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Amar'e...."I've Never Been Taught Defense My Whole Career"
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1/3/2013  2:37 PM

Things like this make me think it comes down to a lack of effort. I refuse to believe Amare is so clueless about defense that he thought the correct play at that point was to have Lin get back to Parker.

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1/3/2013  2:39 PM
lol that clip right there is Amare in a nutshell. Has to be the worst display of defense ever. And people say he is a better defender than David Lee
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1/3/2013  2:41 PM
TeamBall wrote:

Things like this make me think it comes down to a lack of effort. I refuse to believe Amare is so clueless about defense that he thought the correct play at that point was to have Lin get back to Parker.

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1/3/2013  2:43 PM
Notice the pick Duncan sets. Tyson and Amare can learn from him
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1/3/2013  2:43 PM
TeamBall wrote:

Things like this make me think it comes down to a lack of effort. I refuse to believe Amare is so clueless about defense that he thought the correct play at that point was to have Lin get back to Parker.

He certainly needs to give more consistent effort. I can also find clips like that for most players in the NBA. Also, if you take a look at the clip you'd see that Melo nor Landry nor Novak make any real effort. That speaks to coaching and team defense as a whole. It's funny how you can watch that and somehow only find fault with Amar'e. The only one trying in that clip is Lin.

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1/3/2013  2:44 PM
and i wonder what Melo was thinking on that play surely couldn't be happy
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1/3/2013  2:46 PM
NUPE wrote:
TeamBall wrote:

Things like this make me think it comes down to a lack of effort. I refuse to believe Amare is so clueless about defense that he thought the correct play at that point was to have Lin get back to Parker.

He certainly needs to give more consistent effort. I can also find clips like that for most players in the NBA. Also, if you take a look at the clip you'd see that Melo nor Landry nor Novak make any real effort. That speaks to coaching and team defense as a whole. It's funny how you can watch that and somehow only find fault with Amar'e. The only one trying in that clip is Lin.

Not true everyone is in the correct spot. Amare doesn't understand help defense

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1/3/2013  2:48 PM
NUPE wrote:
TeamBall wrote:

Things like this make me think it comes down to a lack of effort. I refuse to believe Amare is so clueless about defense that he thought the correct play at that point was to have Lin get back to Parker.

He certainly needs to give more consistent effort. I can also find clips like that for most players in the NBA. Also, if you take a look at the clip you'd see that Melo nor Landry nor Novak make any real effort. That speaks to coaching and team defense as a whole. It's funny how you can watch that and somehow only find fault with Amar'e. The only one trying in that clip is Lin.

Really? Everyone else assumes Amare is gonna switch and pickup Parker. As soon as Amare stops moving and points to him, Fields and Melo move toward Parker and Novak rotates to Melos man in case of a kick out. Amare is completely at fault here.

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1/3/2013  2:48 PM
You would think Amare would also call out the pick.
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1/3/2013  2:49 PM
You know watching that clip AMar'e would be best just blitzing the pg on the pnr and over hedge like Novak does
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1/3/2013  2:50 PM
That right there is our $100mil franchise savior. While David Lee tears it up in Golden St as an allstar and one of the best players in the nba
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1/3/2013  2:55 PM
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nixluva wrote:I repeat:

2002-03 camp was with Frank Johnson
2003-04 camp was with Frank Johnson
2004-05 camp was with D'Antoni's with Marc Ivaroni defensive assistant
2005-06 Amar'e had his surgery and missed most of the season
2006-07 camp was with MDA and Dan D'Antoni
2007-08 camp was with MDA and Dan
2008-09 camp was with Terry Porter
2009-10 camp was with Alvin Gentry
2010-11 camp was with MDA and Dan
2011-12 camp was with MDA and Woody
2012-13 camp was with Woody

There is no way in HELL that Amar'e was NEVER tought defense. Not even as a rookie? Never after coaches noticed him missing defensive assignments practice after practice and game after game? Not even after Terry Porter was brought in to FOCUS on defense? Not even after Gentry supposedly helped get him to focus on D and he was praised for it? Not even after MDA had fights with him about not defending, which led to them having to have a sitdown to smooth things out when he came to New York? Not even when Woody was brought in to help and was running the defensive drills in practice last year and surely went over things this year? How about those sessions with Hakeem which featured defensive training? B.S.

People just want to kick dirt on MDA and this is one of the ways they get to do it again. Steven A Smith was fully believing MDA was the reason on the radio today. It's just purely ridiculous to think all of those coaches and he never once had someone go over defense with him at all, despite him CLEARLY being awful at defense! If you and I can see how bad STAT has been on D, there's no way a coach wouldn't see it and also talk to him about it.

Also MDA's defense is pretty much exactly the same as Woody's at the base level. The only difference was the fact that Woody said he liked to trap more. Overall tho last year MDA stated clearly before camp that they would be using his defense and even when Woody took over the schemes were the same only the EFFORT level changed. It's ridiculous to think that MDA could win 62 games and have NO defensive scheme. That's impossible. If he really ignored D, those teams would've been at the bottom of the league on D and not middle of the league as they were. My contention is that if Amar'e was actually a good defensive anchor then those teams would've been much better defensively as they were last year under MDA with Tyson and Jared in there.

Amare is a damn Liar!


What you guys don't realize is that MDA told all of those assistant coaches and actually every human Amare ever came into contact with not to work on defense with him.
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1/3/2013  2:57 PM
gunsnewing wrote:Notice the pick Duncan sets. Tyson and Amare can learn from him

Tyson used to set pretty good screens. Even earlier in the season when him and Melo did that screen where they linked arms. Then, out of nowhere, he started either slipping the screen or setting is backwards with his ass for some reason.

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1/3/2013  3:00 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAT91hO4-zs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etcW_7f744Y

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cp55Ux_3Vk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTibuGP4l5Q

You can't teach what Amare does. He's just lost at all times. These clips aren't even signling him out. He just never knows where his man is, how to switch or how to box out. I don't care what schooling you have had. Watching film and knowing player tendencies isn't that tough. Especially when they have someone put together books on players. It's a lack of effort and desire.

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1/3/2013  3:00 PM
I think having been a dominant offense big Amare has no respect or understanding for what an nba point guard could do offensively. What was Amare thinking? Let me stay on Duncan because Parker is still going to dish it to him. Maybe playing all those years with Nash screwed with his head
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1/3/2013  3:05 PM
MS wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAT91hO4-zs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etcW_7f744Y

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cp55Ux_3Vk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTibuGP4l5Q

You can't teach what Amare does. He's just lost at all times. These clips aren't even signling him out. He just never knows where his man is, how to switch or how to box out. I don't care what schooling you have had. Watching film and knowing player tendencies isn't that tough. Especially when they have someone put together books on players. It's a lack of effort and desire.

Ehh i dont know if i'd fault him too much for the 2nd and 4th clips. That second seems like a lack of communication between him and Tyson and that last one seems like a usual "big man getting burned by a guard" play.

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1/3/2013  3:06 PM
gunsnewing wrote:I think having been a dominant offense big Amare has no respect or understanding for what an nba point guard could do offensively. What was Amare thinking? Let me stay on Duncan because Parker is still going to dish it to him. Maybe playing all those years with Nash screwed with his head

At least in this game, I think he was just being extremely lazy

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1/3/2013  3:09 PM
Poor Lin. It's got to be extremely frustrating on Melo, Tyson and Woodson to play with a guy like that damn
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1/3/2013  3:10 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/3/2013  6:38 PM
Notice Amare gives 110% every time on offense forcing shots
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1/3/2013  3:14 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/3/2013  3:14 PM
For someone so gifted athletically on the offensive end, it truly boggles the mind that he can't move his feet laterally.

It's not that hard Amare! Side to side. Pretend you're doing the cha cha slide at Melo's wedding reception.

Amar'e...."I've Never Been Taught Defense My Whole Career"

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