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Hope they catch him alive- always feels like in some way they've won when they kill themselves or die before being captured.

fishmike wrote:

smackeddog wrote:Why are some of the media suggesting the fact that they're Chechen could be a motive? America has nothing to do with what happened in Chechnya- that's all on Russia.

Hope they catch him alive- always feels like in some way they've won when they kill themselves or die before being captured.

this... they need to waterboard the kid till he sings. Then he can rot in guatanimo until he dies of scurvy

Just like to clarify I wasn't actually saying he should be tortured, just caught and jailed.

Solace wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

fishmike wrote:

smackeddog wrote:Why are some of the media suggesting the fact that they're Chechen could be a motive? America has nothing to do with what happened in Chechnya- that's all on Russia.

Hope they catch him alive- always feels like in some way they've won when they kill themselves or die before being captured.

this... they need to waterboard the kid till he sings. Then he can rot in guatanimo until he dies of scurvy

Just like to clarify I wasn't actually saying he should be tortured, just caught and jailed.

To be honest, I would have no problem with torture either. I'm not an evil person, but if you commit an heinous premeditated act, I think it is fair, actually. Maybe that would actually be a deterrent, because jail time and death don't seem to be enough.

But isn't torturing someone a heinous premeditated act? I get the desire to see him suffer, I have it too, but I think you'd lose an important part of yourself if you started torturing and killing people. It's a slippery slope.

Solace wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

Solace wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

fishmike wrote:

smackeddog wrote:Why are some of the media suggesting the fact that they're Chechen could be a motive? America has nothing to do with what happened in Chechnya- that's all on Russia.

Hope they catch him alive- always feels like in some way they've won when they kill themselves or die before being captured.

this... they need to waterboard the kid till he sings. Then he can rot in guatanimo until he dies of scurvy

Just like to clarify I wasn't actually saying he should be tortured, just caught and jailed.

To be honest, I would have no problem with torture either. I'm not an evil person, but if you commit an heinous premeditated act, I think it is fair, actually. Maybe that would actually be a deterrent, because jail time and death don't seem to be enough.

But isn't torturing someone a heinous premeditated act? I get the desire to see him suffer, I have it too, but I think you'd lose an important part of yourself if you started torturing and killing people. It's a slippery slope.

It's debatable. I would only want to use it in extreme cases like terrorism.

Quite sure he wont be captured alive. Which sucks.

Solace wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

fishmike wrote:

smackeddog wrote:Why are some of the media suggesting the fact that they're Chechen could be a motive? America has nothing to do with what happened in Chechnya- that's all on Russia.

Hope they catch him alive- always feels like in some way they've won when they kill themselves or die before being captured.

this... they need to waterboard the kid till he sings. Then he can rot in guatanimo until he dies of scurvy

Just like to clarify I wasn't actually saying he should be tortured, just caught and jailed.

To be honest, I would have no problem with torture either. I'm not an evil person, but if you commit an heinous premeditated act, I think it is fair, actually. Maybe that would actually be a deterrent, because jail time and death don't seem to be enough.

I most certainly have a problem with torture. If your enemies know that you will show them no quarter, they return the favor many times over. It also has an inspiring effect and galvanizes their cause

BRIGGS wrote:In almost any case I would disagree with torture. In this particular type of case--where hundreds of innocent civilians were hurt and killed in light of day--this would be the type of crime that if the perpetrator was not willing to talk--then I would do what it took to make him talk. He could hold knowledge of other plots against k's of people and if one life is damaged to save 1'ks--thats reasonable.

I had a professor in college that liked to say, "It's easier to do something 100% of the time than it is to do something 98% of the time." Slippery slope, easier and easier to justify after you make the initial concession.

I agree with Supreme's post above yours, and just to add, I do not usually trust information collected during torture. At a certain point, most people will simply tell you what they think you want to hear, whether or not they have any actual information.