3G4G wrote:Earl Clark was a bust until the Lakers were forced to play him.....

Jerryd Bayless alligator arms a guy you hyped was a bust until the Grizzlies decided to play him...

Both jumped from team-to-team

Another player you hyped O.J. Mayo...he's been attempted to be traded several occasions and looks like he may not be brought back by Dallas, they're not 100% sold on him

Another player you used to refer to as James Larden....had you calling him a BEAST once he was traded to Houston....

So you know what you can do right about now....

OJ Mayo and Bayless are role players. Terrence Williams isnt even a role player.

I already said Harden was nice 2 seasons ago when he was breaking down defenders with ease with sick handles. I also already posted that I didnt think Westbrook or Harden would be as good as they are now. I dont pretend Im never wrong man.

Dont get salty cause your boy Terrence Williams who I said was garbage is really garbage.

Finestrg wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:

3G4G wrote:He's not...he's slightly better right now but he's gonna cost more money than we have....

We should target.....

Youth

Earl Clark
Terrence Williams
Cole Aldrich
B.J. Mullens
Anthony Murrow
Dominique Jones
Austin Daye
Brandan Wright
Wesley Johnson
Chase Buddinger
DeJuan Blair
Greg Smith
Nolan Smith

Vets

Corey Brewer
Ton Allen
Andray Blatche
Marco Belli
Teen Wolf
Dorrell Wright
J.J. Redick
Nick Young
Jose Calderon
C.J. Watson
Demarre Carroll
Carlos Delfino
Shaun Livingston
Francisco Garcia
Matt Barnes
Ryan Hollins
Martell Webster

Now some of these guys still may have high price tags but money dries up fast too....so you never know but we need to start with the youth free agents first and foremost combing the whole league until we sign at a minimum 2-3 of them. Some of them I feel will come real cheap as they'll be looking for defined roles and playing time possibly more than money.

Who do YOU think we should get? You named mostly scrubs.

Terrence Williams is GARBAGE.

Completely incorrect. T-Will's actually a nice talent - even showed it in flashes in the Boston series when Doc called his number. One of the better names on 3G4G's list (good list btw). If this kid ever went to a situation where he got some playing time he could be an impact player. Dude's 6'6", strong/tough, can handle and pass it and hits the glass extremely well for a 2, good defender, has enough one on one skills to go get his own shot, etc...Very nice player coming out of Louisville.

Dominique Jones is a similar player to T-Will - 6'5" wing that's a good scorer and very good passer for a 2G. Just didn't work out for him in Dallas for whatever reason. That kid still has a pretty bright future imo. Another good call by 3G4G.

I agree, I like T-will, versatile, athletic, has size, and still has a lot of potential. I agree 3g has a pretty good list..

callmened wrote:@vmart...the most we can offer a free agent is 3mill..so i doubt well get bellinart, allen, blatche or any of the guys u mentioned

that's only id they can resign Cope to a low deal if the can't the mMLE will go to retain Cope. If a team offers him a dollar more than 3 mill the knicks don't have the money to match as things stands right now. That doesn't mean Cope will sign a deal with another team if it is that close. I pretty sure NY can say or do something to keep Cope if a few hundred thousand dollars are all that separates the two teams. The key is to jump on it quick and get him sign early before a team gets the chance to talk to him.

Either way, I still think that the problem that is plaguing the Knicks is the absence of a sidekick/peer with Melo. In a league moving away from a one star model to a multi-star model, we need another guy that can be "the man" with Melo. It is for that reason that I was a big proponent of us pursuing James Harden this past offseason by using Jeremy Lin and Iman Shumpert as bait in a 3 team trade. I had no idea that Harden could be as good as he turned out to be but knew he could be the Hawks version of Joe Johnson, which works well since we don't have a real PG that is a legitimate starter. Unfortunately, no "cheap free agents" are going to substitute for that so we need to figure how to make a major move and then go from there. Rajon Rondo on deck!

anrst wrote:could we get matt barnes for the 3mil mle?

We could probably get him for less. He's not going going to get his much deserved payday for the same reason he's never gotten it in the past. That attitude of his can be highly abrasive and wears thin on his opponent and team officials alike.

- we trade tyson for some key role player.
- Melo opts out of his contract at the end of next yr (like JR will do this summer)
- Amare gets traded at the end of next yr since hell be a valuable expiring contract

anrst wrote:could we get matt barnes for the 3mil mle?

Seems weird he always seems to play well, but never gets re-signed. Even when he played for us, we ended up cutting him when he was playing pretty well for us. You might get him for the minimum. We could have had him for the minimum this year (he wanted to sign with us), but we didn't- big mistake.

callmened wrote:no we dont have to use the 3mill MLE on JR...we have his birds rights so were allowed to pay him 5mill (even though were over the cap) and KEEP him if he wants to stay

Thanks! In what situation do you have to dip into the MLE? Is it early bird rights? Would it apply for Priggs and Cope? I seem to remember before Lin and Novak got some ruling, it was looking like we'd have to use the MLE to re-sign them.