3G4G wrote:

tkf wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Silverfuel wrote:

Knixkik wrote:I will keep this short. I have been here since the beginning and this is the first time this team has been in first place in the Atlantic and most negative it has ever been in here. You would think that because we were so bad all these years the focus would be on holding the division lead and winning a playoff series instead of the blame game on our stars and how to blow the team up. Any positive talk here is out of place. Some of the comments in these posts are just disturbing. You make a positive comment and people respond "can I have what you are smoking." This isn't right. The injuries add insult to injury but this board is crazy. I know people post here to vent but the "no hope" speech is getting old. Hopefully we can get healthy and get some rhythm going before the playoffs. I consider myself a level headed Knicks fan and will not forfeit to the overwhelming negativity that is the majority here.

I completely agree. It's gotten real bad on this forum. I agree that people would rather the Knicks lose with Melo just to say I told you so.

Then why stay? I don't want you to leave but I just never understood it when people started threads complaining about the forum. There are so many different forums out there you could choose from. It's like a millionaire who complains about how bad his car is rather than just buying a new one.

This forum has been great for 12 years. It's the so-called fans who drive it down trying to prove Melo is a grabage player and we were a better team with Gallo etc. It's the ones who try to prove a point every time. Not the real fans. We have a lot of Nuggets fans on this board, we will put it that way. General negative talk is fine and needs to be there. But there is a major divide here with true fans and Melo-hating fans.

I respectfully challenge you to find any post where the so called haters, including and especially myself are trying to prove melo is garbage... where we or I said he was garbage.. or that maybe, he isn't the guy you make this kind of trade for and build around? If you are honest, you will just admit that some of us hated the trade because we didn't feel carmelo was that kind of player at all....and on top of that has shown a history of being a selfish player... that doesn't make him garbage, just not the right kind of guy to disrupt what walsh was doing here.. why make such a post in which you know deep down is just not true?

and BTW, I am one of those who has been here 12 years....

I guess when you post stuff like....

No Finals MVPs

No Finals appearances

Only 1 WCF appearance in 10yrs, otherwise perpetual 1st round exits

No Scoring Titles

No All-NBA 1st Teams Offense or Defense

No Regular Season MVPs

No All-Star MVPs

Missing All-Star Badges

No DPOY Awards

Not A Top 5 or 10 Player

Not A Very Efficient Player

Not A 2-Way Player

Volume Scorer With Bad Shot Selection

Not A Committed Defender

A Meddler Of Player Contracts

Financially Greedy

Loses Cool Easily Waits By Buses

Bad Body Language

Laughs During Blowout Losses

Style Of Play Is Archaic

Talks Tough Street Talk

Acts Unprofessional In the Olympics

Thinks More of Himself Than Necessary

Has More Than 12 Apostles

Has More Than a Myriad Of Lobbyyists

Wishy Washy About Injuries

Quits On Coaches

Argues Calls In Games While Not Getting Back On D

You're a HATER

As of now my hands and fingers hurt but I'll continue with another 20-30 accurate observations

Wow, what a list! I try to support some of what Melo is and does, but I can't argue with you.
Look, it is clear Melo needs talent around him to succeed and we don't have a #2 scorer since Lin left. We are between a rock and a hard place.

Knixkik wrote:I will keep this short. I have been here since the beginning and this is the first time this team has been in first place in the Atlantic and most negative it has ever been in here. You would think that because we were so bad all these years the focus would be on holding the division lead and winning a playoff series instead of the blame game on our stars and how to blow the team up. Any positive talk here is out of place. Some of the comments in these posts are just disturbing. You make a positive comment and people respond "can I have what you are smoking." This isn't right. The injuries add insult to injury but this board is crazy. I know people post here to vent but the "no hope" speech is getting old. Hopefully we can get healthy and get some rhythm going before the playoffs. I consider myself a level headed Knicks fan and will not forfeit to the overwhelming negativity that is the majority here.

I agree- I don't mind despair or criticism or people not liking players, but I get irritated when people start gloating about it (I'm a sore loser!) and constant negativity even when we were winning (oh the wins don't count, only losses do, etc etc), it's like taking your new car out on a road trip with a front seat passenger who complains about everything to do with the car and your driving the whole trip- robs the enjoyment out of the experience.

I did not like him as a nugget. His previous reputation as a smug punk and as one who had a fight in MSG to which he looked bad did not sit well with me. Its not like I dispected his talent. I give him a chance and I think he has done a very good job as a knick espcially in stretches! He seems to have matured a bit and I like him. I don't worship him but I like him.

Spree came in with a bad reputation having lost his contract for the chocking incident. I was thought the incident was awful but agree it was a private matter and should not have lost his contract and suspended for as long as he did. I respected his talent and liked him as a knick, but not love him. The off season drama of him being late to camp seemingly every preseason was not cool with me.

Neither is my favorite knick.

Bernard King came in with a reputation of being aloof and detached from his previous two teams. In NY be was very differnet as he became INTENSE and was amazing. His knicks made a nice playoff run and had some veyr nice KNick moments as teh leader of the team. He was loved for it.

I don't know why the divide on the board but as a "somber" or "centrist" as I been called I kind of enjoy the discussions and the team but really don't get that bent out of shape. I lay back and moderate my particiapation to NOT be in every conversation. Many are redundant.

smackeddog wrote:

Knixkik wrote:I will keep this short. I have been here since the beginning and this is the first time this team has been in first place in the Atlantic and most negative it has ever been in here. You would think that because we were so bad all these years the focus would be on holding the division lead and winning a playoff series instead of the blame game on our stars and how to blow the team up. Any positive talk here is out of place. Some of the comments in these posts are just disturbing. You make a positive comment and people respond "can I have what you are smoking." This isn't right. The injuries add insult to injury but this board is crazy. I know people post here to vent but the "no hope" speech is getting old. Hopefully we can get healthy and get some rhythm going before the playoffs. I consider myself a level headed Knicks fan and will not forfeit to the overwhelming negativity that is the majority here.

I agree- I don't mind despair or criticism or people not liking players, but I get irritated when people start gloating about it (I'm a sore loser!) and constant negativity even when we were winning (oh the wins don't count, only losses do, etc etc), it's like taking your new car out on a road trip with a front seat passenger who complains about everything to do with the car and your driving the whole trip- robs the enjoyment out of the experience.

Its a fair point.

The car should speak for itself......as the knicks play should theirs.

Problem is when its good you have some that think it will last forever and when it does not call for new coach or trades.

I don't do trade threads, new coach's or game threads. No Lin threads, pro melo threads or Anti Melo threads.

I will set up a game thread from time to time. But not chat during a game.

dk7th wrote:
there's a difference between driving to lefrak city on the lie and driving up the pacific coast highway to carmel by the sea.

Hahaha, that is effing classic! See, how can you think this board is fading with a gem like that?!?

Knixkik wrote:I will keep this short. I have been here since the beginning and this is the first time this team has been in first place in the Atlantic and most negative it has ever been in here. You would think that because we were so bad all these years the focus would be on holding the division lead and winning a playoff series instead of the blame game on our stars and how to blow the team up. Any positive talk here is out of place. Some of the comments in these posts are just disturbing. You make a positive comment and people respond "can I have what you are smoking." This isn't right. The injuries add insult to injury but this board is crazy. I know people post here to vent but the "no hope" speech is getting old. Hopefully we can get healthy and get some rhythm going before the playoffs. I consider myself a level headed Knicks fan and will not forfeit to the overwhelming negativity that is the majority here.

playa2 wrote:

tkf wrote:

playa2 wrote:

Knixkik wrote:I will keep this short. I have been here since the beginning and this is the first time this team has been in first place in the Atlantic and most negative it has ever been in here. You would think that because we were so bad all these years the focus would be on holding the division lead and winning a playoff series instead of the blame game on our stars and how to blow the team up. Any positive talk here is out of place. Some of the comments in these posts are just disturbing. You make a positive comment and people respond "can I have what you are smoking." This isn't right. The injuries add insult to injury but this board is crazy. I know people post here to vent but the "no hope" speech is getting old. Hopefully we can get healthy and get some rhythm going before the playoffs. I consider myself a level headed Knicks fan and will not forfeit to the overwhelming negativity that is the majority here.

I agree, some act as if the neighbors wife who 8-10 yrs younger than his own wife is better to give compliments too. Get a divorce, your wife gave you children and takes care of them, but you yearn for something younger that doesn't have a guarantee to handle pressure when it arises.

Go and root for the rockets and nuggets you can show those fans how much you love those teams.

Not needed here nuff said !

why can't your neighbors wife look attractive, yet you still love your wife and kids? the great thing about sports and being a fan, it is like being in an African country where you can have many wives.. one wife may be a great cook, the other a great person to converse with, yet they all serve a purpose.. but you have that main wife, the one that lives in your house.. and when she is showing you that she doesn't have your best interest at heart then maybe you need to go visit your other wives for a minute, until your main wife can get it together....

So yes, I go to the nuggets board, the rockets board, the warriors board, I watch the nets sometimes, the Hawks, doesn't mean I hate the knicks, or need a divorce..... I am a NBA fan, but over the past few years, I have realized that this team, doesn't seem to care much about me" the fan" as I do about it. So now I diversify my time, and money...It is my right to do so, and doesn't make me any less of a fan.. if anything It has made me more objective when it comes to evaluating this team..

This is not Africa or Utah, it's called polygamy. You try giving you neighbors wife compliments in front of him , you might just get your dress shirt wrinkled.

I think they would love to hear you talk about and say how great the Rockets and Nuggets teams are on their site, go for it bro. Watching teams as a fan is great but talking about them in a knicks thread outside of the one designated for other NBA games and teams is just trolling, cmon man , you're better than that .

If you secure with who you are, and your wife is true, its not a threat.

I said for a long time its not about other teams, its about the knicks taking care of their own business! why you threatened by Rockets and Denver talk? You afraid they may be better?

Knixkik wrote:I will keep this short. I have been here since the beginning and this is the first time this team has been in first place in the Atlantic and most negative it has ever been in here. You would think that because we were so bad all these years the focus would be on holding the division lead and winning a playoff series instead of the blame game on our stars and how to blow the team up. Any positive talk here is out of place. Some of the comments in these posts are just disturbing. You make a positive comment and people respond "can I have what you are smoking." This isn't right. The injuries add insult to injury but this board is crazy. I know people post here to vent but the "no hope" speech is getting old. Hopefully we can get healthy and get some rhythm going before the playoffs. I consider myself a level headed Knicks fan and will not forfeit to the overwhelming negativity that is the majority here.

Papabear Says

They will only be happy when we become a lottery team again. My advice to you is to just enjoy the season and let them waddle in their missery. I see how this forum is turning and you can't stop it so if it's not put under control it will be totally in their hands and a lot of good Knicks fans will be disappointed. I am so fed up.

dk7th wrote:

Knixkik wrote:I will keep this short. I have been here since the beginning and this is the first time this team has been in first place in the Atlantic and most negative it has ever been in here. You would think that because we were so bad all these years the focus would be on holding the division lead and winning a playoff series instead of the blame game on our stars and how to blow the team up. Any positive talk here is out of place. Some of the comments in these posts are just disturbing. You make a positive comment and people respond "can I have what you are smoking." This isn't right. The injuries add insult to injury but this board is crazy. I know people post here to vent but the "no hope" speech is getting old. Hopefully we can get healthy and get some rhythm going before the playoffs. I consider myself a level headed Knicks fan and will not forfeit to the overwhelming negativity that is the majority here.

since dolan has taken over he has driven the knicks into irrelevance. stern gave the knicks fans a break when he interceded on our behalf and forced dolan to bring in a competent man to clean up dolan and thomas's mess. we all waited for two entire years as we saw, for the first time in memory, the team being torn down so that it had a genuine shot at being built from the ground up and the right way.

after those two seasons, we the fans had every right to expect that money would be spent on a franchise player, or if not an outright franchise player, at least a big name. that turned out to be stoudemire. lebron led everyone on and we had to act and walsh did. to not acquire a big name would have been impossible. it would have been brave but it was simply untenable.

the knicks were headed for the playoffs in 2010-2011. at 28-26 they also had a ton of money and they had the nuggets over a barrel. they could have gone 9-19 the rest of the season and they still would have made the playoffs and yes would also have been eliminated in the playoffs.

but they would have had room to build and grow based on who was there-- amare stoudemire. they could have gone another season with felton and then allow his contract to expire while shopping for an upgrade at point guard.

then this season we would still be growing, while remaining a younger team. there would be no pressure or expectation to win now. instaed of youth and energy the knicks are the all-viagra team.

you can't go from roster flush to win-now in the nba without collusion. but the blithe dolan doesn't care about that-- and neither does melo. this comment he made befored the game last night of two to three years of getting his feet wet is total bs. what a crock. shameless!

the knicks are spiraling into irrelevance again. no offense but this was a fool's gold team as of february 2011.

you're upset but make sure you direct your upset in the right direction.

dk7th Why are you still a Knicks Fan?? All you do all day is put up negative posts about Melo the Knicks. Melo Melo. Thats all you talk about. Man it's sick!!