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4/19/2013  12:20 PM
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tkf wrote:
3G4G wrote:We have so many Fake Thug Debos on this team it's not even funny.

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Net negative result? Nice! We need a like and dislike button added to this site for posts.

Anyway, yeah, fake thug debos? You've got to be kidding me. Let's make it -3.

Wishing everyone well. I enjoyed posting here for a while, but as I matured I realized this forum isn't for me. We all evolve. Thanks for the memories everyone.
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4/19/2013  12:29 PM
Solace wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
tkf wrote:
3G4G wrote:We have so many Fake Thug Debos on this team it's not even funny.

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Net negative result? Nice! We need a like and dislike button added to this site for posts.

Anyway, yeah, fake thug debos? You've got to be kidding me. Let's make it -3.

-4 I noticed those pictures were ignored and most importantly, we're taking Kenyon comments as being a thug when he's more so talking about being a stand up teammate - standing up for the star of your team, which I have no doubt that he will back up those words. In the 90s we would have applauded these comments, and honestly, this is what's needed to go deep into the playoffs - all teams have a bulldog. I just can't understand why everything have to be turned into a negative.

Just waiting on Jr to win the sixth man and for it to somehow be turned into a debate.

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4/19/2013  12:50 PM
tkf wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
TeamBall wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
tkf wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
3G4G wrote:We have so many Fake Thug Debos on this team it's not even funny.

What makes you think kmart is a fake thug? His history indicates otherwise. Im pretty sure he is aware that this was one of the main reasons he was brought in if not the reason

GUNS, I think kenyon is the one who may need to have someone get his back.. he has quick fuse and not much poise... No one is shooting another player on the court, no one fighting.. this is a battle of the mental... Boston has proven over and over again, they can win those battles.. kenyon on the other hand has proven, just like carmelo that they can be rattled... to the point of making costly non-basketball plays on the court.. at the wrong time...


No question about that. The knicks need to be menyally strong. They've proven this year that they are not and teams know it. Thats why the addition of Kmart is key. Teams are going to do a lot less talking in Melos ear unless their players like bloody noses

You're not actually agreeing with his point though. Hes saying Kmart is one of those guys that will get rattled and thrown off his game.

Oh no I vehemently disagree with that. Im posting on my phone and missed that part. There is nothing fake tough guy about kmart. If Kmart was still on the Knuggets those same guys would be raving about his toughness and protecting of his teammates. It is what it is

who has k mart protected guns? This fake tough guy stuff, getting tech's at the wrong time, doesn't make you tough.. it makes you stupid... how is k mart going to have anyone's back when he can't seem to keep his cool as well...

this is not MMA, this is a test of the will, a mental test.. name me one knick outside of kid who has proven himself tough, mentally tough in that area? and kid's role has been greatly diminished as the season moved along...

you know what, I have to agree with this post (at least for the most part). I know I'm contradicting myself here but, I remember thinking -seeing this guy get techs and ejected/suspended like he was in Jersey- what a fool.

But, watching him in Denver, he seemed to have develop some self control. The hard fouls were still there but, toned down and, no, I can't remember him ever protecting anyone but, I think his hard foul, don't give a "F" mentality had much the same effect.

the fact that you can't even have an unrelated thread without some tool here bringing him up make me think that rational minds are few and far between. Bunch of emotionally weak, angst riddled people. I mean, how many times can you argue the same shyt
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4/19/2013  12:50 PM
So just to be clear when KG & Boston take hard fouls & pushes & shoves after the whistle that's just grizzled play-off veterans trying to get in the head of their opponents but when we do it it's being a fake thug??? GTFOH with that bulldonkey.
'll tell you who the real fake thugs are, internet wanksters who hide behind their keyboard cause I cant think of anyone here who would have anything to say to K-Mart's face.
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4/19/2013  1:10 PM
Finally we have a on court leader - who can punk just about anyone in the NBA
TKF on Melo ::....he is a punk, a jerk, a self absorbed out of shape, self aggrandizing, unprofessional, volume chucking coach killing playoff loser!!
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4/19/2013  1:24 PM
DurzoBlint wrote:
tkf wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
TeamBall wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
tkf wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
3G4G wrote:We have so many Fake Thug Debos on this team it's not even funny.

What makes you think kmart is a fake thug? His history indicates otherwise. Im pretty sure he is aware that this was one of the main reasons he was brought in if not the reason

GUNS, I think kenyon is the one who may need to have someone get his back.. he has quick fuse and not much poise... No one is shooting another player on the court, no one fighting.. this is a battle of the mental... Boston has proven over and over again, they can win those battles.. kenyon on the other hand has proven, just like carmelo that they can be rattled... to the point of making costly non-basketball plays on the court.. at the wrong time...


No question about that. The knicks need to be menyally strong. They've proven this year that they are not and teams know it. Thats why the addition of Kmart is key. Teams are going to do a lot less talking in Melos ear unless their players like bloody noses

You're not actually agreeing with his point though. Hes saying Kmart is one of those guys that will get rattled and thrown off his game.

Oh no I vehemently disagree with that. Im posting on my phone and missed that part. There is nothing fake tough guy about kmart. If Kmart was still on the Knuggets those same guys would be raving about his toughness and protecting of his teammates. It is what it is

who has k mart protected guns? This fake tough guy stuff, getting tech's at the wrong time, doesn't make you tough.. it makes you stupid... how is k mart going to have anyone's back when he can't seem to keep his cool as well...

this is not MMA, this is a test of the will, a mental test.. name me one knick outside of kid who has proven himself tough, mentally tough in that area? and kid's role has been greatly diminished as the season moved along...

you know what, I have to agree with this post (at least for the most part). I know I'm contradicting myself here but, I remember thinking -seeing this guy get techs and ejected/suspended like he was in Jersey- what a fool.

But, watching him in Denver, he seemed to have develop some self control. The hard fouls were still there but, toned down and, no, I can't remember him ever protecting anyone but, I think his hard foul, don't give a "F" mentality had much the same effect.

and we will have to see what effect that will have.. One thing I had to come to understand, especially when we had Q rich and Zach, and they used to go at boston and Pierce, talking about how pierce isn't gangsta and how he couldn't do this or that in the streets.. well guess what? this isn't the streets! No one is fighting, no one is pulling a gun or knife (unless you are a dumbass like that crittendon who will be serving life hopefully for that shooting here in atlanta), I mean most of these guys are country club butt buddies..

now garnett and pierce come off as stand-offish type of douchebags, but that is their advantage over a lot of people.. they play hard, play dirty enough to push the envelope , but not go too far.. and you have to be mentally prepared to stay focused game in and game out to beat those guys....

you are either going to have to be just too talented for them( as in the case with the heat a couple of years ago) or if you are close in talent, as the knicks are, you are going to have to win the mental game, and that involves keeping your poise so you can play your game.. the knicks don't have the kind of talent to just go out there and beat them despite being rattled a bit.... we are not going to out talent boston.. we are going to have to grind it out in every facet and beat them.... and keeping cool is the first step... this is where I have my doubts..

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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4/19/2013  1:30 PM    LAST EDITED: 4/19/2013  1:31 PM
ActionJackson wrote:So just to be clear when KG & Boston take hard fouls & pushes & shoves after the whistle that's just grizzled play-off veterans trying to get in the head of their opponents but when we do it it's being a fake thug??? GTFOH with that bulldonkey.
'll tell you who the real fake thugs are, internet wanksters who hide behind their keyboard cause I cant think of anyone here who would have anything to say to K-Mart's face.

no, for years they knew how far to push the envelope... that is the key... they know how far to go..it's a mind game.. the mentally weak lose... for the most part.. the emotionally unstable tend to fall..


think of anyone here who would have anything to say to K-Mart's face.

that quote is off base.. you don't know anyone on here like that... who is k-mart honestly?
you could be talking to a guy on a forum who did 10 years in a mexican prison, a gang banger, a hit man.. you have no idea... saying stuff like " you wouldn't say it in his face" is absolutely ridiculous..... some things are not necessary at all, heck I wouldn't walk to jeff van gundy's face and say something negative about him.. doesn't ,mean I am scared of JVG and it certainly doesn't make him any tougher because I choose not to do so..... LOL.. just not really necessary... this is what the internet is all about.. voice your opinion.. not to prove how tough you are....

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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4/19/2013  1:40 PM
tkf wrote:
think of anyone here who would have anything to say to K-Mart's face.

that quote is off base.. you don't know anyone on here like that... who is k-mart honestly?
you could be talking to a guy on a forum who did 10 years in a mexican prison, a gang banger, a hit man.. you have no idea... saying stuff like " you wouldn't say it in his face" is absolutely ridiculous..... some things are not necessary at all, heck I wouldn't walk to jeff van gundy's face and say something negative about him.. doesn't ,mean I am scared of JVG and it certainly doesn't make him any tougher because I choose not to do so..... LOL.. just not really necessary... this is what the internet is all about.. voice your opinion.. not to prove how tough you are....

There is NOTHING that i say here about a player or another UK member that i wouldnt say to their face but hey maybe i just i live by a different set of man rules. Having an opinion from the den of your mother's house doesnt remove a sense of social responsibility.

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4/19/2013  1:49 PM    LAST EDITED: 4/19/2013  1:52 PM
ActionJackson wrote:
tkf wrote:
think of anyone here who would have anything to say to K-Mart's face.

that quote is off base.. you don't know anyone on here like that... who is k-mart honestly?
you could be talking to a guy on a forum who did 10 years in a mexican prison, a gang banger, a hit man.. you have no idea... saying stuff like " you wouldn't say it in his face" is absolutely ridiculous..... some things are not necessary at all, heck I wouldn't walk to jeff van gundy's face and say something negative about him.. doesn't ,mean I am scared of JVG and it certainly doesn't make him any tougher because I choose not to do so..... LOL.. just not really necessary... this is what the internet is all about.. voice your opinion.. not to prove how tough you are....

There is NOTHING that i say here about a player or another UK member that i wouldnt say to their face but hey maybe i just i live by a different set of man rules. Having an opinion from the den of your mother's house doesnt remove a sense of social responsibility.

WELL THAT IS YOU...I am sure in life there are things you have said that you would not say to the person.. if you say that has never happened, then I don't believe you... you can try to play this macho man card, but I don't have time for that... it is ridiculous because none of us may never see kenyon martin face to face and if we do still may not have the opportunity to approach him.. so what is the use for such comments?

If the situation called for it, I don't think anyone would have a problem saying that to his, or anyone else face.... if need be!

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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4/19/2013  1:51 PM
ActionJackson wrote:
tkf wrote:
think of anyone here who would have anything to say to K-Mart's face.

that quote is off base.. you don't know anyone on here like that... who is k-mart honestly?
you could be talking to a guy on a forum who did 10 years in a mexican prison, a gang banger, a hit man.. you have no idea... saying stuff like " you wouldn't say it in his face" is absolutely ridiculous..... some things are not necessary at all, heck I wouldn't walk to jeff van gundy's face and say something negative about him.. doesn't ,mean I am scared of JVG and it certainly doesn't make him any tougher because I choose not to do so..... LOL.. just not really necessary... this is what the internet is all about.. voice your opinion.. not to prove how tough you are....

There is NOTHING that i say here about a player or another UK member that i wouldnt say to their face but hey maybe i just i live by a different set of man rules. Having an opinion from the den of your mother's house doesnt remove a sense of social responsibility.

I don't know Action - I'd be careful of that guy's e-Gallo. Last thing you need is for him to submit your email address to a spammer

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4/19/2013  1:54 PM
Hersports85 wrote:
Solace wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
tkf wrote:
3G4G wrote:We have so many Fake Thug Debos on this team it's not even funny.

+1

-1

-2

Net negative result? Nice! We need a like and dislike button added to this site for posts.

Anyway, yeah, fake thug debos? You've got to be kidding me. Let's make it -3.

-4 I noticed those pictures were ignored and most importantly, we're taking Kenyon comments as being a thug when he's more so talking about being a stand up teammate - standing up for the star of your team, which I have no doubt that he will back up those words. In the 90s we would have applauded these comments, and honestly, this is what's needed to go deep into the playoffs - all teams have a bulldog. I just can't understand why everything have to be turned into a negative.

Just waiting on Jr to win the sixth man and for it to somehow be turned into a debate.

-5.

Everything you have ever wanted is on the other side of fear- George Adair
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4/19/2013  1:57 PM
tkf wrote:WELL THAT IS YOU...I am sure in life there are things you have said that you would not say to the person.. if you say that has never happened, then I don't believe you... you can try to play this macho man card, but I don't have time for that... it is ridiculous because none of us may never see kenyon martin face to face and if we do still may not have the opportunity to approach him.. so what is the use for such comments?

Oh i get it, calling out the players on their "Fake thuggery" is acceptable but calling YOU out on the same is apparently crossing the line. My bad...sorry

PS - not a card, I mean what i say & i say what i mean. Which is why i dont talk trash about the players (except for the ones at the UK pick-up games...sheesh those guys suck )

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4/19/2013  1:59 PM
tkf wrote:
ActionJackson wrote:So just to be clear when KG & Boston take hard fouls & pushes & shoves after the whistle that's just grizzled play-off veterans trying to get in the head of their opponents but when we do it it's being a fake thug??? GTFOH with that bulldonkey.
'll tell you who the real fake thugs are, internet wanksters who hide behind their keyboard cause I cant think of anyone here who would have anything to say to K-Mart's face.

no, for years they knew how far to push the envelope... that is the key... they know how far to go..it's a mind game.. the mentally weak lose... for the most part.. the emotionally unstable tend to fall..


think of anyone here who would have anything to say to K-Mart's face.

that quote is off base.. you don't know anyone on here like that... who is k-mart honestly?
you could be talking to a guy on a forum who did 10 years in a mexican prison, a gang banger, a hit man.. you have no idea... saying stuff like " you wouldn't say it in his face" is absolutely ridiculous..... some things are not necessary at all, heck I wouldn't walk to jeff van gundy's face and say something negative about him.. doesn't ,mean I am scared of JVG and it certainly doesn't make him any tougher because I choose not to do so..... LOL.. just not really necessary... this is what the internet is all about.. voice your opinion.. not to prove how tough you are....

It's clear now. The internets are for proving how tough others are/ aren't.

Everything you have ever wanted is on the other side of fear- George Adair
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4/19/2013  2:04 PM
How can anyone on that court actually take KG's BS seriously anymore? Queen of the NBAs fake tough guy routine.

Knicks winning should shut him the F up and then he can go choke on some of Bill Russell's breakfast sausage in retirement.

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4/19/2013  2:04 PM    LAST EDITED: 4/19/2013  2:17 PM
I think you guys are making too big a deal out of kmart getting ejected in NJ. I may be wrong but I dont remember him ever being selfish and getting himself ejected. Certainly no more than Rasheed who everyone loves. If he did it is a thing of the past and immaturity. He is 35 now and a Knick and the only way he will get ejected if if KG says a peep to Melo because he will break KGs jaw and KG is too smart and savy a dude to even go there.

Kmart is not getting ejected for picking fights with opposing players and refs. Kmart is exactly the player we were missing. I was xoncerned about our sxoring once Amare went down but JR and Cope solved the secondary and thirs scorer problem and push felton to 4th on the depth chart nit 3rd

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4/19/2013  2:12 PM
All I know is that as soon as KMart came to the team there was an IMMEDIATE change in the force that this team played with. The defense got a bit tougher and the team fought harder. That's as much a part of this as the need to stand up to someone trying to punk your star player. Some of you are just WAY off base on this. This team is much tougher now and in a good way. The Knicks don't have any reason to fear any team, even the Heat. We're bigger than the Heat and we have guys that have beaten the Heat so why should this team fear any team from either a physical standpoint or a BB standpoint?

For once can we all be PROUD of our team and see what they can get done this post season? This is the best group we've had in a long time and I believe in them. KMart adds so much to the mix so he can say what he wants, cuz i've seen him back it up with his play on the court!!!

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4/19/2013  2:15 PM
sealy wrote:How can anyone on that court actually take KG's BS seriously anymore? Queen of the NBAs fake tough guy routine.

Knicks winning should shut him the F up and then he can go choke on some of Bill Russell's breakfast sausage in retirement.

Exactly im not worried about the mind games now that we have kmart. KG wont say a word. Im more concerned about bostons defensive strategy against the knicks in only allowing 3s with less than 4 secs on the clock as opposed to open 3s the first 7secs. They will do everything in their power to force the knicks to go one on one and settle for contested 3s with the shotclock winding down. Also concerning that Melo shoots his worse percentage vs the celtics this yr. Only 33%.

But Melo and JR have been so hot it shouldnt matter. As we've proven the last 2 meetings

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4/19/2013  2:15 PM
gunsnewing wrote:if KG says a peep to Melo because he will break KGs jaw and KG is too smart and savy a dude to even go there.

Has KG ever in his history of being an NBA player ever gotten into it with somebody his own size???

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4/19/2013  2:17 PM
ActionJackson wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:if KG says a peep to Melo because he will break KGs jaw and KG is too smart and savy a dude to even go there.

Has KG ever in his history of being an NBA player ever gotten into it with somebody his own size???


Does Channing Frye count?
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4/19/2013  2:24 PM
ActionJackson wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:if KG says a peep to Melo because he will break KGs jaw and KG is too smart and savy a dude to even go there.

Has KG ever in his history of being an NBA player ever gotten into it with somebody his own size???

Nope. He really does only pick on smaller players. That is the beauty in the Kmart signing and Nixluva has it right. Knicks got back tk playing tough shutdown D the 2nd Kmart put on the uniform. He is quick enough to execute Woodsons defensive strategy whereas he can guard all 5 positions where Tyson could nkt. Not his fault for being 7'1 and trying to guard 6ft pgs because the system is predicated on switching. Didnt help that Felton was relying too heavily on the switch instead of fighting over picks.

One of 2 things had to happen. Woidson change his entire defensive philosophy which we saw for a second when with amare we played zone but you dont just scrap what you worked so hard on since training camp. Or 2 add players that can execute the system. Knicks wisely chose the latter and the rest is history 15 of 16

Great quote from Kenyon

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