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An Open Letter To Carmelo Anthony
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3/28/2013  11:49 AM
SupremeCommander wrote:
3G4G wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:I didn't really mind his numbers last night considering the Knicks straight up whipped the C's

I mind 10-30 shooting and not from just Melo....Gallo/Kobe/Lebron/Durant/Harden/Chandler.....sorry that sucks and wreaks of PURE CHUCKAGE, maybe you don't

he could have done better - for sure - but I'm not sure how much better the New York Knicks could have performed. And when the Knicks absolutely need a big game from Melo against Boston, he's good for 42, 17, 6, and 2.

Like I said, it could be better, but I think you are getting far too worked up about nothing. Sign me up for 4 of 40 if it means the Knicks win by 20.


lol you act like he's going to do this over the course of whole series....I have never seen a player live off 2-3 performances that never equaled a championship as long as Melo. Only in New York can such mere accomplishment be pulled off.

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3/28/2013  11:49 AM
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SupremeCommander wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:Game 2 happened and deserves just as much weight as each of the other 8 playoff games he's had here does.
More than half the teams make the playoffs. So, no, making the playoffs doesn't count as any kind of meaningful accomplishment. It just means you're not way below average.
I don't understand why you're setting the bar at simply being better than Isiah's teams.

you act as if we haven't made significant progress. All I'm asking is that everyone enjoy the ride - at least once - before you to take a wrecking ball to everything/spew vitriol. There's still plenty of road to haul but give me a legitimate strategy to beat Miami this year that's better than what we got, which is seeing what happens


Seems like no one saying blow it up, but rather that Melo just doesn't seem to get it in terms of putting them over the top and it's frustrating to watch even when they win. He has stretches where he tries to facilitate, which he can do well (looked good w/ Amar'e before injury), and then quickly reverts back to his old self. Last night was a perfect example, as they go from swinging the ball all over the court in the first half getting up high % and open shots to playing that hero ball bs in the 2nd half allowing Memphis right back in the game.

Of course I'm gonna enjoy the ride, but his refusal adjust his game, like he's quoted saying, makes it tough to have confidence in this squad's legitmate chances against Miami in the playoffs. So I think the better strategy would be to pick his spots better of when to start chucking.


+ 1000


Is Melo

Selfish *consitently thinking about ME ME ME MMEEMEM mentality*
Low IQ
Lack's trust in team mates
Too much pride/confidence leading to Hero Ball/CHUCKING horrible shot's
Lack's ability to create for others
Lack's leadership, athleticism, a DOMINANT/high % GO TO MOVE/ability that some of the real MVP's have, IF he doesn't have these abilities that the elites have then just don't try to play like you do, much like MOVING THE BALL/REBOUND/PLAY DEF/HELP TEAM IN OTHER AREA's when your shot isn't falling vs taking horrible shot after another

or is it one/some or ALL OF THE ABOVE, with a "I don't understand why I have this perception of me" *WITH A SMILE*
Sure he may put up similar #'s in scoring as some of the "ELITE" players but he is not efficient at it, while he lack's many skills that they have
He is a scorer, not an elite player/leader/franchise player that MELO THINKS HE IS, but he wants that glory, so we have to surround him with high IQ PLAYERS that are 40 that bow down to him and constantly stroke his ego, unfortunately 40 year olds are limited in what they can do on the court

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3/28/2013  11:54 AM    LAST EDITED: 3/28/2013  12:06 PM
tkf wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
fishmike wrote:
jrodmc wrote:To the most respected and dearly beloved HolyMoobySaviour,

Please pay no attention to the Answer Man. We all know your worth, Melo. We (and I'm speaking for most of the Homer fan contingent) all know we'd rather have you with the ball in your warm hands at the end of the game after shooting 40% or even 30% then holding our breath hoping JR catches some rim with the last second step back. While you've been getting cold watching others shoot and miss.

We all know Johnny "Crisp" Novak is not to be trusted at big spots at this point in his fledgling career. Give the boy a few more seasons. Provided he doesn't get some stupidly ridiculous contract from Charlotte or the Jazz or some such thing.

We all know you've spent two very long seasons here trying things like trusting people like Fishlips. We understand, that at times, you see RayRay and no one can fault you for having Toney Douglas flashbacks.

Thankfully, there's really no one on this squad that could even bring a shuddering thought of Landry Fields to your mind's eye. KMart is ugly, but we all know, and you as well, that he's efficient. Efficency, however, is nice in accounting. You aren't an accountant, you are a scorer. Continue to be all that you can be. You am that you am!

Keep shooting Melo. You are the only constant starhope this AARP squad has, your short stints on the IR aside. We know this. You know this. The city knows this. And most importantly, Woody knows this.

We've seen you save the bacon plenty of times these past three seasons.

Excuse me now, while I go bump the YouTube Melo thread...

Respectfully yours,
Jrod "he with the three game thread winning streak" mc

what is that worth? Some of us are wondering....

Hmmmmmmm, first in the division?
Someone on the team who's capable of scoring lots of points?
Someone on the team that Kobe considers an actual problem to guard?

I know, as a knick fan, we've ALWAYS had someone like that.

If you were wondering about the worth of the three game thread winning streak, it's currently on sale for one fishmike response.


I hear that so many times in defense of carmelo.. what value does that actually have... maybe no one else in the league feels that way...miami acutally allows battier to guard carmelo because the key is to make him shoot(since he is not efficient) and just shut down everyone else.. ok, so kobe believes that, does lebron? does wade? does anyone else? How long are people going to ride that statement that really has little value.... just curious...

Michael Jordan once said,david thompson and walter Davis were players he admired the most ? what does that mean? should we add that to their career accolades? being admired by Jordan?

Yeah, and then they put Lebron on him once Melo embarrassed Battier, like the last time the teams played. Melo was a big part of that strong first half, it was when they put Lebron on him that Melo, and the team, began to slow down. I think you've been staring at pictures of gallo too long man, get some sleep, you're not making sense.

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3/28/2013  12:12 PM
Dagger wrote:
tkf wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
fishmike wrote:
jrodmc wrote:To the most respected and dearly beloved HolyMoobySaviour,

Please pay no attention to the Answer Man. We all know your worth, Melo. We (and I'm speaking for most of the Homer fan contingent) all know we'd rather have you with the ball in your warm hands at the end of the game after shooting 40% or even 30% then holding our breath hoping JR catches some rim with the last second step back. While you've been getting cold watching others shoot and miss.

We all know Johnny "Crisp" Novak is not to be trusted at big spots at this point in his fledgling career. Give the boy a few more seasons. Provided he doesn't get some stupidly ridiculous contract from Charlotte or the Jazz or some such thing.

We all know you've spent two very long seasons here trying things like trusting people like Fishlips. We understand, that at times, you see RayRay and no one can fault you for having Toney Douglas flashbacks.

Thankfully, there's really no one on this squad that could even bring a shuddering thought of Landry Fields to your mind's eye. KMart is ugly, but we all know, and you as well, that he's efficient. Efficency, however, is nice in accounting. You aren't an accountant, you are a scorer. Continue to be all that you can be. You am that you am!

Keep shooting Melo. You are the only constant starhope this AARP squad has, your short stints on the IR aside. We know this. You know this. The city knows this. And most importantly, Woody knows this.

We've seen you save the bacon plenty of times these past three seasons.

Excuse me now, while I go bump the YouTube Melo thread...

Respectfully yours,
Jrod "he with the three game thread winning streak" mc

what is that worth? Some of us are wondering....

Hmmmmmmm, first in the division?
Someone on the team who's capable of scoring lots of points?
Someone on the team that Kobe considers an actual problem to guard?

I know, as a knick fan, we've ALWAYS had someone like that.

If you were wondering about the worth of the three game thread winning streak, it's currently on sale for one fishmike response.


I hear that so many times in defense of carmelo.. what value does that actually have... maybe no one else in the league feels that way...miami acutally allows battier to guard carmelo because the key is to make him shoot(since he is not efficient) and just shut down everyone else.. ok, so kobe believes that, does lebron? does wade? does anyone else? How long are people going to ride that statement that really has little value.... just curious...

Michael Jordan once said,david thompson and walter Davis were players he admired the most ? what does that mean? should we add that to their career accolades? being admired by Jordan?

Yeah, and then they put Lebron on him once Melo embarrassed Battier, like the last time the teams played. Melo was a big part of that strong first half, it was when they put Lebron on him that Melo, and the team, began to slow down. I think you've been staring at pictures of gallo too long man, get some sleep, you're not making sense.

yea, typical post from someone that can't defend their point without derailing with gallo talk.. typical..

as i said, they put battier on him, to make him work and toss up shots... then after he has reached his quota of 30 shots they will throw lebron to pretty much seal the deal.... smart basketball.. he is not embarrasing battier, shane is actually making him expend a lot of energy... doesn't matter if he scores or not..

again, you are not disagreeing with me, but you are too blind worrying about trying to gallo shots at me than actually proving a legit point...

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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3/28/2013  12:23 PM
tkf wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
dk7th wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
dk7th wrote:being a tough cover does not translate to being a winner. when carmelo anthony learns how to win then maybe the statement will have some merit. in the meantime it's the hollowest of praise.
He won in college. He has won in the Olympics. His team is in first in the Atlantic and second in the East. All admireable accomplishments for a team that hasn't seen even a 43 win season in over a decade.

admirable accomplishments... and utterly irrelevant.


My reaction too. Why should I give a **** if he won games in college?!

I NEVER understood why people keep using him wining in college to defend his pro career..

didn't felton win a ring in college? marvin williams? hakeem warrick?


Don't forget Marbury was awesome in high school and junior high school!
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3/28/2013  12:30 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
tkf wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
dk7th wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
dk7th wrote:being a tough cover does not translate to being a winner. when carmelo anthony learns how to win then maybe the statement will have some merit. in the meantime it's the hollowest of praise.
He won in college. He has won in the Olympics. His team is in first in the Atlantic and second in the East. All admireable accomplishments for a team that hasn't seen even a 43 win season in over a decade.

admirable accomplishments... and utterly irrelevant.


My reaction too. Why should I give a **** if he won games in college?!

I NEVER understood why people keep using him wining in college to defend his pro career..

didn't felton win a ring in college? marvin williams? hakeem warrick?


Don't forget Marbury was awesome in high school and junior high school!

rofl.....you crazy man..

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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3/28/2013  12:51 PM    LAST EDITED: 3/28/2013  12:54 PM
tkf wrote:
Dagger wrote:
tkf wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
fishmike wrote:
jrodmc wrote:To the most respected and dearly beloved HolyMoobySaviour,

Please pay no attention to the Answer Man. We all know your worth, Melo. We (and I'm speaking for most of the Homer fan contingent) all know we'd rather have you with the ball in your warm hands at the end of the game after shooting 40% or even 30% then holding our breath hoping JR catches some rim with the last second step back. While you've been getting cold watching others shoot and miss.

We all know Johnny "Crisp" Novak is not to be trusted at big spots at this point in his fledgling career. Give the boy a few more seasons. Provided he doesn't get some stupidly ridiculous contract from Charlotte or the Jazz or some such thing.

We all know you've spent two very long seasons here trying things like trusting people like Fishlips. We understand, that at times, you see RayRay and no one can fault you for having Toney Douglas flashbacks.

Thankfully, there's really no one on this squad that could even bring a shuddering thought of Landry Fields to your mind's eye. KMart is ugly, but we all know, and you as well, that he's efficient. Efficency, however, is nice in accounting. You aren't an accountant, you are a scorer. Continue to be all that you can be. You am that you am!

Keep shooting Melo. You are the only constant starhope this AARP squad has, your short stints on the IR aside. We know this. You know this. The city knows this. And most importantly, Woody knows this.

We've seen you save the bacon plenty of times these past three seasons.

Excuse me now, while I go bump the YouTube Melo thread...

Respectfully yours,
Jrod "he with the three game thread winning streak" mc

what is that worth? Some of us are wondering....

Hmmmmmmm, first in the division?
Someone on the team who's capable of scoring lots of points?
Someone on the team that Kobe considers an actual problem to guard?

I know, as a knick fan, we've ALWAYS had someone like that.

If you were wondering about the worth of the three game thread winning streak, it's currently on sale for one fishmike response.


I hear that so many times in defense of carmelo.. what value does that actually have... maybe no one else in the league feels that way...miami acutally allows battier to guard carmelo because the key is to make him shoot(since he is not efficient) and just shut down everyone else.. ok, so kobe believes that, does lebron? does wade? does anyone else? How long are people going to ride that statement that really has little value.... just curious...

Michael Jordan once said,david thompson and walter Davis were players he admired the most ? what does that mean? should we add that to their career accolades? being admired by Jordan?

Yeah, and then they put Lebron on him once Melo embarrassed Battier, like the last time the teams played. Melo was a big part of that strong first half, it was when they put Lebron on him that Melo, and the team, began to slow down. I think you've been staring at pictures of gallo too long man, get some sleep, you're not making sense.

yea, typical post from someone that can't defend their point without derailing with gallo talk.. typical..

as i said, they put battier on him, to make him work and toss up shots... then after he has reached his quota of 30 shots they will throw lebron to pretty much seal the deal.... smart basketball.. he is not embarrasing battier, shane is actually making him expend a lot of energy... doesn't matter if he scores or not..

again, you are not disagreeing with me, but you are too blind worrying about trying to gallo shots at me than actually proving a legit point...

Melo is expending energy when battier scores so it doesn't matter if he scores or not? Is this your grand argument? The same point could be made for Felton when quick, athletic guards torch him every night, since they expend energy running to the basket to throw it down. As long as you are scoring efficiently (which I know you're big on, as you should be), as melo was in the first half, you are helping your team and hurting the other team. Melo's exploitation of Battier in the first half gave them a very large advantage over the heat at halftime, it was the lack of defensive intensity and melo's difficulty scoring on lebron that lead to the outcome; the team eased up and was punished. The second half the Knicks should have gone away from melo, not because he was fatigued, but because he had a much tougher cover, yet as we know, they live and die with melo.

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3/28/2013  1:01 PM
tkf wrote:yea, typical post from someone that can't defend their point without derailing with gallo talk.. typical..

as i said, they put battier on him, to make him work and toss up shots... then after he has reached his quota of 30 shots they will throw lebron to pretty much seal the deal.... smart basketball.. he is not embarrasing battier, shane is actually making him expend a lot of energy... doesn't matter if he scores or not..

again, you are not disagreeing with me, but you are too blind worrying about trying to gallo shots at me than actually proving a legit point...


Im pretty sure its so they dont pick up fouls early guarding each other. Lebron doesnt guard Durant entire games either.
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3/28/2013  3:31 PM
Dagger wrote:
tkf wrote:
Dagger wrote:
tkf wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
fishmike wrote:
jrodmc wrote:To the most respected and dearly beloved HolyMoobySaviour,

Please pay no attention to the Answer Man. We all know your worth, Melo. We (and I'm speaking for most of the Homer fan contingent) all know we'd rather have you with the ball in your warm hands at the end of the game after shooting 40% or even 30% then holding our breath hoping JR catches some rim with the last second step back. While you've been getting cold watching others shoot and miss.

We all know Johnny "Crisp" Novak is not to be trusted at big spots at this point in his fledgling career. Give the boy a few more seasons. Provided he doesn't get some stupidly ridiculous contract from Charlotte or the Jazz or some such thing.

We all know you've spent two very long seasons here trying things like trusting people like Fishlips. We understand, that at times, you see RayRay and no one can fault you for having Toney Douglas flashbacks.

Thankfully, there's really no one on this squad that could even bring a shuddering thought of Landry Fields to your mind's eye. KMart is ugly, but we all know, and you as well, that he's efficient. Efficency, however, is nice in accounting. You aren't an accountant, you are a scorer. Continue to be all that you can be. You am that you am!

Keep shooting Melo. You are the only constant starhope this AARP squad has, your short stints on the IR aside. We know this. You know this. The city knows this. And most importantly, Woody knows this.

We've seen you save the bacon plenty of times these past three seasons.

Excuse me now, while I go bump the YouTube Melo thread...

Respectfully yours,
Jrod "he with the three game thread winning streak" mc

what is that worth? Some of us are wondering....

Hmmmmmmm, first in the division?
Someone on the team who's capable of scoring lots of points?
Someone on the team that Kobe considers an actual problem to guard?

I know, as a knick fan, we've ALWAYS had someone like that.

If you were wondering about the worth of the three game thread winning streak, it's currently on sale for one fishmike response.


I hear that so many times in defense of carmelo.. what value does that actually have... maybe no one else in the league feels that way...miami acutally allows battier to guard carmelo because the key is to make him shoot(since he is not efficient) and just shut down everyone else.. ok, so kobe believes that, does lebron? does wade? does anyone else? How long are people going to ride that statement that really has little value.... just curious...

Michael Jordan once said,david thompson and walter Davis were players he admired the most ? what does that mean? should we add that to their career accolades? being admired by Jordan?

Yeah, and then they put Lebron on him once Melo embarrassed Battier, like the last time the teams played. Melo was a big part of that strong first half, it was when they put Lebron on him that Melo, and the team, began to slow down. I think you've been staring at pictures of gallo too long man, get some sleep, you're not making sense.

yea, typical post from someone that can't defend their point without derailing with gallo talk.. typical..

as i said, they put battier on him, to make him work and toss up shots... then after he has reached his quota of 30 shots they will throw lebron to pretty much seal the deal.... smart basketball.. he is not embarrasing battier, shane is actually making him expend a lot of energy... doesn't matter if he scores or not..

again, you are not disagreeing with me, but you are too blind worrying about trying to gallo shots at me than actually proving a legit point...

Melo is expending energy when battier scores so it doesn't matter if he scores or not? Is this your grand argument? The same point could be made for Felton when quick, athletic guards torch him every night, since they expend energy running to the basket to throw it down. As long as you are scoring efficiently (which I know you're big on, as you should be), as melo was in the first half, you are helping your team and hurting the other team. Melo's exploitation of Battier in the first half gave them a very large advantage over the heat at halftime, it was the lack of defensive intensity and melo's difficulty scoring on lebron that lead to the outcome; the team eased up and was punished. The second half the Knicks should have gone away from melo, not because he was fatigued, but because he had a much tougher cover, yet as we know, they live and die with melo.

my argument is simple... let carmelo kill himself scoring points, missing.. it doesn't matter.. he does nothing else to affect the game.. he doesn't pass, defend or make any one else better. so letting carmelo shoot and shoot, and shoot is not a big concern for a team like miami..

The same point could be made for Felton when quick, athletic guards torch him every night, since they expend energy running to the basket to throw it down.

no it isn't.. when a guard is consistently beating felton, it creates problems for the defense and opportunities for other teamates... that guard can pass to open teamates, it forces defenses to rotate leaving offensive rebounds open.. it creates other problems... why is that hard to understand?

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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3/28/2013  5:15 PM
Dagger wrote:
tkf wrote:
Dagger wrote:
tkf wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
fishmike wrote:
jrodmc wrote:To the most respected and dearly beloved HolyMoobySaviour,

Please pay no attention to the Answer Man. We all know your worth, Melo. We (and I'm speaking for most of the Homer fan contingent) all know we'd rather have you with the ball in your warm hands at the end of the game after shooting 40% or even 30% then holding our breath hoping JR catches some rim with the last second step back. While you've been getting cold watching others shoot and miss.

We all know Johnny "Crisp" Novak is not to be trusted at big spots at this point in his fledgling career. Give the boy a few more seasons. Provided he doesn't get some stupidly ridiculous contract from Charlotte or the Jazz or some such thing.

We all know you've spent two very long seasons here trying things like trusting people like Fishlips. We understand, that at times, you see RayRay and no one can fault you for having Toney Douglas flashbacks.

Thankfully, there's really no one on this squad that could even bring a shuddering thought of Landry Fields to your mind's eye. KMart is ugly, but we all know, and you as well, that he's efficient. Efficency, however, is nice in accounting. You aren't an accountant, you are a scorer. Continue to be all that you can be. You am that you am!

Keep shooting Melo. You are the only constant starhope this AARP squad has, your short stints on the IR aside. We know this. You know this. The city knows this. And most importantly, Woody knows this.

We've seen you save the bacon plenty of times these past three seasons.

Excuse me now, while I go bump the YouTube Melo thread...

Respectfully yours,
Jrod "he with the three game thread winning streak" mc

what is that worth? Some of us are wondering....

Hmmmmmmm, first in the division?
Someone on the team who's capable of scoring lots of points?
Someone on the team that Kobe considers an actual problem to guard?

I know, as a knick fan, we've ALWAYS had someone like that.

If you were wondering about the worth of the three game thread winning streak, it's currently on sale for one fishmike response.


I hear that so many times in defense of carmelo.. what value does that actually have... maybe no one else in the league feels that way...miami acutally allows battier to guard carmelo because the key is to make him shoot(since he is not efficient) and just shut down everyone else.. ok, so kobe believes that, does lebron? does wade? does anyone else? How long are people going to ride that statement that really has little value.... just curious...

Michael Jordan once said,david thompson and walter Davis were players he admired the most ? what does that mean? should we add that to their career accolades? being admired by Jordan?

Yeah, and then they put Lebron on him once Melo embarrassed Battier, like the last time the teams played. Melo was a big part of that strong first half, it was when they put Lebron on him that Melo, and the team, began to slow down. I think you've been staring at pictures of gallo too long man, get some sleep, you're not making sense.

yea, typical post from someone that can't defend their point without derailing with gallo talk.. typical..

as i said, they put battier on him, to make him work and toss up shots... then after he has reached his quota of 30 shots they will throw lebron to pretty much seal the deal.... smart basketball.. he is not embarrasing battier, shane is actually making him expend a lot of energy... doesn't matter if he scores or not..

again, you are not disagreeing with me, but you are too blind worrying about trying to gallo shots at me than actually proving a legit point...

Melo is expending energy when battier scores so it doesn't matter if he scores or not? Is this your grand argument? The same point could be made for Felton when quick, athletic guards torch him every night, since they expend energy running to the basket to throw it down. As long as you are scoring efficiently (which I know you're big on, as you should be), as melo was in the first half, you are helping your team and hurting the other team. Melo's exploitation of Battier in the first half gave them a very large advantage over the heat at halftime, it was the lack of defensive intensity and melo's difficulty scoring on lebron that lead to the outcome; the team eased up and was punished. The second half the Knicks should have gone away from melo, not because he was fatigued, but because he had a much tougher cover, yet as we know, they live and die with melo.

you don't seem to grasp exploiting a scorer's weaknesses. the heat are strategizing-- they are rope-a-doping poor carmelo.

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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3/28/2013  5:28 PM
3G4G wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:I didn't really mind his numbers last night considering the Knicks straight up whipped the C's

I mind 10-30 shooting and not from just Melo....Gallo/Kobe/Lebron/Durant/Harden/Chandler.....sorry that sucks and wreaks of PURE CHUCKAGE, maybe you don't

Yeah but a lot of his points were on put backs on his own shots which means he is driving and getting to the basket. He had some tough shooting moments in that game but he had at least two or three put backs of his own misses.
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3/28/2013  5:40 PM
Team wins...fans complain.

Team loses...fans complain.

Maybe it isn't really about the team....

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3/28/2013  8:33 PM
knickscity wrote:Team wins...fans complain.

Team loses...fans complain.

Maybe it isn't really about the team....

You have to sift through the muck and pull out the solid analysis & criticism, & leave behind the outright hate & shilling. It's actually pretty easy to do on this board. The vast majority at UK are reasonably intelligent & either love the Knicks or love the concept of the Knicks. There are some who love the team & root hard for them, yet are absolutely capable of great analysis & criticism. Those are the posters I go out of my way to read (& sit near at the cool kids table ;).

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3/28/2013  9:12 PM
Dagger wrote:
tkf wrote:
Dagger wrote:
tkf wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
fishmike wrote:
jrodmc wrote:To the most respected and dearly beloved HolyMoobySaviour,

Please pay no attention to the Answer Man. We all know your worth, Melo. We (and I'm speaking for most of the Homer fan contingent) all know we'd rather have you with the ball in your warm hands at the end of the game after shooting 40% or even 30% then holding our breath hoping JR catches some rim with the last second step back. While you've been getting cold watching others shoot and miss.

We all know Johnny "Crisp" Novak is not to be trusted at big spots at this point in his fledgling career. Give the boy a few more seasons. Provided he doesn't get some stupidly ridiculous contract from Charlotte or the Jazz or some such thing.

We all know you've spent two very long seasons here trying things like trusting people like Fishlips. We understand, that at times, you see RayRay and no one can fault you for having Toney Douglas flashbacks.

Thankfully, there's really no one on this squad that could even bring a shuddering thought of Landry Fields to your mind's eye. KMart is ugly, but we all know, and you as well, that he's efficient. Efficency, however, is nice in accounting. You aren't an accountant, you are a scorer. Continue to be all that you can be. You am that you am!

Keep shooting Melo. You are the only constant starhope this AARP squad has, your short stints on the IR aside. We know this. You know this. The city knows this. And most importantly, Woody knows this.

We've seen you save the bacon plenty of times these past three seasons.

Excuse me now, while I go bump the YouTube Melo thread...

Respectfully yours,
Jrod "he with the three game thread winning streak" mc

what is that worth? Some of us are wondering....

Hmmmmmmm, first in the division?
Someone on the team who's capable of scoring lots of points?
Someone on the team that Kobe considers an actual problem to guard?

I know, as a knick fan, we've ALWAYS had someone like that.

If you were wondering about the worth of the three game thread winning streak, it's currently on sale for one fishmike response.


I hear that so many times in defense of carmelo.. what value does that actually have... maybe no one else in the league feels that way...miami acutally allows battier to guard carmelo because the key is to make him shoot(since he is not efficient) and just shut down everyone else.. ok, so kobe believes that, does lebron? does wade? does anyone else? How long are people going to ride that statement that really has little value.... just curious...

Michael Jordan once said,david thompson and walter Davis were players he admired the most ? what does that mean? should we add that to their career accolades? being admired by Jordan?

Yeah, and then they put Lebron on him once Melo embarrassed Battier, like the last time the teams played. Melo was a big part of that strong first half, it was when they put Lebron on him that Melo, and the team, began to slow down. I think you've been staring at pictures of gallo too long man, get some sleep, you're not making sense.

yea, typical post from someone that can't defend their point without derailing with gallo talk.. typical..

as i said, they put battier on him, to make him work and toss up shots... then after he has reached his quota of 30 shots they will throw lebron to pretty much seal the deal.... smart basketball.. he is not embarrasing battier, shane is actually making him expend a lot of energy... doesn't matter if he scores or not..

again, you are not disagreeing with me, but you are too blind worrying about trying to gallo shots at me than actually proving a legit point...

Melo is expending energy when battier scores so it doesn't matter if he scores or not? Is this your grand argument? The same point could be made for Felton when quick, athletic guards torch him every night, since they expend energy running to the basket to throw it down. As long as you are scoring efficiently (which I know you're big on, as you should be), as melo was in the first half, you are helping your team and hurting the other team. Melo's exploitation of Battier in the first half gave them a very large advantage over the heat at halftime, it was the lack of defensive intensity and melo's difficulty scoring on lebron that lead to the outcome; the team eased up and was punished. The second half the Knicks should have gone away from melo, not because he was fatigued, but because he had a much tougher cover, yet as we know, they live and die with melo.

Papabear Says

Good point. No matter who plays the Knicks their priority is containing Melo. Melo is the force and because of him we have a chance of winning 50 games for the first time in a very long time. You can say what you want but Melo is the Alfa dog. He may have bad nights but when others step up and score its because teams are more worried about Melo. Melo is not perfect and not the MVP but without him we go nowhere in the playoffs. Last night he was guarding Zach Randolph as big and strong as Zach is and Melo stood his ground. I am very happy that we have him on this team. And if we win a championship this season or next. There will be those who will still dislike him. But as for me I am really enjoying my Knicks right now.

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3/28/2013  9:31 PM
knickscity wrote:Team wins...fans complain.

Team loses...fans complain.

Maybe it isn't really about the team....

Papabear Says

I'm now trying not to get bent out of shape about what people say on this forum. We have been arguing since Melo came here. I believe we have a good team. The best in many of years and still the hate comes at a worst past. I am now just reading posts that I feel are fair all around. They are times Melo and the team needs to be critasized and other times just say some positive things. After all we are suposed to be Knicks fans?? I found how to use the ignore button and it sure works for me.

Papabear
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3/28/2013  9:54 PM
dk7th wrote:
Dagger wrote:
tkf wrote:
Dagger wrote:
tkf wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
fishmike wrote:
jrodmc wrote:To the most respected and dearly beloved HolyMoobySaviour,

Please pay no attention to the Answer Man. We all know your worth, Melo. We (and I'm speaking for most of the Homer fan contingent) all know we'd rather have you with the ball in your warm hands at the end of the game after shooting 40% or even 30% then holding our breath hoping JR catches some rim with the last second step back. While you've been getting cold watching others shoot and miss.

We all know Johnny "Crisp" Novak is not to be trusted at big spots at this point in his fledgling career. Give the boy a few more seasons. Provided he doesn't get some stupidly ridiculous contract from Charlotte or the Jazz or some such thing.

We all know you've spent two very long seasons here trying things like trusting people like Fishlips. We understand, that at times, you see RayRay and no one can fault you for having Toney Douglas flashbacks.

Thankfully, there's really no one on this squad that could even bring a shuddering thought of Landry Fields to your mind's eye. KMart is ugly, but we all know, and you as well, that he's efficient. Efficency, however, is nice in accounting. You aren't an accountant, you are a scorer. Continue to be all that you can be. You am that you am!

Keep shooting Melo. You are the only constant starhope this AARP squad has, your short stints on the IR aside. We know this. You know this. The city knows this. And most importantly, Woody knows this.

We've seen you save the bacon plenty of times these past three seasons.

Excuse me now, while I go bump the YouTube Melo thread...

Respectfully yours,
Jrod "he with the three game thread winning streak" mc

what is that worth? Some of us are wondering....

Hmmmmmmm, first in the division?
Someone on the team who's capable of scoring lots of points?
Someone on the team that Kobe considers an actual problem to guard?

I know, as a knick fan, we've ALWAYS had someone like that.

If you were wondering about the worth of the three game thread winning streak, it's currently on sale for one fishmike response.


I hear that so many times in defense of carmelo.. what value does that actually have... maybe no one else in the league feels that way...miami acutally allows battier to guard carmelo because the key is to make him shoot(since he is not efficient) and just shut down everyone else.. ok, so kobe believes that, does lebron? does wade? does anyone else? How long are people going to ride that statement that really has little value.... just curious...

Michael Jordan once said,david thompson and walter Davis were players he admired the most ? what does that mean? should we add that to their career accolades? being admired by Jordan?

Yeah, and then they put Lebron on him once Melo embarrassed Battier, like the last time the teams played. Melo was a big part of that strong first half, it was when they put Lebron on him that Melo, and the team, began to slow down. I think you've been staring at pictures of gallo too long man, get some sleep, you're not making sense.

yea, typical post from someone that can't defend their point without derailing with gallo talk.. typical..

as i said, they put battier on him, to make him work and toss up shots... then after he has reached his quota of 30 shots they will throw lebron to pretty much seal the deal.... smart basketball.. he is not embarrasing battier, shane is actually making him expend a lot of energy... doesn't matter if he scores or not..

again, you are not disagreeing with me, but you are too blind worrying about trying to gallo shots at me than actually proving a legit point...

Melo is expending energy when battier scores so it doesn't matter if he scores or not? Is this your grand argument? The same point could be made for Felton when quick, athletic guards torch him every night, since they expend energy running to the basket to throw it down. As long as you are scoring efficiently (which I know you're big on, as you should be), as melo was in the first half, you are helping your team and hurting the other team. Melo's exploitation of Battier in the first half gave them a very large advantage over the heat at halftime, it was the lack of defensive intensity and melo's difficulty scoring on lebron that lead to the outcome; the team eased up and was punished. The second half the Knicks should have gone away from melo, not because he was fatigued, but because he had a much tougher cover, yet as we know, they live and die with melo.

you don't seem to grasp exploiting a scorer's weaknesses. the heat are strategizing-- they are rope-a-doping poor carmelo.

If letting a guy go off on you for a full half of a basketball game, so much so that you dig yourself in a huge hole at halftime, is clever strategy, then I would suggest rethinking your strategy. I would say it's fair to guess the Heat did not want to be down 17 at the half. Bottom line is the Knicks did not execute down the stretch and relaxed their focus. Letting melo exploit Battier was not a means to an end, and Lebron switching onto him was not the "gameplan" to finish him, as tkf suggested, it was an adjustment because Battier simply wasn't up to snuff. Granted, what you are insinuating could have potentially been a viable strategy, IF melo couldn't score efficiently on his assigned man. However, Battier was clearly not the man for the job and the heat got unnecessarily burned. They may have won the game, but they made it an uphill battle from the get-go.

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3/29/2013  8:42 AM
Papabear wrote:
knickscity wrote:Team wins...fans complain.

Team loses...fans complain.

Maybe it isn't really about the team....

Papabear Says

I'm now trying not to get bent out of shape about what people say on this forum. We have been arguing since Melo came here. I believe we have a good team. The best in many of years and still the hate comes at a worst past. I am now just reading posts that I feel are fair all around. They are times Melo and the team needs to be critasized and other times just say some positive things. After all we are suposed to be Knicks fans?? I found how to use the ignore button and it sure works for me.

This team is fun to root for! That's what I hoped for this season and have gotten it- continued good vibes into the playoffs!

If you are still following the team and reading sites like this, there is nothing, short of your own demise, that is going to throw you off this train.
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3/29/2013  8:51 AM
93BUICK wrote:
Papabear wrote:
knickscity wrote:Team wins...fans complain.

Team loses...fans complain.

Maybe it isn't really about the team....

Papabear Says

I'm now trying not to get bent out of shape about what people say on this forum. We have been arguing since Melo came here. I believe we have a good team. The best in many of years and still the hate comes at a worst past. I am now just reading posts that I feel are fair all around. They are times Melo and the team needs to be critasized and other times just say some positive things. After all we are suposed to be Knicks fans?? I found how to use the ignore button and it sure works for me.

This team is fun to root for! That's what I hoped for this season and have gotten it- continued good vibes into the playoffs!

it's been a fantastic ride thus far (yes, I just used 'thus') after a long time of no ride at all

DLeethal wrote: Lol Rick needs a safe space
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3/29/2013  8:58 AM
SupremeCommander wrote:
93BUICK wrote:
Papabear wrote:
knickscity wrote:Team wins...fans complain.

Team loses...fans complain.

Maybe it isn't really about the team....

Papabear Says

I'm now trying not to get bent out of shape about what people say on this forum. We have been arguing since Melo came here. I believe we have a good team. The best in many of years and still the hate comes at a worst past. I am now just reading posts that I feel are fair all around. They are times Melo and the team needs to be critasized and other times just say some positive things. After all we are suposed to be Knicks fans?? I found how to use the ignore button and it sure works for me.

This team is fun to root for! That's what I hoped for this season and have gotten it- continued good vibes into the playoffs!

it's been a fantastic ride thus far (yes, I just used 'thus') after a long time of no ride at all

I wonder if anyone actually appreciates all the fun Melo has brought to this team. He polarizes the posters on here, and he generates conversation. Being a lightning rod for hate is not a great gig, but hey, it beats the living crap out of discussing Anthony Randolph's or Moz's potential or (hey tkf, boo!) Gallo's possible fragility.

And like it or not, he generates wins.

Beat the effing tar out of those Bobcats! All four quarters, gentlemen! No let up!

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