Before this Terry thing happened I was reading something about why fans of other teams hated JR. In that conversation this video was shown. When I watched this I thought that was a nasty elbow he threw at Thabo.

Papabear wrote:Papabear Says

JR Smith messed up our chance to go 4 and out. It's now time for someone to step up. Maybe Copeland or some one else. Shump. Things like this mental break downs may hurt his chances for a big pay day with another team.

Good Point. I actually think JR will stay after this season for several reasons. I think teams will be nervous about giving him s huge contract. The Knicks are a better fit for JR even when he screws up

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NYDiva wrote:They're such *******s to do this.

Fucking league.

It's true. WFAN just reported it.

I can't blame the league. I can blame JR for putting himself in that situation. Jr knew he was wrong right after he did it, that is why he walked back to Woody.

What he did doesn't warrant a suspension. I don't even think it warranted an ejection, but he got that. He was fined due to being called for a flagrant 2. That should have been enough.

But this is typical of the league. They are quite obvious with this stuff. I hope Woody speaks out against it, but he probably doesn't want to be fined.

Howard Beck‏@HowardBeckNYT17m
There is clear precedent for Smith suspension. Chicago's Rip Hamilton was suspended a game for elbowing DeMar DeRozan two weeks ago.

If they suspended Rip for the same thing I don't see anything wrong with JR geting suspended for it now. We all know Terry is annoying, but Lebron never hit him with an elbow. Lebron took out his frustrations by dunking on terry.

I think the playoffs are a bit different. I also think Dwight Howard should have missed about ten games for his foul that almost ended Melo's season.

It isn't surprising coming from this heavily biased and soft league. I in no way condone J.R. for what he did, although I understand his frustration with the referees not calling the many fouls Terry and Boston players were hitting him with. The one before the elbow incident was so ridiculously obvious, yet J.R. is the villain. Ok.

At least I expected the League to take all the factors into account, but why? THey have a chance at affecting and maybe extending the series if they simply take J.R. out so of course they will take advantage of this.

But in no way should the Knicks lose tomorrow. They have the weapons necessary to win. This is a chance for Copeland and Novak to step up and help the scoring load.

Win tomorrow!

His history probably has something to do with the suspension. If Kidd or Pablo threw it, I think they'd be less likely to get a suspension.

misterearl wrote:The suspension works in our favor. JR would have been a distraction and the opinion over the Terry flopmwouldmhave been non stop. The Boston crowd would have used Smith as a focal point for taunts.

This way, the veteran Knicks have something else to prove. They will dedicate the game to their penalized colleague and put the Celtics out of their misery.

Expect Kidd to drop a triple double. JR will go to Tufts College gym to shoot jumpers.

You heard it here first.

i think if copeland can have one of those step up games that he has had in the past we will be fine

I think the ejection and flagrant 2 is understandable. But the suspension is questionable because the flopping by Terry. JR clearly fouled him but Terry clearly exaggerated the contact and should be fined $5k as per playoff flop rules. If were making examples of people early in the playoffs then be consistent.

If Terry were legit falling as a result of the contact, his reflexes should have moved his body in a fashion that would counter the direction of the blow and his arms should move towards the origin of contact and then to brace his fall.
In other words his torso should have reacted to the blow by moving forward while his hips dropped to the floor. He clearly threw his hands up and the flailing motion carried his head and torso backwards to the floor. So while he was legitimately fouled, he flopped too... see the video in the link. It's like Tony Parker's and Gallo's flop examples from the video. I'm not holding my breath to see if anything actually gets done about it.

http://www.nba.com/2012/news/10/29/nba-flopping-rules.ap/index.html

What JR did was dumb but he walked away and didn't allow the situation to escalate. He also didn't argue w/ the refs because like others have said, he has a reputation and regardless of whether he helped Terry up or not it wouldn't have changed the end result. The best thing he could have done is walk away before there was any chance of a fight. I'm glad this happened now instead of later in a series or situation that would have actually mattered. At least he can learn from it and maybe he needed a reminder that he needs to keep his head level on the court.

But screw it all. None of it matters. JUST WIN!!! That's the best retaliation I can think of and we are more than capable of getting it done.

misterearl wrote:This way, the veteran Knicks have something else to prove. They will dedicate the game to their penalized colleague and put the Celtics out of their misery.

Expect Kidd to drop a triple double.

You heard it here first.

Earl, I am with you. I am pissed at this. I want the Knicks to win by 30 points in Game 4. I don't want to see Paul Pierce prancing around like a prima donna. I want to see him crying at the end of the game.

I think the intent of throwing elbows like that is the same as throwing a punch.

If it lands or how it lands is not the sole reason for the flagrant 2 but the intent.

The one he threw against okc was awful. He might have been warned after that.

This is why he can't be trusted. I hate it as a fan and hope we can sweep and get our guys some rest.

I don't care about showboat or anything the Celts are whining about. They are desperate and trying get back in the series so they will try to bait our "mentally soft" guys into doing something stupid. A technical can change a games momentum and a series. JT might have morally "deserved it" but thats what happens. JR lost it. Perhaps he is getting better at it because he recognized it right away. Kind of like when my dog is bad. Sometimes you just can't help things. Its "Nature".......

Kudo's to JR for trying but my take is the league has a problem with his elbow before and this was a bit of payback.

Anyone know why the knicks are "victims"?