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2/19/2013  11:18 AM    LAST EDITED: 2/19/2013  11:18 AM
3G4G wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:Knicks offense is heavily dependant on Melo. Having another shooter will only help.

I love the idea of adding more offense to the offense...Redick better get behind our Blackholes in Melo/Earl/Amar'e

You do realize Melo has no problem passing to guys who can make shots. A contested shot from Melo is more likely to go in than an open shot from our other players except Novak.

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2/19/2013  11:19 AM
Rumor is crazy ny has NO PG trustworthy

Thus can't win title this yr without a PG & DON'T TELL ME FELTON

Thus no trade of shump we don't need to have conversation bout Iman going anywhere

If Woodson is smart move Iman back to bench & Let Kidd shoot his load at PG With limit to minutes
Bring Iman off bench & increase min. As SG

Let Paublo.& Jkidd back up PG Felton ..until Raymond is outta here

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2/19/2013  11:19 AM
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y2zipper wrote:I'd make the deal if I could get Jameer Nelson to spell Felton and Redick. JJ is a consistent scoring option, something the Knicks need now and Nelson could fortify the backup PG spot. Shumpert for Redick is short-sighted.

Knicks are also being conscious of the salary cap. Reddick is 29. I doubt he gets an outrageous deal. Probably 5-7 million per for 4 years.

Could be, although they're so far over that it's indifferent. I'm not sure what Redick would cost,

My point is that I like Shump and think he has a future, but he's not untouchable. If I can get a young PG, young defensive big or something reliable in addition to one of those, like the Nelson/Redick deal, I do it.
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2/19/2013  11:23 AM
DJMUSIC wrote:Rumor is crazy ny has NO PG trustworthy

Thus can't win title this yr without a PG & DON'T TELL ME FELTON

Thus no trade of shump we don't need to have conversation bout Iman going anywhere

If Woodson is smart move Iman back to bench & Let Kidd shoot his load at PG With limit to minutes
Bring Iman off bench & increase min. As SG

Let Paublo.& Jkidd back up PG Felton ..until Raymond is outta here

Kidd cannot guard the opposing PG. Kidd's body cant take the beating of running the offense.

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2/19/2013  11:24 AM
y2zipper wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:
y2zipper wrote:I'd make the deal if I could get Jameer Nelson to spell Felton and Redick. JJ is a consistent scoring option, something the Knicks need now and Nelson could fortify the backup PG spot. Shumpert for Redick is short-sighted.

Knicks are also being conscious of the salary cap. Reddick is 29. I doubt he gets an outrageous deal. Probably 5-7 million per for 4 years.

Could be, although they're so far over that it's indifferent. I'm not sure what Redick would cost,

My point is that I like Shump and think he has a future, but he's not untouchable. If I can get a young PG, young defensive big or something reliable in addition to one of those, like the Nelson/Redick deal, I do it.

Crazy.. if your deal goes down it also be BIGGEST MISTAKE of knicks history
With often injured Nelson & Reddick

These guys on Magic can be 2 good players on a good team , ain't ever be stars

Shump can be a star 1 day soon.. 2way player /young

Why? Why would any real fan want to deal that? Cause of acl ? Which needs time

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2/19/2013  11:26 AM
You are not beating wade and lebron with reddick, kidd and JR defending them in the playoffs. Miami is going to toy with us again
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2/19/2013  11:29 AM
AnubisADL wrote:
DJMUSIC wrote:Rumor is crazy ny has NO PG trustworthy

Thus can't win title this yr without a PG & DON'T TELL ME FELTON

Thus no trade of shump we don't need to have conversation bout Iman going anywhere

If Woodson is smart move Iman back to bench & Let Kidd shoot his load at PG With limit to minutes
Bring Iman off bench & increase min. As SG

Let Paublo.& Jkidd back up PG Felton ..until Raymond is outta here

Kidd cannot guard the opposing PG. Kidd's body cant take the beating of running the offense.

THE KNICKERBOCKERS AIN'T winning no nba title this yr without a legit proven #2 to Melo
So U Do not TRADE SHUMP.

We ain't fixing a crucial PG crisis by now & April 2013 so it doesn't matter on JKIDD PG,
Felton will play minutes major 1st & 4th QTR

When knicks can they Must get PG this summer
But face facts you AIN'T winning nba title without a legit #2 star OR/AND a legit PG running the show
& competing

We have neither so what's your point?

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2/19/2013  11:29 AM
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3G4G wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:Knicks offense is heavily dependant on Melo. Having another shooter will only help.

I love the idea of adding more offense to the offense...Redick better get behind our Blackholes in Melo/Earl/Amar'e

You do realize Melo has no problem passing to guys who can make shots. A contested shot from Melo is more likely to go in than an open shot from our other players except Novak.

Yeah because we all know he passes the rock at an alarming rate and less than 90% of them are suicide passes.
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2/19/2013  11:30 AM
gunsnewing wrote:You are not beating wade and lebron with reddick, kidd and JR defending them in the playoffs. Miami is going to toy with us again

You cant predict what happens in the playoffs. Guys get injured. Guys get hot. Guys choke.

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2/19/2013  11:40 AM
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yellowboy90 wrote:People are really going to flip when Minny surprises everyone and grants Love his wishes and trade with Ny for Amar'e, Novak, and Brewer, and picks. While Ny gets Love, AK, and Roy.


Now this is what I'm talking about ^ Bring it on Grunwald lets control the pain and perimitter.

From what I hear, he's turned into a good defender. From watching him against the Knicks I noticed how hard he worked on that end but didn't know if that was consistent or just the MSG effect.

I think it was the MSG EFFECT and how we make guys look better than what they would be for us on a regular basis.

I just checked Reddick PTS PER GAME against playoff type teams and he doesn't play as well. I'LL PASS

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2/19/2013  11:44 AM
AnubisADL wrote:Knicks offense is heavily dependant on Melo. Having another shooter will only help.

Only because we won't move the ball and make opposing defenses get tired & run around a bit.

Letting Melo score and shut down everybody else is the easiest way to win in the playoffs

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2/19/2013  11:45 AM
playa2 wrote:
MSG3 wrote:
playa2 wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:People are really going to flip when Minny surprises everyone and grants Love his wishes and trade with Ny for Amar'e, Novak, and Brewer, and picks. While Ny gets Love, AK, and Roy.


Now this is what I'm talking about ^ Bring it on Grunwald lets control the pain and perimitter.

From what I hear, he's turned into a good defender. From watching him against the Knicks I noticed how hard he worked on that end but didn't know if that was consistent or just the MSG effect.

I think it was the MSG EFFECT and how we make guys look better than what they would be for us on a regular basis.

I just checked Reddick PTS PER GAME against playoff type teams and he doesn't play as well. I'LL PASS

That would be both hilarious and depressing if Reddick gets here and we find out he is a shorter Novak who doesn't show up against real defenses like Miami, Chicago and Indy
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2/19/2013  11:46 AM
Our offense was fine and that was without Amare. Obviously the new starting 5 is broken and needs to be fixed. Start Amare and Shump at SG. When is Rasheed back?
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2/19/2013  11:47 AM
playa2 wrote:
MSG3 wrote:
playa2 wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:People are really going to flip when Minny surprises everyone and grants Love his wishes and trade with Ny for Amar'e, Novak, and Brewer, and picks. While Ny gets Love, AK, and Roy.


Now this is what I'm talking about ^ Bring it on Grunwald lets control the pain and perimitter.

From what I hear, he's turned into a good defender. From watching him against the Knicks I noticed how hard he worked on that end but didn't know if that was consistent or just the MSG effect.

I'LL PASS


The key is to get Melo/Earl/Amar'e too
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2/19/2013  11:50 AM
Would also be intrigued to see how long it takes Reddick to understand Woodson's switching defense if ever. At least the Knicks will continue to entertain us and make us laugh
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2/19/2013  12:06 PM
DJMUSIC wrote:Rumor is crazy ny has NO PG trustworthy

Thus can't win title this yr without a PG & DON'T TELL ME FELTON

Thus no trade of shump we don't need to have conversation bout Iman going anywhere

If Woodson is smart move Iman back to bench & Let Kidd shoot his load at PG With limit to minutes
Bring Iman off bench & increase min. As SG

Let Paublo.& Jkidd back up PG Felton ..until Raymond is outta here

to be honest Woodson said Shump was starting to give Kidd a couple of days off. Don't expect to see him starting much unless the matchup is just way too much for Kidd. I'm not sold on Shumps health. Also, I read someone saying he had trimmed down. To me, he looks heavy, especially in the lower body.

the fact that you can't even have an unrelated thread without some tool here bringing him up make me think that rational minds are few and far between. Bunch of emotionally weak, angst riddled people. I mean, how many times can you argue the same shyt
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2/19/2013  12:08 PM
JR and Novak for Reddick. Final offer.

Orlando probably rather have JR than Shumpert anyway. Otherwise they can trade with a team that actually has something to offer
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2/19/2013  12:10 PM
It is common knowledge that Shump won't be 100% until at least the playoffs or next year. Woodson said Kidd was going to come off the bench. Sheed being out forces him to start Kidd and play Shumpert out of position
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2/19/2013  12:11 PM
playa2 wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:People are really going to flip when Minny surprises everyone and grants Love his wishes and trade with Ny for Amar'e, Novak, and Brewer, and picks. While Ny gets Love, AK, and Roy.


Now this is what I'm talking about ^ Bring it on Grunwald lets control the pain and perimitter.

Don't know how much value our picks have. Didn't we trade them all to Denver?

Imagine if Minny would take some package that doesn't include Stat? Love starts, Amare off the bench. That's slightly scary to think about. And yes, uncontractable or salary CAP-able are CBA-able. Shump, Novak, Brewer, Copeland, picks and cash? "The Trade, part 2"?

Oh the horror.

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2/19/2013  12:13 PM
The Knicks are not stuopid enough to trade Shump for a rental of Redick.
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