holfresh wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:Look I dont hate melo. I think he is a great scorer. But people act like he an elite player who has had playoff success. For the most part he has been a first round exit every year. I dont wnat to trade him but if the right deal came along that gave us a very good young player and draft picks then i would do it in a heartbeat

Crazy first round exit comments without examining who they played and what the circumstances were..How on earth were Melo to beat Bron and Wade with our entire team decimated last year..and Boston the year before???...How??...Dude is a top five player...

Oh Lord i should have known if i say anything even remotely critical about melo holfresh will go nuts lol. Look I never said to trade him but if we get offered a good package then you have to do it

If you should say something critical??...How about making sense then...U should say, If I say something that don't make sense Holfresh will be all over me...I'll trade him for the right package as well..U aren't breaking any ground here..But Blake Griffin and Jordan for Melo and Chandler is crazy...Care to expalin the first round exit comments???

Solace wrote:If we lose this year, with the age of this roster, honestly, you have to consider it.

But the truth is, it has a 0% chance of happening. Melo will be on the Knicks for life, barring him causing a media nightmare that makes Dolan reconsider. until the Knicks, afraid of letting him walk for nothing, trade him for a future version of broken down Glen Rice and Luke Longley.

Fixed. Who has ever been a Knick for life?

DurzoBlint wrote:forget Melo, some genius needs to come up with a way to move Amare's useless ass.

This was supposed to be team with 2allstars. If Melo had that 2nd option next to him, teams wouldn't be able put so much focus into stopping Melo. Not saying Melo isn't a flawed player but, he'd be better with a 2nd threat out there on the floor.

Very hard to trade Amare until he becomes an expiring contract which is next year.

DurzoBlint wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:forget Melo, some genius needs to come up with a way to move Amare's useless ass.

This was supposed to be team with 2allstars. If Melo had that 2nd option next to him, teams wouldn't be able put so much focus into stopping Melo. Not saying Melo isn't a flawed player but, he'd be better with a 2nd threat out there on the floor.

Very hard to trade Amare until he becomes an expiring contract which is next year.

I know but, I think much of Melo's struggles have 2 do with him being the primary scorer when the plan was for us to have 2 Allstars. You can't rely on the roll players to always come thru when the one allstar you have is having a bad game. That's why teams need 2

Knicks will need to sweeten the pot to trade Amare. It would need to happen after the draft since they can't trade their 1st round pick. Select the player then add as sweetener with Shumpert to package with Amare. Then you need another team that can actually send you back a ton of contract that will equal Amare, Shumpert and the rookie 1st rounder. That is a lot to ask.

Bonn1997 wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:forget Melo, some genius needs to come up with a way to move Amare's useless ass.

This was supposed to be team with 2allstars. If Melo had that 2nd option next to him, teams wouldn't be able put so much focus into stopping Melo. Not saying Melo isn't a flawed player but, he'd be better with a 2nd threat out there on the floor.

And it is a team with 2 all-stars!

Tyson is an Allstar in Name but, not in production :(

Bonn1997 wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:forget Melo, some genius needs to come up with a way to move Amare's useless ass.

This was supposed to be team with 2allstars. If Melo had that 2nd option next to him, teams wouldn't be able put so much focus into stopping Melo. Not saying Melo isn't a flawed player but, he'd be better with a 2nd threat out there on the floor.

And it is a team with 2 all-stars!

Tyson is an Allstar in Name but, not in production :(

I'd agree as far as the post-season has gone but Melo has not produced like an all-star either in the post-season. We've basically been a star-free but pretty deep team in the post-season.

I thought he played well in games one and two of the Boston series but, for the most part, you are spot on. I was so pissed at his refusal to pass to the open man even when triple teamed. I'm not going to turn on him but, my glasses aren't nearly as rose colored as they were.

DurzoBlint wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:forget Melo, some genius needs to come up with a way to move Amare's useless ass.

This was supposed to be team with 2allstars. If Melo had that 2nd option next to him, teams wouldn't be able put so much focus into stopping Melo. Not saying Melo isn't a flawed player but, he'd be better with a 2nd threat out there on the floor.

And it is a team with 2 all-stars!

Tyson is an Allstar in Name but, not in production :(

I'd agree as far as the post-season has gone but Melo has not produced like an all-star either in the post-season. We've basically been a star-free but pretty deep team in the post-season.

I thought he played well in games one and two of the Boston series but, for the most part, you are spot on. I was so pissed at his refusal to pass to the open man even when triple teamed. I'm not going to turn on him but, my glasses aren't nearly as rose colored as they were.

DurzoBlint wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:forget Melo, some genius needs to come up with a way to move Amare's useless ass.

This was supposed to be team with 2allstars. If Melo had that 2nd option next to him, teams wouldn't be able put so much focus into stopping Melo. Not saying Melo isn't a flawed player but, he'd be better with a 2nd threat out there on the floor.

And it is a team with 2 all-stars!

Tyson is an Allstar in Name but, not in production :(

Melo is playing with what most players don't play with and that's...

A DPOY

&

A 6th MOY

So you don't like J.R. and Felton as 2nd options?

Tyson - this season - has not even resembled the man won the DPOY and JR doesn't even resemble the man that won the 6th man award just a few weeks ago. His performance in the playoffs is a complete return to the player we has last season except last season he was a good facilitator. So far in the playoffs, he been playing a bunch of Iso-Earl, passing to no one.

Bonn1997 wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:I just don't remember him seeming so flawed in Denver

He's aging. It's an example of the often overlooked downhill trajectory NBA players begin to experience in their late 20s. He's taking more shots and the points are up but his performance is down in everything else. The drop in rebounding is partly obscured because you get more rebounds playing PF than SF just because you're closer to the basket.

myself and 3g mentioned this.. people didn't like it.. but carmelo and amare have a lot of miles on their bodies.. and their style of play.. especially carmelo only seems to hasten the natural decline players experience..

tkf wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:I just don't remember him seeming so flawed in Denver

I do....

Dude I have known you on boards for 10 yrs man and you haven't shown any growth with your narrow mindedness towards players or coaches you dislike on the knicks.

Swish where are you man ?