Anji wrote:Amare is a nightmare on the boards, Kurt thomas would be a better starter.

All Amare does is take away Tyson Chandlers picks, the Knicks don't need that. They need spacing and rebounds.

That's where you are wrong. He can space the floor, cut, and be a secondary finisher. Those passes that Brewer got by the basket that he dribbled out or passed out Amar'e can finish. we all know what Amar'e faults are but he is the best option.

If only Sheed and Camby were back, they would slot in nicely.
If only we hand that true 4/5 player that could play 30 minutes, play some defense, rebound, hit an open jump shot and be the bridge between the starting front court to the backups.

100 million dollars should be able to buy that.

Anji wrote:Felton, Iman, Melo, Chandler is a good starting 4.
Pablo, Kidd, Jr, Amare is a good backup 4.

If only Sheed and Camby were back, they would slot in nicely.
If only we hand that true 4/5 player that could play 30 minutes, play some defense, rebound, hit an open jump shot and be the bridge between the starting front court to the backups.

100 million dollars should be able to buy that.

Amare as backup 5 is killing the team defensively. By not starting Amare Knicks keep coming out flat offensively and always playing catch up. Then you bring in Amare at the 5 to give Tyson a breather and the game gets away. Amare/Melo frontcourt is about as bad as it gets defensively

gunsnewing wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

Anji wrote:Amare is a nightmare on the boards, Kurt thomas would be a better starter.

All Amare does is take away Tyson Chandlers picks, the Knicks don't need that. They need spacing and rebounds.

That's where you are wrong. He can space the floor, cut, and be a secondary finisher. Those passes that Brewer got by the basket that he dribbled out or passed out Amar'e can finish. we all know what Amar'e faults are but he is the best option.

Well said

agree

if Amar'e does what he does best the Knicks nine times out of 10 will have such an advantage in the head-to-head matchup at PF. if anything, Tyson will get more high quality PnR chances for Tyson. You can't shut down both Chandler and Amar'e without giving guys like Kidd, Novak, and Melo the opportunity to sharpshoot from outside.

gunsnewing wrote:

Anji wrote:Felton, Iman, Melo, Chandler is a good starting 4.
Pablo, Kidd, Jr, Amare is a good backup 4.

If only Sheed and Camby were back, they would slot in nicely.
If only we hand that true 4/5 player that could play 30 minutes, play some defense, rebound, hit an open jump shot and be the bridge between the starting front court to the backups.

100 million dollars should be able to buy that.

Amare as backup 5 is killing the team defensively. By not starting Amare Knicks keep coming out flat offensively and always playing catch up. Then you bring in Amare at the 5 to give Tyson a breather and the game gets away. Amare/Melo frontcourt is about as bad as it gets defensively

Amar'e essentially is allowed to get himself going by coming off the bench... his approach would have to be a little different starting. He's got to move into the starting lineup at some point but I'd prefer to wait for medical clearance/endorsement before playing he gets starter's minutes.

Amare is a great cutter, good finisher. Can still run although his explosiveness is limited. We've seen him hit some mid range jumpers and somr threes. Meanwhile, he is a mediocre rebounder at the power spots, has no real post game, and is a finesse player as opposed to a real grinder underneath.

That description got me thinking. Why not give Amare time at the 3? I know it sounds crazy but the guy always depended on speed and athleticism at the 4 or 5. Why not put him in a spot that is less physical (Melo is infinately more of a grinder down low than Amare). That spot seems to fit him.

Idk...just a thought.

Amare?

I'm just tired of seeing Melo at 4 with Copeland at the 3. Just awful defensively and on the boards. Starting Amare with Melo at the 3 will at least improve our rebounding and make it easier for Melo, Felton and Shumpert offensively.

Rather see that than 1 on 5 with Melo. Get off to some good starts instead of trailing every game. Amare's minutes restriction has been lifted but you can still be cautious with his minutes like they are with Shumpert eventhough he is starting. Amare is moving around a lot better than he was last year with the bad back.

Start him now. If it doesn't work at least you know. Then Camby or Rasheed can start once they are back. I think it will work and make the Knicks more dangerous in the playoffs instead of being run out of the gym by Miami in the 1st quarter of game 1. Knicks have no chance unless Melo and Amare are both playing well together. Melo 1 on 5 is not going to cut it in the playoffs. We've already seen that

Woodson has already said Amare might start eventually. Amare looks fine. He will never defend but he looks better than he did last year with the bad back.

3G4G wrote:

nyk4ever wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Marc Berman ‏@NYPost_Berman
Woodson changing lineup. No Copeland. Perhaps Melo at 3 and Kurt at 4. Woody would not say.

Amare?

what is amar'e starting going to do for us now? it's really all about whose finishing the games and amar'e is such a defensive liability that woody doesn't even have him in there at the end. amar'e needs to get his legs under him and see if he can start "learning how to play d" before he can finish games, let alone start.

Not sure why some fans who like certain players want what they feel is best for the player, but is not necessarily best for the team nor the player. How does starting Amar'e help Amar'e or the team in a lineup with Felton/Melo/Kidd or Shump/Chandler?

It doesn't! You either have to take Tyson or Melo out of that lineup to maximize Amar'e's strengths. Would that help the team? Probably not. He's not even 100% still so I don't get this big fix to rush him into things.

It simply baffles me. I didn't say anything yesterday but...

Much the same of fans saying hey I hope Dwight goes to Brooklyn because he'll derail their team considering what he's doing to L.A. but then we turn around and say hey let's get old arse Jermaine O'Neal while he's trying to put his hands on an exec in Phx so he can help our team.....

Scooby-Doo....RUUUUUUHHHHHNNNNN!!!

Yea,ok so we will take Tyson or Melo outta the starting lineup(green font) SMFH