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misterearl
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5/4/2013  5:50 PM    LAST EDITED: 5/4/2013  5:51 PM
Drama Free

gunsnewing wrote:Drama always follows me around


you just have to live your life not caring what anyone thinks

shake off the drama of trying to prove you're better than anyone thinks you are

one more thing. remember Reggie.

Beat Indiana.

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5/4/2013  5:55 PM

Appropriate for May the fourth....

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5/4/2013  5:59 PM
martin wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:
BlueSeats wrote:As someone who's been in and out of message boards, the trick is to just post when you want and don't when you don't. Doesn't have to be all in or out.

The problem (my problem) is trying to win arguments, which I used to try to do. Now, if/when I post, it's to drop my thoughts and move on. Don't let it suck you in. What you, me or anyone else thinks about sports really isn't that big a deal.

Guns, I've enjoyed hearing your thoughts. I'll miss them. But do what ya gotta do.

Bingo. This should be stickied.

Agreed!

Send Closk!!!!

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5/4/2013  6:10 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:
BlueSeats wrote:As someone who's been in and out of message boards, the trick is to just post when you want and don't when you don't. Doesn't have to be all in or out.

The problem (my problem) is trying to win arguments, which I used to try to do. Now, if/when I post, it's to drop my thoughts and move on. Don't let it suck you in. What you, me or anyone else thinks about sports really isn't that big a deal.

Guns, I've enjoyed hearing your thoughts. I'll miss them. But do what ya gotta do.

your problem my man - the sport of the argument is the entire reason to post on an internet messageboard about basketball. I certainly don't come here to learn about basketball


I agree with Blue. I'm as guilty as anyone of always trying to win arguments. The problem is that there is no such thing as winning the argument. It's not like there's an objective arbiter of truth who settles the fights. And it's not like the other person ever says, "You're right. I don't know what I was thinking." Even if they did, it doesn't really matter. It's not like you get a big shiny trophy.

since i am a student of the game i post to learn and to test my knowledge of basketball, and by extension, human nature. hence, even though i am competitive, winning an argument is irrelevant. it is rewarding to learn something just as it is gratifying to have my views of the game proven true by events, or have my views defied by those same events.

ultimately, what transpires in the real world-- after an argument has ensued-- proves or disproves ones opinion, and its logical extension, predictive ability. in that sense i suppose posting for me is a competition.

unfortunately most internet posters are too egotistical to acknowledge when they are in error. to be a student of the game the egoism needs to dialed back otherwise learning is impossible.

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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5/4/2013  6:25 PM
Gtfo guns, it's not that serious, are you a woman??
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5/4/2013  6:29 PM
Wow. A bit surprised to see this when the Knicks advanced. I enjoy your opinion and hope your back if that's what you want. Good luck and go Knicks.
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5/4/2013  7:33 PM
gunsnewing wrote:Thats the problem. The more the Knicks win the more toxic this place becomes instead of the other way around. There was more peace when the Knicks were losing all those years

If you leave, Who is going to be the one to say trade this guy or that guy ? One day you hate Amare the next day you luv him.

I'd rather die on my feet, than live on my knees!
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5/4/2013  7:39 PM
he's baaack
gunsnewing wrote:
BlueSeats wrote:As someone who's been in and out of message boards, the trick is to just post when you want and don't when you don't. Doesn't have to be all in or out.

The problem (my problem) is trying to win arguments, which I used to try to do. Now, if/when I post, it's to drop my thoughts and move on. Don't let it suck you in. What you, me or anyone else thinks about sports really isn't that big a deal.

Guns, I've enjoyed hearing your thoughts. I'll miss them. But do what ya gotta do.


Wow good to know you are still around Blue. Thanks for the advice. I get too involved as evident by my post count. Maybe you guys are right a break will help

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5/4/2013  8:37 PM
BasketballJones wrote:

Appropriate for May the fourth....

OH MY THAT WAS A GOOD ONE!

Here's to you Guns

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5/4/2013  8:51 PM
I've quit some boards before for different reasons. I've usually checked back in though. It's tough to not take a peek after you've invested so much time into something and made a habit of it. But if it don't feel worth it anymore, move on. Do what you gotta do.
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5/4/2013  8:56 PM
smackeddog wrote:Strange how the board became so polarised this season when it's been our best season in over a decade.

it's always been polarized...welcome to the die hard new york sport fan world

Forum Po Po and #33 for a reason...
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5/4/2013  9:00 PM
dk7th wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:
BlueSeats wrote:As someone who's been in and out of message boards, the trick is to just post when you want and don't when you don't. Doesn't have to be all in or out.

The problem (my problem) is trying to win arguments, which I used to try to do. Now, if/when I post, it's to drop my thoughts and move on. Don't let it suck you in. What you, me or anyone else thinks about sports really isn't that big a deal.

Guns, I've enjoyed hearing your thoughts. I'll miss them. But do what ya gotta do.

your problem my man - the sport of the argument is the entire reason to post on an internet messageboard about basketball. I certainly don't come here to learn about basketball


I agree with Blue. I'm as guilty as anyone of always trying to win arguments. The problem is that there is no such thing as winning the argument. It's not like there's an objective arbiter of truth who settles the fights. And it's not like the other person ever says, "You're right. I don't know what I was thinking." Even if they did, it doesn't really matter. It's not like you get a big shiny trophy.

since i am a student of the game i post to learn and to test my knowledge of basketball, and by extension, human nature. hence, even though i am competitive, winning an argument is irrelevant. it is rewarding to learn something just as it is gratifying to have my views of the game proven true by events, or have my views defied by those same events.

ultimately, what transpires in the real world-- after an argument has ensued-- proves or disproves ones opinion, and its logical extension, predictive ability. in that sense i suppose posting for me is a competition.

unfortunately most internet posters are too egotistical to acknowledge when they are in error. to be a student of the game the egoism needs to dialed back otherwise learning is impossible.


Definitely agree. I'm always trying to improve my knowledge whereas it seems most people think they already know everything. But that's how most of the world is. People have strong opinions on everything whether they have any knowledge or not. I definitely don't try to win as many discussions as I used to but sometimes it's hard to not keep trying to force your point across.
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5/4/2013  9:02 PM    LAST EDITED: 5/4/2013  9:06 PM
gunsnewing wrote:Thats the problem. The more the Knicks win the more toxic this place becomes instead of the other way around. There was more peace when the Knicks were losing all those years

hmmm

with the hatters and lovers under isiah's tenure was this place peaceful? hardly, i think.

before this forum existed, on the ny times forum there were constant arguments about whether the knicks were better with/without ewing with/without jeff van gundy...etc....and this was not just exclusive to the internet...it was happening on sports talk radio too...

it's been part of life for sports fans in nyc at least as far as i've been paying much attention...

even a team like the yankees, with all of their winning, does not silence this constant argument...

it is what it is...

Forum Po Po and #33 for a reason...
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5/4/2013  9:05 PM
BlueSeats wrote:As someone who's been in and out of message boards, the trick is to just post when you want and don't when you don't. Doesn't have to be all in or out.

The problem (my problem) is trying to win arguments, which I used to try to do. Now, if/when I post, it's to drop my thoughts and move on. Don't let it suck you in. What you, me or anyone else thinks about sports really isn't that big a deal.

Guns, I've enjoyed hearing your thoughts. I'll miss them. But do what ya gotta do.

winner

Forum Po Po and #33 for a reason...
misterearl
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5/4/2013  9:40 PM
BK (before UK)

PresIke wrote:
before this forum existed, on the ny times forum there were constant arguments about whether the knicks were better with/without ewing with/without jeff van gundy...etc....and this was not just exclusive to the internet...it was happening on sports talk radio too...

it's been part of life for sports fans in nyc at least as far as i've been paying much attention...

even a team like the yankees, with all of their winning, does not silence this constant argument...

it is what it is...

PresIke - sports arguments go back to when some of the earliest inhabitants of this planet argued about which Pyramid builders were better. The Sports Talk tribunals hosted by the Pharoahs would debate the chariot races for months at a time. The difference between then and now? Men were men, women were women and both always manned up to the point they NEVER took things personal or held grudges for more than 30 seconds.

At the end of the day, all that mattered was not who won the argument, or lost, it was who had the most elegant orange and blue Marcus Camby Head Crown adorning their royal dome. No one kept score for the debate and there was no gold awarded for the most verbiage.

There were no sombers, homers, pom poms or not quite retired. You participated in the discussion or you watched. There were no trumpets hailing either. The goal was not consensus or majority rule. One man. One opinion.

Are you not entertained?

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5/4/2013  9:53 PM
misterearl wrote:BK (before UK)

PresIke wrote:
before this forum existed, on the ny times forum there were constant arguments about whether the knicks were better with/without ewing with/without jeff van gundy...etc....and this was not just exclusive to the internet...it was happening on sports talk radio too...

it's been part of life for sports fans in nyc at least as far as i've been paying much attention...

even a team like the yankees, with all of their winning, does not silence this constant argument...

it is what it is...

PresIke - sports arguments go back to when some of the earliest inhabitants of this planet argued about which Pyramid builders were better. The Sports Talk tribunals hosted by the Pharoahs would debate the chariot races for months at a time. The difference between then and now? Men were men, women were women and both always manned up to the point they NEVER took things personal or held grudges for more than 30 seconds.

At the end of the day, all that mattered was not who won the argument, or lost, it was who had the most elegant orange and blue Marcus Camby Head Crown adorning their royal dome. No one kept score for the debate and there was no gold awarded for the most verbiage.

There were no sombers, homers, pom poms or not quite retired. You participated in the discussion or you watched. There were no trumpets hailing either. The goal was not consensus or majority rule. One man. One opinion.

Are you not entertained?

we have diametrically opposite points of view but hey you be you and i'll be me.

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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5/4/2013  9:55 PM    LAST EDITED: 5/4/2013  9:55 PM
dk7th wrote:we have diametrically opposite points of view but hey you be you and i'll be me.

Good idea. And I'll be me. That doesn't leave much for the other guys to do, but hey, life is like that - like musical chairs.

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5/4/2013  10:11 PM    LAST EDITED: 5/4/2013  10:11 PM
The Truth

dk7th wrote:and speaking of truth, if you want to know what good footwork is, watch pierce play.

Good call.

dk7th wrote:
we have diametrically opposite points of view but hey you be you and i'll be me.

pierce's footwork was magnificent during his 4-18 performance.

I hope he enjoys his new fishing rod.

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5/4/2013  10:19 PM
misterearl wrote:The Truth

dk7th wrote:and speaking of truth, if you want to know what good footwork is, watch pierce play.

Good call.

dk7th wrote:
we have diametrically opposite points of view but hey you be you and i'll be me.

pierce's footwork was magnificent during his 4-18 performance.

I hope he enjoys his new fishing rod.

Sounds like he is going to be on a different team. I don't remember where I read it, maybe here but celts may move on.

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5/4/2013  10:48 PM
gunsnewing wrote:Thats the problem. The more the Knicks win the more toxic this place becomes instead of the other way around. There was more peace when the Knicks were losing all those years

Now Guns, you should wait 'til we get thru the Finals. The board may become so toxic as to implode. Who am I gonna watch the games with?

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