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blkexec
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12/10/2012  2:36 PM
blkexec wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:As long as Kidd stays healthy, we are fine with him at SG.

Actually, for the money and availability.....Kidd might be the best option at SG. You can pair him up with almost any guard, and we are fine. Since Kidd can play the 1 or 2, you can mis-match your entire lineup, based on the opposition.

I'm wondering what Kidd and Shump will look like.

Now that I think about it....our championship hopes rides on Kidds shoulders! The good thing is that he can and wants to handle that type of pressure. It's a perfect match. Kidds health will be extremely important. The good news is that he doesn't have to play major minutes during the regular season!

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12/10/2012  4:43 PM
The thing with JR and Felton is that they are both pretty bad shooters % wise(alot due to shot selection). Melo and Tyson help in this regard. Iman Shumpert hasn't proven himself in this regard either. So if Amare can come back and not screw everything up, it could be a big boon for this team.
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12/10/2012  4:45 PM
jr's biggest problem is the off balanced shots. if he would just set and shoot he would be more accurate
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12/10/2012  4:54 PM
IrishKnickFan wrote:jr's biggest problem is the off balanced shots. if he would just set and shoot he would be more accurate

If he had better shot selection, he could be just one notch below an all-star rather than just a serviceable bench player.
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12/10/2012  5:21 PM
blkexec wrote:This team has flaws...just like every NBA team. Our main flaw is not SG, old age, etc....It's dumb azz Knick fans that always find something to complain about. Top team in the East, undefeated at home. Best team any Knick fan has ever seen or heard since the 70's. The thing this thread is good for, is to invite other fans to spread their negative cancer.

Regardless of this team blowing out Miami twice by 20, winning tough games while shooting under 40%....we continue to create negative threads like this? What do you want, Dantoni back? Unbelievable.....

I guess most people can't function throughout the day, without hating something.....

There's a long way to go before we can declare this team better than the ones in 92-93, 93-94, 96-97, or 99.

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12/10/2012  6:03 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
blkexec wrote:This team has flaws...just like every NBA team. Our main flaw is not SG, old age, etc....It's dumb azz Knick fans that always find something to complain about. Top team in the East, undefeated at home. Best team any Knick fan has ever seen or heard since the 70's. The thing this thread is good for, is to invite other fans to spread their negative cancer.

Regardless of this team blowing out Miami twice by 20, winning tough games while shooting under 40%....we continue to create negative threads like this? What do you want, Dantoni back? Unbelievable.....

I guess most people can't function throughout the day, without hating something.....

Why is having flaw negative? Our SG position is fair but could certainly be looked at as a weak spot of a good team. Instead of having Ray Felton and JR Smith shoot too much--why not try out James White at SG for 10-15 minutes to break things up? When we played Chicago who was our best + and - player? James White. We have been able to get by with low TO's but at some point if we let these guys continue to shoot 9-30 it will bite us. My take is break the minutes up and add White play JR less and demand a little more efficiency from him. Felton is also carrying too much load with FGA's.

Agreed but James White isn't the answer. Amare is. Felton becomes the 4-th option on offense. We don't necessarily need offense from Brewer/Shump. Amare returning also limits JR's shots which is good as long as he's coming off the bench

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12/10/2012  6:06 PM
MSG3 wrote:JR Smith is the biggest flaw on this team. I really hope he plays no more than 15 mpg when Shump gets back. I also really hope we find someone dumb enough to take him in a trade.

I would not bring him back next year because he will demand a bigger contract. Rather have a guy like Marco Belinelli who we can count on to shoot and space the floor for Amare and Melo

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12/10/2012  6:10 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/10/2012  6:11 PM
Kidd will backup Felton. Gotta keep him fresh and pray Felton makes plays for Melo and Amare.

Unless you want to start Kidd and pull him along with Amare at the 6min mark. Keep both guys fresh

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12/10/2012  6:12 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
IrishKnickFan wrote:jr's biggest problem is the off balanced shots. if he would just set and shoot he would be more accurate

If he had better shot selection, he could be just one notch below an all-star rather than just a serviceable bench player.

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12/10/2012  6:32 PM
JR Smith, armed with Bill Bradley's "sense of where he is on the court", is Kobe Bryant

Bonn1997 wrote:If he had better shot selection, he could be just one notch below an all-star rather than just a serviceable bench player.

The step back jumper against Charlotte was a thing of beauty.

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12/10/2012  7:45 PM
JR's problem is that he is asked to create on the second unit instead of running him off screens. Now he is in a shooting slump so when they have ran him off screens it has not worked that often.
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12/10/2012  7:49 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:JR's problem is that he is asked to create on the second unit instead of running him off screens. Now he is in a shooting slump so when they have ran him off screens it has not worked that often.

Smith is suffering because he is not accustomed to creating so he has to actually think instead of just reacting.

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12/10/2012  7:51 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:JR's problem is that he is asked to create on the second unit instead of running him off screens. Now he is in a shooting slump so when they have ran him off screens it has not worked that often.

good point. hopefully once Amare comes back we'll see Kidd with JR in the 2nd unit

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12/10/2012  8:26 PM
misterearl wrote:JR Smith, armed with Bill Bradley's "sense of where he is on the court", is Kobe Bryant

Bonn1997 wrote:If he had better shot selection, he could be just one notch below an all-star rather than just a serviceable bench player.

The step back jumper against Charlotte was a thing of beauty.

No it was not!

It was just another feast or famine JR insanity-shot.

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12/10/2012  8:33 PM
mrKnickShot wrote:
misterearl wrote:JR Smith, armed with Bill Bradley's "sense of where he is on the court", is Kobe Bryant

Bonn1997 wrote:If he had better shot selection, he could be just one notch below an all-star rather than just a serviceable bench player.

The step back jumper against Charlotte was a thing of beauty.

No it was not!

It was just another feast or famine JR insanity-shot.

Exactly; he shot 6-16 overall, including 1 of 9 from 3 pt range. If he had a decent shooting night, there wouldn't have even been a need for that final shot.

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12/10/2012  8:36 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
misterearl wrote:JR Smith, armed with Bill Bradley's "sense of where he is on the court", is Kobe Bryant

Bonn1997 wrote:If he had better shot selection, he could be just one notch below an all-star rather than just a serviceable bench player.

The step back jumper against Charlotte was a thing of beauty.

No it was not!

It was just another feast or famine JR insanity-shot.

Exactly; he shot 6-16 overall, including 1 of 9 from 3 pt range. If he had a decent shooting night, there wouldn't have even been a need for that final shot.

And lets not forget that he was about to take an even worse shot if not for the genius time out of JKidd.

Woody is a bit obsessed. Maybe he wants him to learn how to play so that he won't kill us in the playoffs.

His defense and rebounding has been solid.

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12/10/2012  8:39 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
misterearl wrote:JR Smith, armed with Bill Bradley's "sense of where he is on the court", is Kobe Bryant

Bonn1997 wrote:If he had better shot selection, he could be just one notch below an all-star rather than just a serviceable bench player.

The step back jumper against Charlotte was a thing of beauty.

No it was not!

It was just another feast or famine JR insanity-shot.

Exactly; he shot 6-16 overall, including 1 of 9 from 3 pt range. If he had a decent shooting night, there wouldn't have even been a need for that final shot.

Hell, it wasn't even a good shot. There are a lot of other plays I'd rather see to win a game at the buzzer then an off-balance, step-back jumper.

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12/10/2012  8:42 PM
Maybe Woodson wants JR to succeed so bad so he looks like the genius who got him to finally reach his potential?
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12/10/2012  8:42 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
misterearl wrote:JR Smith, armed with Bill Bradley's "sense of where he is on the court", is Kobe Bryant

Bonn1997 wrote:If he had better shot selection, he could be just one notch below an all-star rather than just a serviceable bench player.

The step back jumper against Charlotte was a thing of beauty.

No it was not!

It was just another feast or famine JR insanity-shot.

Exactly; he shot 6-16 overall, including 1 of 9 from 3 pt range. If he had a decent shooting night, there wouldn't have even been a need for that final shot.

Just showing he went 1-9 is cute but that does not tell the whole story. What kind of shots were they? Were they contested, in transition, off screen, and etc. Were they early in the shot clock or late in the shot clock? Is a shot bad because it is missed? I don't think so.

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12/10/2012  8:47 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
misterearl wrote:JR Smith, armed with Bill Bradley's "sense of where he is on the court", is Kobe Bryant

Bonn1997 wrote:If he had better shot selection, he could be just one notch below an all-star rather than just a serviceable bench player.

The step back jumper against Charlotte was a thing of beauty.

No it was not!

It was just another feast or famine JR insanity-shot.

Exactly; he shot 6-16 overall, including 1 of 9 from 3 pt range. If he had a decent shooting night, there wouldn't have even been a need for that final shot.

Just showing he went 1-9 is cute but that does not tell the whole story. What kind of shots were they? Were they contested, in transition, off screen, and etc. Were they early in the shot clock or late in the shot clock? Is a shot bad because it is missed? I don't think so.

are you really saying that he takes good shots or at least good for him?

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