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loweyecue
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5/19/2013  10:18 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:
Nalod wrote:Hibbert is younger, bigger, and a better basketball player than Chandler.

Trading Chandler won't solve that unless you bring in a better player.

Knee jerk reaction the morning after. It hurts to lose but really, the guy makes 14mil a a year, in his 30's now and is ours.

He is ok. Our season had a lot to do with other teams and a weak ass east. We did good. Upside is limited.

The point is to acquire assets until we have cap space in 2015


Are you looking for max assets and a complete restart in 2015? Then you have to trade Melo and most of our other vets.
If we're keeping Melo, who's already played 10 seasons, then we should try to maximize what we have now rather than aim for 2015 (when he'll be starting his thirteenth season). There's no point in building a strong supporting cast just in time for Melo to decline.

Yup - agree with both Bonn and Nalod

TKF on Melo ::....he is a punk, a jerk, a self absorbed out of shape, self aggrandizing, unprofessional, volume chucking coach killing playoff loser!!
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5/19/2013  10:29 AM
loweyecue wrote:
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AnubisADL wrote:Long shot idea with Milwaukee since no one wants to willingly play there.

S&T Brandon Jennings AND Larry Sanders plus filler
for
Tyson Chandler and Raymond Felton

Knicks get young pieces they can parlay later in a trade.


Bucks Lineup:
Chandler
Ilyasova
Moute
Reddick
Felton

I'd even throw in Novak.

like that one.

Why would Milawaukee downgrade two positions in one trade? This a trade idea?? Seriously?

Sanders is not better than Chandler

Jennings is a RFA who doesnt want to be in Milwaukee

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5/19/2013  10:33 AM    LAST EDITED: 5/19/2013  10:34 AM
Dear god, if you thought Flu Tyson was bad wait until you see healthy DeAndre Jordan- he's awful! Tyson sucked these playoffs, but he's a much better player than what he showed since returning- we all know this. Let him redeem himself. If you're going to trade every player every time they have a rough spell then we'll never get anywhere.
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5/19/2013  10:39 AM
JaVale McGee is one of the first names that came to my mind ... he's on a bad contract and the nuggets hate him, so they'd likely be willing to move him ... he's young and very talented ... of course he seems to be a bit of a ... well, not the kinda guy you want to rely on.
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5/19/2013  10:46 AM
anrst wrote:JaVale McGee is one of the first names that came to my mind ... he's on a bad contract and the nuggets hate him, so they'd likely be willing to move him ... he's young and very talented ... of course he seems to be a bit of a ... well, not the kinda guy you want to rely on.

Javale McGee as our starting center?

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5/19/2013  10:48 AM
Chandler is not the biggest problem we have. I don't see us getting someone better than Chandler in a trade. He needs to go to Hakeem's big man school, but I don't think anyone else could have stopped Hibbert.
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5/19/2013  10:48 AM
anrst wrote:JaVale McGee is one of the first names that came to my mind ... he's on a bad contract and the nuggets hate him, so they'd likely be willing to move him ... he's young and very talented ... of course he seems to be a bit of a ... well, not the kinda guy you want to rely on.

Even worse than DeAndre Jordan! I used to think McGee looked pretty good from his highlights and boxscore, but if you actually watch the games he makes bone headed play after boneheaded play- I've seen him almost lose Denver games single handedly. TKF can back me up on this- McGee is maddening!

I get that people are p***ed off with Tyson, but wait til you've cooled down before deciding on trades. Jordan or McGee are both much, much worse players who would drive you insane! Tyson is way better than what he showed us these playoffs- that's a fact!

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5/19/2013  10:49 AM
AnubisADL wrote:
anrst wrote:JaVale McGee is one of the first names that came to my mind ... he's on a bad contract and the nuggets hate him, so they'd likely be willing to move him ... he's young and very talented ... of course he seems to be a bit of a ... well, not the kinda guy you want to rely on.

Javale McGee as our starting center?

Ha ha- just how I feel!

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5/19/2013  10:50 AM
smackeddog wrote:
anrst wrote:JaVale McGee is one of the first names that came to my mind ... he's on a bad contract and the nuggets hate him, so they'd likely be willing to move him ... he's young and very talented ... of course he seems to be a bit of a ... well, not the kinda guy you want to rely on.

Even worse than DeAndre Jordan! I used to think McGee looked pretty good from his highlights and boxscore, but if you actually watch the games he makes bone headed play after boneheaded play- I've seen him almost lose Denver games single handedly. TKF can back me up on this- McGee is maddening!

I get that people are p***ed off with Tyson, but wait til you've cooled down before deciding on trades. Jordan or McGee are both much, much worse players who would drive you insane! Tyson is way better than what he showed us these playoffs- that's a fact!


That's a very good analysis. We've got very few ways to improve the team. We can't just give away one of our best players because he had a ****ty post-season.
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5/19/2013  10:53 AM
Any chance the lakers sign and trade for Tyson and amare (reunite with dantoni) and send us Howard?

Sure there need to be fillers, but makes sense on some level to me for some reason.

Let's go Knicks. That's amare
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5/19/2013  10:53 AM
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Caseloads wrote:can we trade chandler to sac for crazy man child demarcus cuzzins

can we trade chandler to clips for deandre and bledsoe

No way, Cousins is way too talented to give up on this soon and Tyson adds nothing to a terrible team like Sacramento.

The most logical destination for a Tyson trade would be to a good team looking to upgrade center to put them over the top. Also, any Tyson trade needs to have a center coming back to us. Around the trade deadline I thought LAC, GS, and OKC were the best fits in terms of fit and need but I don't think that's the case anymore; GS is not trading Bogut after the postseason he just had and I want nothing to do with Perkins so both those teams are out. Looking around the league today I think the most likely trade partners are LAC, for DeAndre and Bledsoe, or Denver for a package involving Javale McGee.

My big hope this offseason is that we can upgrade our shaky, inconsistent backcourt. We should be willing to take a slight downgrade at center for an upgrade at guard. And I believe Tyson still has plenty of value around the league; he was voted into the AllStar game by the coaches and then All-Defensive 1st team by those same coaches.


This. LAC or Portland.

Even consider PHX.


I think the Clippers are the best chance. Chris Paul loved playing with Chandler and if it keeps him in LA for sure then its worth it to them. I would try to send Chandler and Kidd for Deandre Jordan and Bledsoe. Jordans contract is the same as Chandlers, they probably wouldnt be able to resign Bledsoe,They get the best player in the deal

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5/19/2013  10:55 AM
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Knixkik wrote:If we do trade him, I keep going back to the deal for Bledsoe and Jordan. It just makes so much sense. Some may say why would LA do it, but I think you have to realize CP3 would want this.

I'll say it -- why on Earth would the Clips do that deal????? Jordan's better than Chandler by a mile plus he's very tight with Griffin and Bledsoe's a starting PG in this league on virtually any other team.

Trust me fellas, I'd love to unload this turkey as much as the next guy, but let's be realistic on what we could get for him...Jordan/Bledsoe is a pipe dream package imo.

  • 1. The Clippers don't trust Jordan enough to play him late in close games and his poor FT shooting just adds to that distrust.
  • 2. Tyson, when healthy, is absolutely a better player than Jordan. He's worlds better offensively and is also a better rebounder. The only thing that Jordan is actually better at is shot blocking.
  • 3. It's been reported multiple times that Chris Paul doesn't like Jordan. LAC will do anything Paul wants in order to convince him to resign with him. Paul's also played with Chandler in New Orleans so hopefully they had a good relationship and Paul would help push for this.
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5/19/2013  10:56 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:Everyone wants to buy high and sell low. The only players you'd be selling high now are Melo and Felton (and maybe Shumpert).

Would we be selling low for Chandler? The coaches just voted him 1st team All Defense.

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5/19/2013  10:57 AM
Kidd and Camby might retire. That would help a lot.
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5/19/2013  10:57 AM
babyKnicks wrote:Any chance the lakers sign and trade for Tyson and amare (reunite with dantoni) and send us Howard?

Sure there need to be fillers, but makes sense on some level to me for some reason.

Maybe gasol and Howard for chandler, amare and Novak?

Knicks lineup:
Shump, melo, gasol, Howard

Felton seemed hurt. Maybe he is serviceable.

Let's go Knicks. That's amare
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5/19/2013  11:01 AM
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VCoug wrote:True but with two caveats. In the West, GS gave everything SA could handle and really should have won the first 2 games in SA by playing small. If they had played a little better/smarter they could easily be in the WCF right now. OKC lost their 2nd best player to a knee injury and they should be playing small more often. Unfortunately for them, their coach kind of sucks and needs to be replaced.

In our case, I've been saying since last season that I thought we're a better team with Melo at the 4. He needs a defensive/rebounding 5 to cover up his deficiencies, which Tyson should be able to do but he got sick and had a neck injury which severely limited him; a capable PG to run the offense and hit open 3s; and two more 3-point shooters, at least one who's a defensive stopper to throw on the other team's best wing and another who's good at and knows when to slash to the basket for passes from Melo. We're missing the other 3 guys who can do that consistently.

The other thing I'll say about Melo at the 4 is that he needs to put in more work in the offseason. I get the impression that he doesn't put the same work in that guys like Lebron and Kobe. One thing is that he's probably not in as good shape as he could be. Getting in better shape should allow him to miss fewer games during the season and, more importantly, he'd be better able to absorb contact and finish at the rim. If you look at Melo's career he's been average to below average in the paint and at the basket. Him getting in better shape should improve those numbers and improve the team.

Melo is not a PF. Do you see how much bigger David West is than Melo.

Melo is a SF who can play minutes at PF if needed.

I don't see why he isn't. Against certain teams, Indy, SAS, Memphis, the matchup might not be ideal but every team has to deal with that. Melo just had probably his best individual season and we had, by far, our best season as a team in over a decade with Melo playing the 4. I don't see why we should look to change that.

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5/19/2013  11:03 AM
VCoug wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:Everyone wants to buy high and sell low. The only players you'd be selling high now are Melo and Felton (and maybe Shumpert).

Would we be selling low for Chandler? The coaches just voted him 1st team All Defense.

exactly, he has value if you play it right.

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5/19/2013  11:04 AM
babyKnicks wrote:Any chance the lakers sign and trade for Tyson and amare (reunite with dantoni) and send us Howard?

Sure there need to be fillers, but makes sense on some level to me for some reason.

If you were the Lakers, would you honestly do this?!

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5/19/2013  11:06 AM
babyKnicks wrote:Any chance the lakers sign and trade for Tyson and amare (reunite with dantoni) and send us Howard?

Sure there need to be fillers, but makes sense on some level to me for some reason.

No chance in hell. Amare is only tadeable for longer worse contracts. He didnt even look good enough to play in the NBA anymore in these playoffs

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5/19/2013  11:06 AM
babyKnicks wrote:Any chance the lakers sign and trade for Tyson and amare (reunite with dantoni) and send us Howard?

Sure there need to be fillers, but makes sense on some level to me for some reason.

No chance in hell. Amare is only tadeable for longer worse contracts. He didnt even look good enough to play in the NBA anymore in these playoffs

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