giantfan216 wrote:

JrZyHuStLa wrote:We beat Miami by 20 points twice.

I see no D'antoni style basketball whatsoever.

Absolutely, totally, 1000% agree. LA can enjoy D'Antoni and his garbage excuse "Well we haven't had a whole camp together" blah blah blah...

As I said in other posts,maybe SOME of you should go to youtube and search old Knicks games. Bradley in the corner YES,DeBush in the corner YES,Clyde in the corner YES. Woody does this because it was ingrained into his head as a player for Red Holtzman. mda has nothing to do with the way we swing the ball around the permieter. Wouldnt it be funny if mda tweeked Reds offense? What we are playing right now is pass,pass ,pass HIT THE OPEN MAN,TAKE THE SHOT.

Nalod wrote:

Anji wrote:

ramtour420 wrote:Yeah, Nalod. Besides, didn't you get the memo? MDA never ran SSOL here. According to Nix, it was his half court stuff mostly. Also known as Seven seconds or mess.

LOL, he never ran it but we are running now??? Thank goodness for the ignore feature!!!

Talking 41 more shots than opponents. this is break down analysis of what we did last nite to freaking blow out the heat on a road game.

WE ran a variant of ssol last nite. When they focused on Tyson and the PNR we adapted and blew them out!

Anyone else just want to jump up and down and praise how great we are or talk basketball? MDA is part of our history and our head coach was under him a year. If Coach K is ok with adopting his offense once in a while, its ok for Woodson also!

Y'all think MDA was the sole cause of the last 4 years and those three letters should never be spoken again then your some igorant homers posing in the Mecca!

I think Woodson did take from what saw last year, I won't give MDA any credit on the application of those principles though.

It's basically like electricity with Thomas and Tesla, yeah Thomas is credited with discovering it but in application of DC was good for their era, but ac is exponentially better.

Nalod wrote:

Anji wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Anji wrote:

ramtour420 wrote:Yeah, Nalod. Besides, didn't you get the memo? MDA never ran SSOL here. According to Nix, it was his half court stuff mostly. Also known as Seven seconds or mess.

LOL, he never ran it but we are running now??? Thank goodness for the ignore feature!!!

Talking 41 more shots than opponents. this is break down analysis of what we did last nite to freaking blow out the heat on a road game.

WE ran a variant of ssol last nite. When they focused on Tyson and the PNR we adapted and blew them out!

Anyone else just want to jump up and down and praise how great we are or talk basketball? MDA is part of our history and our head coach was under him a year. If Coach K is ok with adopting his offense once in a while, its ok for Woodson also!

Y'all think MDA was the sole cause of the last 4 years and those three letters should never be spoken again then your some igorant homers posing in the Mecca!

My bad, obviously I don't have you on ignore. I could have sworn he said that other MDA poster. I do still see his post when other people quote and he is still saying, We never ran it when we lost with mda but we run it now when we win with him gone. It's hilarious!

I think Woodson did take from what saw last year, I won't give MDA any credit on the application of those principles though.

It's basically like electricity with Thomas and Tesla, yeah Thomas is credited with discovering it but in application of DC was good for their era, but ac is exponentially better.

Yeah, thats about it. To say Woodson adapted to the situatin and used a variant of somthing that works with the right personel is a reasonable statement and kindas speaks that he is NOT rigid.

I said he Was COTY even thought we have 78% of the season still ahead of us.

I guess all we have left to do is beat the Nets?

Knicks need to beat 75% of the teams at home and 50% of the teams on the Road. I'll take that, wide open threes and the great mooby posting up.

Nalod wrote:

Anji wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Anji wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Anji wrote:

ramtour420 wrote:Yeah, Nalod. Besides, didn't you get the memo? MDA never ran SSOL here. According to Nix, it was his half court stuff mostly. Also known as Seven seconds or mess.

LOL, he never ran it but we are running now??? Thank goodness for the ignore feature!!!

Talking 41 more shots than opponents. this is break down analysis of what we did last nite to freaking blow out the heat on a road game.

WE ran a variant of ssol last nite. When they focused on Tyson and the PNR we adapted and blew them out!

Anyone else just want to jump up and down and praise how great we are or talk basketball? MDA is part of our history and our head coach was under him a year. If Coach K is ok with adopting his offense once in a while, its ok for Woodson also!

Y'all think MDA was the sole cause of the last 4 years and those three letters should never be spoken again then your some igorant homers posing in the Mecca!

My bad, obviously I don't have you on ignore. I could have sworn he said that other MDA poster. I do still see his post when other people quote and he is still saying, We never ran it when we lost with mda but we run it now when we win with him gone. It's hilarious!

I think Woodson did take from what saw last year, I won't give MDA any credit on the application of those principles though.

It's basically like electricity with Thomas and Tesla, yeah Thomas is credited with discovering it but in application of DC was good for their era, but ac is exponentially better.

Yeah, thats about it. To say Woodson adapted to the situatin and used a variant of somthing that works with the right personel is a reasonable statement and kindas speaks that he is NOT rigid.

I said he Was COTY even thought we have 78% of the season still ahead of us.

I guess all we have left to do is beat the Nets?

Why you gotta bring up the NYETS!!!!!

Knicks need to beat 75% of the teams at home and 50% of the teams on the Road. I'll take that, wide open threes and the great mooby posting up.

Bring up the nets?

1. Cuz its funny
2. We have beaten SAS and Miami twice, this has to happen.
3. Cuz its whats expected from me.
4. Cuz there are a lot of games to go and we have not done anything tangible YET!
5. You guys are so tough but mention nets y'all get all in a tizz! ITs funny.

I actually like the Nyets, but I think the knicks are better. Deal with it.

metra wrote:Uh oh. Nalod do you not know how to read an NBA box score? Knicks took 91 shots, 44 of which were 3's. You added the FG column and the 3pt column (91 + 44 = 135, your number). The FG column includes the 3pt column.

Dude,
A. How long have you been posting here?
B. How many posts do you have?
C. How many times do you pose as an authority a variety of topics?
D. How the hell do you not know how to read a box score?

My math is wrong your right.

We took 91 shots vs thier 78. Still applies.

I don't know how to read a box score. Looks like nobody else caught it.

Does that invalidate my 8 years? Does it invalidate what we saw? Or the guy from CBS saw and wrote about? (I swear I did poach it, I provide links).

Thanks Metro!

metra wrote:Haha yeah man you lose a lot of credibility. Sorry bud.

Yeah, I might have lost some. But not like you say.

The concept is the same. We took more shots and almost 3 times as many 3's.

Glad you did the fact check. But the rest, oh it must be so much fun!

gunsnewing wrote:And it will continue for as long as people keep taking the bait

Guns,I wont take the bait anymore,nalod posts just topost and annoy but its not gonna happen with the Cooch anymore.

nixluva wrote:Nalod don't worry I got your back on this one.

You guys keep missing the point. WOODY HIMSELF SAID HE WAS KEEPING A LOT OF MDA'S OFFENSE!!! What the hell do you think we've been running all year. It's some of Woody's stuff and some of MDA's stuff plain and simple. Also i'll say this again for the hard of hearing, we pretty much NEVER ran SSOL here in NY. MDA tried but the team couldn't handle that pace, so he went with a slowed down version. You guys have really no sense of what SSOL was like anymore. They ran even off makes, none of our Knicks teams was that fast.

For further support of what i've been saying:

They took the game by 20 points, and in the fourth quarter it never closer than ten. This was domination. Obviously, credit the players for their hot shooting and moving the basketball. Also credit Mike Woodson for coming up with a plan that this group could execute, putting them in a position to succeed with top gun Carmelo Anthony on the bench.

Know who else deserves credit? Mike D’Antoni.

Watching the Knicks on Thursday night was akin to watching them at any time during the past three seasons: run the high screen-and-roll, spread the floor and find the open man.

Felton took Jeremy Lin’s spot in his own little version of Linsanity. When the Heat went under the pick-and-roll, there was an open jumper. When they trapped, the Knicks were one pass away from an open three or Tyson Chandler at the rim. When they switched, it became a mismatch for the Knicks guards, who took it to the hoop.

It was unstoppable. It was Mike D’Antoni’s system at its best. It was the only way the Knicks could have won last night without Carmelo Anthony.

We’ve seen Woodson employ that offense for stretches this season, but never for nearly an entire game like against Miami. After he got the job, Woodson said he would be foolish not to continue to utilize some of Mike D’Antoni’s system in his offense. There were many skeptics, mostly because of the Knicks’ plodding and ball-stopping ways late last year. Now, it’s pretty obvious that was due to a complete lack of competent point guard play after Jeremy Lin got hurt.

Woodson deserves a ton of credit for not being stubborn and adjusting his style to make the team better. Many coaches have their way and stick with it no matter what, but he did what was best for the players and the team.

The Knicks have officially come full circle. They now have the best of both worlds. For all the Knicks fans that couldn’t stand D’Antoni, they now have his offensive system and the players to run it at their disposal when needed. The Knicks lead the NBA in three-pointers — both attempted and made. Last night they shot a ridiculous 44 and made 18. They have a stable of point guards to get those open shots that D’Antoni would sell his soul for.

They also have the defensive intensity and accountability that comes with Woodson. It’s a combination the league is having a hard time dealing with, and I don’t think that’s going to change any time soon.

D’Antoni may not have won a title here with the Knicks. He couldn’t even win a playoff game. But he helped lay the foundation that will help the Knicks contend for a championship this year.

For that, at least, we can remember him fondly.

Schmeelk’s Snippets

- So this means the Knicks are better without Carmelo Anthony right? I hope no one actually is saying that this morning, but I wouldn’t put it past his detractors.

- Raymond Felton will not shoot like that from behind the arc often, but you have to love the way he attacked the paint and found the open man. He showed no fear and only had three turnovers as the primary ball handler against a hawkish Heat defense. The Knicks had just seven turnovers as a team. WOW!

- You’ve got to love the balanced scoring. The Knicks had six players in double figures and eight players with seven points or more.

- The Heat shut down Steve Novak in last year’s playoffs because the Knicks’ ball movement was terrible. Well, it wasn’t in the first two matchups this year and he is getting open looks all over the place.

- Ronnie Brewer did a good job against LeBron James. He has the size and strength to prevent LeBron from bullying him like he does so many other guards.

- LeBron James got no help from his two wingmen last night, Chris Bosh and Dwyane Wade. No-shows. Wade had the Heat’s worst +/- last night, -31. Bosh was second worst with -21. Yikes.

- Something is not right with Miami. Could they have grown complacent so quickly after just one championship? I just don’t sense an edge, especially on defense.

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Give D’Antoni some credit for this one? Let’s get your comments!

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/12/07/schmeelk-the-man-behind-knicks-huge-win-mike-dantoni/

I feel nauseous. Who wrote this steaming piece of dog doo-doo ?

I may need to give this forum another break.

Nalod wrote:
Guess you didn't even read it. It compliments Woodson.

Yes, just like you do. By creating this thread