Marc Berman ‏@NYPost_Berman
Remember Mozgov? #Knicks made inquiry but have better chance of landing 7-1 Russian in summer as restricted FA

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Marc Berman ‏@NYPost_Berman
Remember Mozgov? #Knicks made inquiry but have better chance of landing 7-1 Russian in summer as restricted FA

Next they will be calling Houston.

NYKBocker wrote:

3G4G wrote:So the Wolves offer Roy and 1rst for Mozgov and the Nuggets say no...someone pour me a shot of swine flu mixed with anthrax....

Minny trying to be sly and unload Roy's contract. Small market team like the Nuggets can't afford to pay off that contract. Roy is done.

Roy only has 1 yr left on his deal and Denver probably could receive a disabled player exception should he not play again....

The trade would keep the Nuggets under the Tax this year still and potentially next yr depending on what kind of deal Iggy signs if re-signed and what other moves they make. There isn't much difference between $67mil and $70mil you realize this right?

This has everything to do with Massai once again knowing what it takes to be a good GM and establish value and/or acquire value from other teams when doing trades.

Karl also wants as many big bodies as possible in the event they have to play OKC/Spurs in the playoffs. The point you miss Mozgov has now been officially valued for a 1st rounder and hasn't done much in Denver. Meanwhile we simply through him in the Melo deal.

yellowboy90 wrote:

3G4G wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:

3G4G wrote:So the Wolves offer Roy and 1rst for Mozgov and the Nuggets say no...someone pour me a shot of swine flu mixed with anthrax....

Minny trying to be sly and unload Roy's contract. Small market team like the Nuggets can't afford to pay off that contract. Roy is done.

Roy only has 1 yr left on his deal and Denver probably could receive a disabled player exception should he not play again....

The trade would keep the Nuggets under the Tax this year still and potentially next yr depending on what kind of deal Iggy signs if re-signed and what other moves they make. There isn't much difference between $67mil and $70mil you realize this right?

This has everything to do with Massai once again knowing what it takes to be a good GM and establish value and/or acquire value from other teams when doing trades.

Karl also wants as many big bodies as possible in the event they have to play OKC/Spurs in the playoffs. The point you miss Mozgov has now been officially valued for a 1st rounder and hasn't done much in Denver. Meanwhile we simply through him in the Melo deal.

so its great to keep a big man that you are not going to lose and get nothing for him when they release him in the offseason? That is ridiculous and laughable someone would believe that.

I think they should trade 1 of Mozgov or Koufos, point is they've established value for 1 of them as of now for sure. You can still work a S&T in the summer if necessary.

Same logic with hanging on to Shump who will never see his full potential here and could leave with nothing to show to grow elsewhere. We've established value for Shump too point is he came in a decent 1rst and that's about where his value is now, the difference for us we're in "WIN NOW MODE".

yellowboy90 wrote:

3G4G wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

3G4G wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:

3G4G wrote:So the Wolves offer Roy and 1rst for Mozgov and the Nuggets say no...someone pour me a shot of swine flu mixed with anthrax....

Minny trying to be sly and unload Roy's contract. Small market team like the Nuggets can't afford to pay off that contract. Roy is done.

Roy only has 1 yr left on his deal and Denver probably could receive a disabled player exception should he not play again....

The trade would keep the Nuggets under the Tax this year still and potentially next yr depending on what kind of deal Iggy signs if re-signed and what other moves they make. There isn't much difference between $67mil and $70mil you realize this right?

This has everything to do with Massai once again knowing what it takes to be a good GM and establish value and/or acquire value from other teams when doing trades.

Karl also wants as many big bodies as possible in the event they have to play OKC/Spurs in the playoffs. The point you miss Mozgov has now been officially valued for a 1st rounder and hasn't done much in Denver. Meanwhile we simply through him in the Melo deal.

so its great to keep a big man that you are not going to lose and get nothing for him when they release him in the offseason? That is ridiculous and laughable someone would believe that.

I think they should trade 1 of Mozgov or Koufos, point is they've established value for 1 of them as of now for sure. You can still work a S&T in the summer if necessary.

Same logic with hanging on to Shump who will never see his full potential here and could leave with nothing to show to grow elsewhere. We've established value for Shump too point is he came in a decent 1rst and that's about where his value is now, the difference for us we're in "WIN NOW MODE".

Shump is not a FA and "full potential" stuff is fluff. You don't know what he will reach here. You don't even know what kind of player he is. His chance to reach his potential is as good here as it will be at other places.

Not as currently constructed and how the coach manages the team. Let's say we all truly feel his potential is 17/4/3 he's not reaching that on this team but could elsewhere most certainly given a real chance a al Earl Clark style.

But to get back on point about Denver and Massai...

AND HERE WE GO!!!!!

Chris Tomasson ‏@christomasson

Sources say Nuggets turned down a trade offer earlier this season of Danilo Gallinari for Rudy Gay. Gallinari making them look smart tonite

Knicks former assets stay increasing/maintaining high value

3G4G wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

3G4G wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:

3G4G wrote:So the Wolves offer Roy and 1rst for Mozgov and the Nuggets say no...someone pour me a shot of swine flu mixed with anthrax....

Minny trying to be sly and unload Roy's contract. Small market team like the Nuggets can't afford to pay off that contract. Roy is done.

Roy only has 1 yr left on his deal and Denver probably could receive a disabled player exception should he not play again....

The trade would keep the Nuggets under the Tax this year still and potentially next yr depending on what kind of deal Iggy signs if re-signed and what other moves they make. There isn't much difference between $67mil and $70mil you realize this right?

This has everything to do with Massai once again knowing what it takes to be a good GM and establish value and/or acquire value from other teams when doing trades.

Karl also wants as many big bodies as possible in the event they have to play OKC/Spurs in the playoffs. The point you miss Mozgov has now been officially valued for a 1st rounder and hasn't done much in Denver. Meanwhile we simply through him in the Melo deal.

so its great to keep a big man that you are not going to lose and get nothing for him when they release him in the offseason? That is ridiculous and laughable someone would believe that.

I think they should trade 1 of Mozgov or Koufos, point is they've established value for 1 of them as of now for sure. You can still work a S&T in the summer if necessary.

Same logic with hanging on to Shump who will never see his full potential here and could leave with nothing to show to grow elsewhere. We've established value for Shump too point is he came in a decent 1rst and that's about where his value is now, the difference for us we're in "WIN NOW MODE".

you uinderstand that its a salary dump for minny and that is why the first rounder is included.

yellowboy90 wrote:

3G4G wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

3G4G wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:

3G4G wrote:So the Wolves offer Roy and 1rst for Mozgov and the Nuggets say no...someone pour me a shot of swine flu mixed with anthrax....

Minny trying to be sly and unload Roy's contract. Small market team like the Nuggets can't afford to pay off that contract. Roy is done.

Roy only has 1 yr left on his deal and Denver probably could receive a disabled player exception should he not play again....

The trade would keep the Nuggets under the Tax this year still and potentially next yr depending on what kind of deal Iggy signs if re-signed and what other moves they make. There isn't much difference between $67mil and $70mil you realize this right?

This has everything to do with Massai once again knowing what it takes to be a good GM and establish value and/or acquire value from other teams when doing trades.

Karl also wants as many big bodies as possible in the event they have to play OKC/Spurs in the playoffs. The point you miss Mozgov has now been officially valued for a 1st rounder and hasn't done much in Denver. Meanwhile we simply through him in the Melo deal.

so its great to keep a big man that you are not going to lose and get nothing for him when they release him in the offseason? That is ridiculous and laughable someone would believe that.

I think they should trade 1 of Mozgov or Koufos, point is they've established value for 1 of them as of now for sure. You can still work a S&T in the summer if necessary.

Same logic with hanging on to Shump who will never see his full potential here and could leave with nothing to show to grow elsewhere. We've established value for Shump too point is he came in a decent 1rst and that's about where his value is now, the difference for us we're in "WIN NOW MODE".

Shump is not a FA and "full potential" stuff is fluff. You don't know what he will reach here. You don't even know what kind of player he is. His chance to reach his potential is as good here as it will be at other places.

And how did you come to that conclusion?

3G4G wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

3G4G wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

3G4G wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:

3G4G wrote:So the Wolves offer Roy and 1rst for Mozgov and the Nuggets say no...someone pour me a shot of swine flu mixed with anthrax....

Minny trying to be sly and unload Roy's contract. Small market team like the Nuggets can't afford to pay off that contract. Roy is done.

Roy only has 1 yr left on his deal and Denver probably could receive a disabled player exception should he not play again....

The trade would keep the Nuggets under the Tax this year still and potentially next yr depending on what kind of deal Iggy signs if re-signed and what other moves they make. There isn't much difference between $67mil and $70mil you realize this right?

This has everything to do with Massai once again knowing what it takes to be a good GM and establish value and/or acquire value from other teams when doing trades.

Karl also wants as many big bodies as possible in the event they have to play OKC/Spurs in the playoffs. The point you miss Mozgov has now been officially valued for a 1st rounder and hasn't done much in Denver. Meanwhile we simply through him in the Melo deal.

so its great to keep a big man that you are not going to lose and get nothing for him when they release him in the offseason? That is ridiculous and laughable someone would believe that.

I think they should trade 1 of Mozgov or Koufos, point is they've established value for 1 of them as of now for sure. You can still work a S&T in the summer if necessary.

Same logic with hanging on to Shump who will never see his full potential here and could leave with nothing to show to grow elsewhere. We've established value for Shump too point is he came in a decent 1rst and that's about where his value is now, the difference for us we're in "WIN NOW MODE".

Shump is not a FA and "full potential" stuff is fluff. You don't know what he will reach here. You don't even know what kind of player he is. His chance to reach his potential is as good here as it will be at other places.

Not as currently constructed and how the coach manages the team. Let's say we all truly feel his potential is 17/4/3 he's not reaching that on this team but could elsewhere most certainly given a real chance a al Earl Clark style.

But to get back on point about Denver and Massai...

AND HERE WE GO!!!!!

Chris Tomasson ‏@christomasson

Sources say Nuggets turned down a trade offer earlier this season of Danilo Gallinari for Rudy Gay. Gallinari making them look smart tonite

Knicks former assets stay increasing/maintaining high value

haha, great, now gallo's value is rudy gay.... Super... it keeps getting better and better bro...lol

gunsnewing wrote:Shump for Fab? No thanks

Fab Melo couldn't handle living in NYC