge him to play both sides of the court and let a PG dictate his touches.

Jmpasq wrote:

tkf wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:I used to dog Melo but how anyone could of watched this Pacers series and blame Melo is getting drunk in the club with JR SMith

Jim is absolutely right Melo had basically no help when your 3rd best player in the series is Copeland you have serious problems .I thought Prigs actually played well though

so old man. He never has help. 10 years and no help in the playoffs. This why he shoots 40% right? Because nobody helps him? He doesnt know how to play. The harder he "tries" the more his teammates stand and watch him pound the ball while he has 10-34 shooting performances.

The guy is good player, he's our best player and he's not good enough to build a team around. He's a #2 scorer. Knicks have big problems.

U think Melo might shoot slightly better if he had Dwayne Wade and Chris Bosh next to him? Do u think Melo would Shoot better if Shaq in his prime was on the team. What about if he played with Russel Westbrook? U guys see Durant those last 2 games without any help thats what Melo deals with on a nightly basis

do you think carmelo is a better scorer than Kobe? a better shooter? I don't think so.. yet kobe had shaq in his prime and kobe is still pretty much a 45% career shooter.... like carmelo he takes a lot of bad shots.. the difference is kobe is just a much better all around player.... but having shaq didn't make him take better shots or increase his %..

the excuses are getting old for carmelo.

Has Melo ever come close to having a roster like Kobe or Lebron has? Simple question

again as I said, lebron had a cavs roster with all role players.. carmelo had billups, a young kenyon, camby, he also had iverson.. so the answer is yes....

but I ask, what does that have to do with how he performs? are you saying he needs good players to play well, then if that is the case why did we trade so much to get carmelo? the excuses are old... carmelo doesn't have the talent of a lebron or kobe.. lets start there, forget about who he plays with... you keep bringing up kobe and lebron.. so are you telling me, that carmelo is better or as good as both of those guys.. if so, I can clearly see where your problem is..

He does have great players around him. Thats his decision when he asked to be traded. Few "blame" him.

Lebron left and took less to be with his superfriends. He risked injury. Same for Bosh.

We build on Melo and he is not worthy so whose fault is that? Walsh? Nope, this is not his design. Woodson? Nope, he doing well with what he got. Grunny? I dunno, maybe?

Who hired him?

Seems to me Melo has this aura of disappointment while on some very good Denver teams also.

Jmpasq wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:I used to dog Melo but how anyone could of watched this Pacers series and blame Melo is getting drunk in the club with JR SMith

Jim is absolutely right Melo had basically no help when your 3rd best player in the series is Copeland you have serious problems .I thought Prigs actually played well though

so old man. He never has help. 10 years and no help in the playoffs. This why he shoots 40% right? Because nobody helps him? He doesnt know how to play. The harder he "tries" the more his teammates stand and watch him pound the ball while he has 10-34 shooting performances.

The guy is good player, he's our best player and he's not good enough to build a team around. He's a #2 scorer. Knicks have big problems.

U think Melo might shoot slightly better if he had Dwayne Wade and Chris Bosh next to him? Do u think Melo would Shoot better if Shaq in his prime was on the team. What about if he played with Russel Westbrook? U guys see Durant those last 2 games without any help thats what Melo deals with on a nightly basis

you nailed. Melo is garbage without his Olympic teammates. Thanks. After ten year of getting used in the playoffs and shooting like Jamal Crawford I think we can all see your truth. Melo's teams need stars on them, because if he doesnt have star PG to get him the ball, a star SG to pass too and a start post player to create space we can pretty much count on Melo shooting 40% in the playoffs while we lose game after game he puts up 10-34.

Yes... Melo had no help in game six and he played well. His shooting in the other 3 losses: 6-16, 9-24 and 10-28 had NOTHING to do with why game 6 was an elimination game right?

I get the pattern now:

Melo blows in the playoffs and shoots a % in the 30s. Melo has a solid elimination game. Everyone says "see???? Melo has no help."

Got it.

So Melo is expected to win as the only star on a team but Lebron can play with Wade and Bosh and thats acceptable

No MElo is expected to PLAY LIKE A STAR. Thats where your arguement falls short dude.

Did Durant SUCK in the playoffs? No. Did Lebron shoot 37% when he lost? No.

When Melo PERFORMS like a STAR and the Knicks lose I wont lump blame.

But when your STAR shoots a combined 58-155 in 6 playoff losses (thats 37% FGs for those at home) you LOST BECAUSE OF HIM, not be confused with losing IN SPITE OF HIM.

So pretty please, with sugar on top, what up and spare us your donkee logic. Melo played like crap and the Knicks lost. When the guy you lean on the most stinks your not going to win. End of story.

So the other 2 Stars that were brought in hold none of the blame, its all melo even though Amare and Chandler make 35 million combined. You cut those 2 losers off this team and replace them with 2 players that deserve that money my guess is Melos shooting % gets better.

He never said the other guys didn't deserve blame too. He's just saying you should stop trying to always switch the topic to them.

Switch the topic the topic is the Knicks u guys just try to make it about Melo. The fact is u pull Melo off the roster its not a playoff team.

great!! sign me up.. we save 20mil in cap space, and have a shot at a nice lottery pick and hopefully run across a Paul george type of talent... I will take that instead of first round exits.... one step back to take two steps forward... sign me up anytime!

dk7th wrote:

tkf wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:

tkf wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:I used to dog Melo but how anyone could of watched this Pacers series and blame Melo is getting drunk in the club with JR SMith

Jim is absolutely right Melo had basically no help when your 3rd best player in the series is Copeland you have serious problems .I thought Prigs actually played well though

so old man. He never has help. 10 years and no help in the playoffs. This why he shoots 40% right? Because nobody helps him? He doesnt know how to play. The harder he "tries" the more his teammates stand and watch him pound the ball while he has 10-34 shooting performances.

The guy is good player, he's our best player and he's not good enough to build a team around. He's a #2 scorer. Knicks have big problems.

U think Melo might shoot slightly better if he had Dwayne Wade and Chris Bosh next to him? Do u think Melo would Shoot better if Shaq in his prime was on the team. What about if he played with Russel Westbrook? U guys see Durant those last 2 games without any help thats what Melo deals with on a nightly basis

do you think carmelo is a better scorer than Kobe? a better shooter? I don't think so.. yet kobe had shaq in his prime and kobe is still pretty much a 45% career shooter.... like carmelo he takes a lot of bad shots.. the difference is kobe is just a much better all around player.... but having shaq didn't make him take better shots or increase his %..

the excuses are getting old for carmelo.

Has Melo ever come close to having a roster like Kobe or Lebron has? Simple question

again as I said, lebron had a cavs roster with all role players.. carmelo had billups, a young kenyon, camby, he also had iverson.. so the answer is yes....

but I ask, what does that have to do with how he performs? are you saying he needs good players to play well, then if that is the case why did we trade so much to get carmelo? the excuses are old... carmelo doesn't have the talent of a lebron or kobe.. lets start there, forget about who he plays with... you keep bringing up kobe and lebron.. so are you telling me, that carmelo is better or as good as both of those guys.. if so, I can clearly see where your problem is..

this is a good example of forum slice and dice. i applaud this post!

thanks..

I really don't understand why the constant mention of lebron and kobe, and wade.. those guys have proven consistently that they can and will play at a high level regardless of the talent around them.. now we know you have to have good players around you to win.. no one denies that, but when you have a history of consistently under performing in the playoffs, you, the media, your fans and your college coach need to shut up about not having help... YOU ARE NO HELP!!!

CashMoney wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:I used to dog Melo but how anyone could of watched this Pacers series and blame Melo is getting drunk in the club with JR SMith

Jim is absolutely right Melo had basically no help when your 3rd best player in the series is Copeland you have serious problems .I thought Prigs actually played well though

so old man. He never has help. 10 years and no help in the playoffs. This why he shoots 40% right? Because nobody helps him? He doesnt know how to play. The harder he "tries" the more his teammates stand and watch him pound the ball while he has 10-34 shooting performances.

The guy is good player, he's our best player and he's not good enough to build a team around. He's a #2 scorer. Knicks have big problems.

U think Melo might shoot slightly better if he had Dwayne Wade and Chris Bosh next to him? Do u think Melo would Shoot better if Shaq in his prime was on the team. What about if he played with Russel Westbrook? U guys see Durant those last 2 games without any help thats what Melo deals with on a nightly basis

you nailed. Melo is garbage without his Olympic teammates. Thanks. After ten year of getting used in the playoffs and shooting like Jamal Crawford I think we can all see your truth. Melo's teams need stars on them, because if he doesnt have star PG to get him the ball, a star SG to pass too and a start post player to create space we can pretty much count on Melo shooting 40% in the playoffs while we lose game after game he puts up 10-34.

Yes... Melo had no help in game six and he played well. His shooting in the other 3 losses: 6-16, 9-24 and 10-28 had NOTHING to do with why game 6 was an elimination game right?

I get the pattern now:

Melo blows in the playoffs and shoots a % in the 30s. Melo has a solid elimination game. Everyone says "see???? Melo has no help."

Got it.

Please.....

Game 1 Knicks lose 102-95
Melo scores 27 on 10 for 28 shooting. Also grabs 11 rebounds and has 1 steal
Tyson Chandler scores 4 points gets 2 blocks and 3 boards
Shumpert shoots 4 of 11
JR Smith shoots 4 for 15 .267

Game 3 Knicks lose 82-71
Melo scores 21 on 6 of 16 shooting, grabs 5 boards
Felton goes 1 for 8 from the field
JR Smith shoots 4 for 12

Game 4 Knicks lose 93-82
Melo the ball hog shoots 9 for 23 scoring 24 points and only grabs 9 boards
JR Smith shoots 7 for 22 puts up 10 threes and manages to hit 3.

Game 1, sure if Melo has a better shooting night maybe we pull it off. He did however lead the team in rebounding as in trying to help in other ways.
Game 3, Let's give Melo an 8 for 16 night a nice 50% from the field. Melo scores 4 more points and we lose 82-75.
Game 4, Let's give Melo 12 for 23 shooting. Add 6 points to our total and we lose 93-88.

You're right....dude is a bum! Had he shot 60% from the field we'd be heading to Miami.

Its easy to say he's a bum and garbage and label real observations as hating because thats all you have left. Third year in a row your hero has left you feeling empty and searching for excuses. It must be exhausting to idolize such a player. You see the talent, you see the greatness but if you keep your eyes open long enough you will see volume shooting and me first basketball which yields the same results year after year.

Melo shot 40% and 33% in losses over a 6-6 stretch against Bos and Indy and your STILL crying about his supporting cast.

franco12 wrote:

Silverfuel wrote:They seriously need to get him some help and get rid of Amare. That Amare ocntract will ruin years. Donnie Walsh!!! Brought in D'Antoni and then brought in Stoudemire.

Since we likely can't trade Amar'e, we ought to trade Carmelo and try rebuilding the right way. I bet we could send him somewhere. Lakers? Get back ending contract, youth, draft picks, anything.

We're in the same trap as a franchise as we were in when we had Allan Houston signed to the ridiculous money, an over the hill, breaking down Patrick Ewing and assorted role players.

Just ever the hint that we could win big, but never the horses to do so, so every year, management would continue to go 'All In', and the hole got dug deeper and deeper.

Cleveland is the bet option for us. Send Melo there to play with Kyrie.

dk7th wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

fishmike wrote:He's not a bum. But this is whats to be expected by his typical jock riding homers. Did Melo play like a star? No. He didnt. He played very poorly, and very consistant with how he ALWAYS performs in the playoffs.

Its easy to say he's a bum and garbage and label real observations as hating because thats all you have left. Third year in a row your hero has left you feeling empty and searching for excuses. It must be exhausting to idolize such a player. You see the talent, you see the greatness but if you keep your eyes open long enough you will see volume shooting and me first basketball which yields the same results year after year.

Melo shot 40% and 33% in losses over a 6-6 stretch against Bos and Indy and your STILL crying about his supporting cast.

Fish im actually kind of with you and respect your point of view since I saw that you went into the post season with an open mind about Melo and the team as a whole. However, my thing is, hes not gonna be traded. Hes the face of the franchise and hes here to stay. So I'd rather thing of a way to win with him than pout and complain about his presence (not saying you're doing that).

"think of a way to win with him." he has had 10 years of people thinking of ways to win with him.

he blew his opportunity to win anything when his "legend in my own mind" and "money before winning" value-system kicked in in early 2011.

but let's hear how you think we can win with him.