ChuckBuck wrote:tkf wrote:3G4G wrote:ChuckBuck wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:ChuckBuck wrote:fishmike wrote:fishmike wrote:and jrzy... when I say something silly like in 9 years and 8 first round exits Melo has had PLENTY of chances also no? Why in gods name would this guy deserve to have a team built around him? How is my logic with MElo different than yours with MDA? Please do answer....
still waiting... just curious
Didn't the great Kevin Garnett get bounced out of the first round 7 years in a row before getting help?
He had terrible teams, though. Melo had two separate teammates receiving MVP consideration.
Tom Gugliotta and Stephon Marbury weren't that bad.
Later Chauncey Billups and Wally Sczyberiak. Not much different than what Melo had to go through.
Kevin Garnett only advanced when he had Sam Cassell and Latrell Sprewell join him. And KG is an all time great...go figure.
Marbury left early to New Jersey
Googs injured his knees
Death of Malik Sealy
Minnesota was stripped of 1rst rounders for 5yrs straight I believe
Not really comparable to Melo as Denver had measure of stability
not sure why people keep bringing up kobe, now Garnett.. jeez, these are not good comparisons to help an argument.. Does Garnett have a ring? Yes, was Garnett a MVP? yes, was he one of the top defensive players in the league for years.. yes.. .Ok... not sure why his name comes up... Fans feel melo never had help.. well hey, it is an old excuse, and no matter how many facts you bring up, they will just avoid the facts and bring up another player greater than him as comparison.. kind of an odd strategy to defend and argument....
one poster in this thread said this is a bottom line business... KG has a ring.. bottom line.. carmelo doesn't........ bottom line..
It's a legit comparison.
Besides awards, Kobe's career numbers and Melo's are very similiar. 25 pts/gm on 45% FG.
Career wise, KG and Melo shared the same career path. KG eliminated in 7 years straight in the 1st round, before he got help.
Pretty simple comparison.
besides MANY awards, and Many rings, their numbers are very similar... but then again they are not.. when we take kobe's best seasons and carmelo's best, it is not even close.... plus kobe's first two years in the league when he came off the bench pretty much skews his numbers a bit.. it is not as close as you think.. and another thing.. some of those awards or acknowledgments like all NBA defensive first team... those tell a story as well.. that kobe was a two way player.. carmelo wasn't...
Career wise, KG and Melo shared the same career path.
again.. not really.
it is not a legit comparison...
I would like to ask you this question and several others.. Before carmelo came to the knicks, did any of you ever think he was on the same level as kobe, lebron, KG, etc? honestly?
Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser...............
TKF