Mray20 wrote:Yes this Knick team is younger than the Blazers the reason I compared them is because of how much depth the Knicks have just like the Blazers had at every position

KnicksFE wrote:

Mray20 wrote:This team reminds me of a slighty younger version of the 2000 Portland Trailer Blazers team, the one that should have beaten the Lakers in that epic 7 game series

What? Are you serious? That Portland Trail Blazers had the following roster

Rasheed Wallace
Steve Smith
Damon Stoudamire
Bonzi Wells
Scottie Pippen
Jermaine O'Neal
Brian Grant
Shawn Kemp
Rod Strickland
Arvydas Sabonis
And very old Detlef Schrempf

Sure we are just like them, just slightly younger and more athletic. Lol

Bonn1997 wrote:

Mray20 wrote:Yes this Knick team is younger than the Blazers the reason I compared them is because of how much depth the Knicks have just like the Blazers had at every position

KnicksFE wrote:

Mray20 wrote:This team reminds me of a slighty younger version of the 2000 Portland Trailer Blazers team, the one that should have beaten the Lakers in that epic 7 game series

What? Are you serious? That Portland Trail Blazers had the following roster

Rasheed Wallace
Steve Smith
Damon Stoudamire
Bonzi Wells
Scottie Pippen
Jermaine O'Neal
Brian Grant
Shawn Kemp
Rod Strickland
Arvydas Sabonis
And very old Detlef Schrempf

Sure we are just like them, just slightly younger and more athletic. Lol

Are you sure this Knicks team is younger? I didn't think we were younger than anyone! Here are the ages of their players: http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/POR/2000.html
With the exception of Detlef, they're all between 25 and 34.

I understand that the Knicks are a deep team today, however, that Trail Blazers team was super power deep, with a bunch of former all-stars and some good young guys just reaching their prime. Wayyyyyyyyy more overall talent than our Knicks.

Knixkik wrote:How about the Dallas championship team, does this team remind of them at all?

Melo=Nowitzki (i really believe this holds true as Melo gets older and more mature.)
Chandler=Chandler (Chandler in his prime regardless)
Stoudemire=Marion (I know the comparison isn't great, but both good athletes, good inside finishers, former all-stars but still capable scorers)
Smith=Terry (scoring spark off bench and/or finishing games)
Kidd and Felton=Kidd and Barea (nice PG combo)
Novak=Peja (deadly shooter)
Shumpert/Brewer=Stevenson (lockdown defender)
Camby=Haywood (nice defensive big off bench)

I like the comparison. Hope this team can form it's identity soon!

KnicksFE wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Knixkik wrote:How about the Dallas championship team, does this team remind of them at all?

Melo=Nowitzki (i really believe this holds true as Melo gets older and more mature.)
Chandler=Chandler (Chandler in his prime regardless)
Stoudemire=Marion (I know the comparison isn't great, but both good athletes, good inside finishers, former all-stars but still capable scorers)
Smith=Terry (scoring spark off bench and/or finishing games)
Kidd and Felton=Kidd and Barea (nice PG combo)
Novak=Peja (deadly shooter)
Shumpert/Brewer=Stevenson (lockdown defender)
Camby=Haywood (nice defensive big off bench)

I like the comparison. Hope this team can form it's identity soon!

Melo does not equal Dirk Nowitzki, Dirk is a 7 footer with the skills of a shooting guard unlike anything the league has ever seen, there is not match up for him in the NBA, on the other hand, Melo is easier to defend with long tall defenders and sure Lebrom can defend Melo, however, he cannot defend Dirk.

Stoudemire does not equal Marion (at least defensibly), while both athletic, Marion has always being one of the best defenders in the NBA, capable of guarding 4 positions, and switch assignment between the front and the back court. Sorry but Amare can’t even guard his own man.

Everything else I may agree.

NUPE wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:

KnicksFE wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Knixkik wrote:How about the Dallas championship team, does this team remind of them at all?

Melo=Nowitzki (i really believe this holds true as Melo gets older and more mature.)
Chandler=Chandler (Chandler in his prime regardless)
Stoudemire=Marion (I know the comparison isn't great, but both good athletes, good inside finishers, former all-stars but still capable scorers)
Smith=Terry (scoring spark off bench and/or finishing games)
Kidd and Felton=Kidd and Barea (nice PG combo)
Novak=Peja (deadly shooter)
Shumpert/Brewer=Stevenson (lockdown defender)
Camby=Haywood (nice defensive big off bench)

I like the comparison. Hope this team can form it's identity soon!

Melo does not equal Dirk Nowitzki, Dirk is a 7 footer with the skills of a shooting guard unlike anything the league has ever seen, there is not match up for him in the NBA, on the other hand, Melo is easier to defend with long tall defenders and sure Lebrom can defend Melo, however, he cannot defend Dirk.

Stoudemire does not equal Marion (at least defensibly), while both athletic, Marion has always being one of the best defenders in the NBA, capable of guarding 4 positions, and switch assignment between the front and the back court. Sorry but Amare can’t even guard his own man.

Everything else I may agree.

i dont really like comparisons. But Dirk and melo arent really comparable. I mean they are different players plus Dirk has a MVP, a NBA ring, and 2 final appearences. Melo as we know has struggles to get out of the first round. I think we should have our own identity

Actually, Dirk had his struggles as well and many people were screaming that a team could not win if Dirk was its best player... The same goes for KG. People seem to have selective or poor memories.

Knixkik wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:

NUPE wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:

KnicksFE wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Knixkik wrote:How about the Dallas championship team, does this team remind of them at all?

Melo=Nowitzki (i really believe this holds true as Melo gets older and more mature.)
Chandler=Chandler (Chandler in his prime regardless)
Stoudemire=Marion (I know the comparison isn't great, but both good athletes, good inside finishers, former all-stars but still capable scorers)
Smith=Terry (scoring spark off bench and/or finishing games)
Kidd and Felton=Kidd and Barea (nice PG combo)
Novak=Peja (deadly shooter)
Shumpert/Brewer=Stevenson (lockdown defender)
Camby=Haywood (nice defensive big off bench)

I like the comparison. Hope this team can form it's identity soon!

Melo does not equal Dirk Nowitzki, Dirk is a 7 footer with the skills of a shooting guard unlike anything the league has ever seen, there is not match up for him in the NBA, on the other hand, Melo is easier to defend with long tall defenders and sure Lebrom can defend Melo, however, he cannot defend Dirk.

Stoudemire does not equal Marion (at least defensibly), while both athletic, Marion has always being one of the best defenders in the NBA, capable of guarding 4 positions, and switch assignment between the front and the back court. Sorry but Amare can’t even guard his own man.

Everything else I may agree.

i dont really like comparisons. But Dirk and melo arent really comparable. I mean they are different players plus Dirk has a MVP, a NBA ring, and 2 final appearences. Melo as we know has struggles to get out of the first round. I think we should have our own identity

Actually, Dirk had his struggles as well and many people were screaming that a team could not win if Dirk was its best player... The same goes for KG. People seem to have selective or poor memories.

Relax NUPE im not a melo hater in fact i defend the guy. Im just stating their careers Im not saying Dirk is better than melo he just has had more success

It is unfair to compare career success because of the age difference. Nupe is exactly right, in order to put this into perspective you have to look at them at that point in their careers. Melo compares to Dirk in this way because at the time people did not think a Dirk-led team would ever win a title. He was a great scorer, but very one-dimensional. Thanks Nupe for understanding the comparison properly.

Well i never compared them. In fact i said you cant really compare them because they're different styles of play so understood as well lol

Knixkik wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:

NUPE wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:

KnicksFE wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Knixkik wrote:How about the Dallas championship team, does this team remind of them at all?

Melo=Nowitzki (i really believe this holds true as Melo gets older and more mature.)
Chandler=Chandler (Chandler in his prime regardless)
Stoudemire=Marion (I know the comparison isn't great, but both good athletes, good inside finishers, former all-stars but still capable scorers)
Smith=Terry (scoring spark off bench and/or finishing games)
Kidd and Felton=Kidd and Barea (nice PG combo)
Novak=Peja (deadly shooter)
Shumpert/Brewer=Stevenson (lockdown defender)
Camby=Haywood (nice defensive big off bench)

I like the comparison. Hope this team can form it's identity soon!

Melo does not equal Dirk Nowitzki, Dirk is a 7 footer with the skills of a shooting guard unlike anything the league has ever seen, there is not match up for him in the NBA, on the other hand, Melo is easier to defend with long tall defenders and sure Lebrom can defend Melo, however, he cannot defend Dirk.

Stoudemire does not equal Marion (at least defensibly), while both athletic, Marion has always being one of the best defenders in the NBA, capable of guarding 4 positions, and switch assignment between the front and the back court. Sorry but Amare can’t even guard his own man.

Everything else I may agree.

i dont really like comparisons. But Dirk and melo arent really comparable. I mean they are different players plus Dirk has a MVP, a NBA ring, and 2 final appearences. Melo as we know has struggles to get out of the first round. I think we should have our own identity

Actually, Dirk had his struggles as well and many people were screaming that a team could not win if Dirk was its best player... The same goes for KG. People seem to have selective or poor memories.

Relax NUPE im not a melo hater in fact i defend the guy. Im just stating their careers Im not saying Dirk is better than melo he just has had more success

It is unfair to compare career success because of the age difference. Nupe is exactly right, in order to put this into perspective you have to look at them at that point in their careers. Melo compares to Dirk in this way because at the time people did not think a Dirk-led team would ever win a title. He was a great scorer, but very one-dimensional. Thanks Nupe for understanding the comparison properly.

Well i never compared them. In fact i said you cant really compare them because they're different styles of play so understood as well lol

"i dont really like comparisons. But Dirk and melo arent really comparable. I mean they are different players plus Dirk has a MVP, a NBA ring, and 2 final appearences. Melo as we know has struggles to get out of the first round. I think we should have our own identity"

This is your statement and what i went by. Seems like you are comparing them based on success, even though Nowitzki accomplished each of those things later in his career. If you meant something else then my bad, i'm just following your quote which is based on player success. And yes they are different players, but no two players are the same.

You probably misinterpreted my quote. I mean that Dirk played on better teams than melo did. I never said Dirk was better and I also said that they play different style

Knixkik wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:

NUPE wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:

KnicksFE wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Knixkik wrote:How about the Dallas championship team, does this team remind of them at all?

Melo=Nowitzki (i really believe this holds true as Melo gets older and more mature.)
Chandler=Chandler (Chandler in his prime regardless)
Stoudemire=Marion (I know the comparison isn't great, but both good athletes, good inside finishers, former all-stars but still capable scorers)
Smith=Terry (scoring spark off bench and/or finishing games)
Kidd and Felton=Kidd and Barea (nice PG combo)
Novak=Peja (deadly shooter)
Shumpert/Brewer=Stevenson (lockdown defender)
Camby=Haywood (nice defensive big off bench)

I like the comparison. Hope this team can form it's identity soon!

Melo does not equal Dirk Nowitzki, Dirk is a 7 footer with the skills of a shooting guard unlike anything the league has ever seen, there is not match up for him in the NBA, on the other hand, Melo is easier to defend with long tall defenders and sure Lebrom can defend Melo, however, he cannot defend Dirk.

Stoudemire does not equal Marion (at least defensibly), while both athletic, Marion has always being one of the best defenders in the NBA, capable of guarding 4 positions, and switch assignment between the front and the back court. Sorry but Amare can’t even guard his own man.

Everything else I may agree.

i dont really like comparisons. But Dirk and melo arent really comparable. I mean they are different players plus Dirk has a MVP, a NBA ring, and 2 final appearences. Melo as we know has struggles to get out of the first round. I think we should have our own identity

Actually, Dirk had his struggles as well and many people were screaming that a team could not win if Dirk was its best player... The same goes for KG. People seem to have selective or poor memories.

Relax NUPE im not a melo hater in fact i defend the guy. Im just stating their careers Im not saying Dirk is better than melo he just has had more success

It is unfair to compare career success because of the age difference. Nupe is exactly right, in order to put this into perspective you have to look at them at that point in their careers. Melo compares to Dirk in this way because at the time people did not think a Dirk-led team would ever win a title. He was a great scorer, but very one-dimensional. Thanks Nupe for understanding the comparison properly.

Well i never compared them. In fact i said you cant really compare them because they're different styles of play so understood as well lol

"i dont really like comparisons. But Dirk and melo arent really comparable. I mean they are different players plus Dirk has a MVP, a NBA ring, and 2 final appearences. Melo as we know has struggles to get out of the first round. I think we should have our own identity"

This is your statement and what i went by. Seems like you are comparing them based on success, even though Nowitzki accomplished each of those things later in his career. If you meant something else then my bad, i'm just following your quote which is based on player success. And yes they are different players, but no two players are the same.

You probably misinterpreted my quote. I mean that Dirk played on better teams than melo did. I never said Dirk was better and I also said that they play different style

Sorry not to get too specific, but i don't see how the quote was misinterpreted. I took it for what it said. I see nothing in that quote about Dirk playing for better teams, or anything about their playing styles being different. All you said was their are different players (which can mean playing styles so i get that) and the rest is based on dirk's individual success in comparison to Melo. I checked to see if there were any quotes previous to that, because i thought i was missing something, but i didn't see any. You simply stated they can't be compared and pointed out Dirk's successes, and as both myself and Nupe pointed out, it isn't a fair comparison because of their experience. It took until age 28 for Dirk to win his MVP (Melo's age headed into this season) and even after that, it was thought that you could not build a championship team around Dirk. That is exactly what is being said about Melo.

With all due respect I dont appreciate telling me what i meant. Im sorry that my typing gave you the wrong impression but thats not what i meant. I respect you opinions just dont jump to conclusions I mean i wouldnt do it to you

IrishKnickFan wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:

NUPE wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:

KnicksFE wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Knixkik wrote:How about the Dallas championship team, does this team remind of them at all?

Melo=Nowitzki (i really believe this holds true as Melo gets older and more mature.)
Chandler=Chandler (Chandler in his prime regardless)
Stoudemire=Marion (I know the comparison isn't great, but both good athletes, good inside finishers, former all-stars but still capable scorers)
Smith=Terry (scoring spark off bench and/or finishing games)
Kidd and Felton=Kidd and Barea (nice PG combo)
Novak=Peja (deadly shooter)
Shumpert/Brewer=Stevenson (lockdown defender)
Camby=Haywood (nice defensive big off bench)

I like the comparison. Hope this team can form it's identity soon!

Melo does not equal Dirk Nowitzki, Dirk is a 7 footer with the skills of a shooting guard unlike anything the league has ever seen, there is not match up for him in the NBA, on the other hand, Melo is easier to defend with long tall defenders and sure Lebrom can defend Melo, however, he cannot defend Dirk.

Stoudemire does not equal Marion (at least defensibly), while both athletic, Marion has always being one of the best defenders in the NBA, capable of guarding 4 positions, and switch assignment between the front and the back court. Sorry but Amare can’t even guard his own man.

Everything else I may agree.

i dont really like comparisons. But Dirk and melo arent really comparable. I mean they are different players plus Dirk has a MVP, a NBA ring, and 2 final appearences. Melo as we know has struggles to get out of the first round. I think we should have our own identity

Actually, Dirk had his struggles as well and many people were screaming that a team could not win if Dirk was its best player... The same goes for KG. People seem to have selective or poor memories.

Relax NUPE im not a melo hater in fact i defend the guy. Im just stating their careers Im not saying Dirk is better than melo he just has had more success

It is unfair to compare career success because of the age difference. Nupe is exactly right, in order to put this into perspective you have to look at them at that point in their careers. Melo compares to Dirk in this way because at the time people did not think a Dirk-led team would ever win a title. He was a great scorer, but very one-dimensional. Thanks Nupe for understanding the comparison properly.

Well i never compared them. In fact i said you cant really compare them because they're different styles of play so understood as well lol

"i dont really like comparisons. But Dirk and melo arent really comparable. I mean they are different players plus Dirk has a MVP, a NBA ring, and 2 final appearences. Melo as we know has struggles to get out of the first round. I think we should have our own identity"

This is your statement and what i went by. Seems like you are comparing them based on success, even though Nowitzki accomplished each of those things later in his career. If you meant something else then my bad, i'm just following your quote which is based on player success. And yes they are different players, but no two players are the same.

You probably misinterpreted my quote. I mean that Dirk played on better teams than melo did. I never said Dirk was better and I also said that they play different style

Sorry not to get too specific, but i don't see how the quote was misinterpreted. I took it for what it said. I see nothing in that quote about Dirk playing for better teams, or anything about their playing styles being different. All you said was their are different players (which can mean playing styles so i get that) and the rest is based on dirk's individual success in comparison to Melo. I checked to see if there were any quotes previous to that, because i thought i was missing something, but i didn't see any. You simply stated they can't be compared and pointed out Dirk's successes, and as both myself and Nupe pointed out, it isn't a fair comparison because of their experience. It took until age 28 for Dirk to win his MVP (Melo's age headed into this season) and even after that, it was thought that you could not build a championship team around Dirk. That is exactly what is being said about Melo.

With all due respect I dont appreciate telling me what i meant. Im sorry that my typing gave you the wrong impression but thats not what i meant. I respect you opinions just dont jump to conclusions I mean i wouldnt do it to you

At 28 years old, Dirk was already a sure top 10 player, all NBA first team and had taken his team to the NBA finals, so as far as NBA achievement, Melo and Dirk don’t compare much at all, at the same age. Can this change? May be.

As far as comparing Melo to Kevin Garnet, that’s even worst, since at 28 years old Garnet already had multiple all NBA first team, various all defensive NBA first team and various NBA rebounding tittles under his name. So Melo has a lot catch-up to do.

IrishKnickFan wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:

NUPE wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:

KnicksFE wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Knixkik wrote:How about the Dallas championship team, does this team remind of them at all?

Melo=Nowitzki (i really believe this holds true as Melo gets older and more mature.)
Chandler=Chandler (Chandler in his prime regardless)
Stoudemire=Marion (I know the comparison isn't great, but both good athletes, good inside finishers, former all-stars but still capable scorers)
Smith=Terry (scoring spark off bench and/or finishing games)
Kidd and Felton=Kidd and Barea (nice PG combo)
Novak=Peja (deadly shooter)
Shumpert/Brewer=Stevenson (lockdown defender)
Camby=Haywood (nice defensive big off bench)

I like the comparison. Hope this team can form it's identity soon!

Melo does not equal Dirk Nowitzki, Dirk is a 7 footer with the skills of a shooting guard unlike anything the league has ever seen, there is not match up for him in the NBA, on the other hand, Melo is easier to defend with long tall defenders and sure Lebrom can defend Melo, however, he cannot defend Dirk.

Stoudemire does not equal Marion (at least defensibly), while both athletic, Marion has always being one of the best defenders in the NBA, capable of guarding 4 positions, and switch assignment between the front and the back court. Sorry but Amare can’t even guard his own man.

Everything else I may agree.

i dont really like comparisons. But Dirk and melo arent really comparable. I mean they are different players plus Dirk has a MVP, a NBA ring, and 2 final appearences. Melo as we know has struggles to get out of the first round. I think we should have our own identity

Actually, Dirk had his struggles as well and many people were screaming that a team could not win if Dirk was its best player... The same goes for KG. People seem to have selective or poor memories.

Relax NUPE im not a melo hater in fact i defend the guy. Im just stating their careers Im not saying Dirk is better than melo he just has had more success

It is unfair to compare career success because of the age difference. Nupe is exactly right, in order to put this into perspective you have to look at them at that point in their careers. Melo compares to Dirk in this way because at the time people did not think a Dirk-led team would ever win a title. He was a great scorer, but very one-dimensional. Thanks Nupe for understanding the comparison properly.

Well i never compared them. In fact i said you cant really compare them because they're different styles of play so understood as well lol

"i dont really like comparisons. But Dirk and melo arent really comparable. I mean they are different players plus Dirk has a MVP, a NBA ring, and 2 final appearences. Melo as we know has struggles to get out of the first round. I think we should have our own identity"

This is your statement and what i went by. Seems like you are comparing them based on success, even though Nowitzki accomplished each of those things later in his career. If you meant something else then my bad, i'm just following your quote which is based on player success. And yes they are different players, but no two players are the same.

You probably misinterpreted my quote. I mean that Dirk played on better teams than melo did. I never said Dirk was better and I also said that they play different style

Sorry not to get too specific, but i don't see how the quote was misinterpreted. I took it for what it said. I see nothing in that quote about Dirk playing for better teams, or anything about their playing styles being different. All you said was their are different players (which can mean playing styles so i get that) and the rest is based on dirk's individual success in comparison to Melo. I checked to see if there were any quotes previous to that, because i thought i was missing something, but i didn't see any. You simply stated they can't be compared and pointed out Dirk's successes, and as both myself and Nupe pointed out, it isn't a fair comparison because of their experience. It took until age 28 for Dirk to win his MVP (Melo's age headed into this season) and even after that, it was thought that you could not build a championship team around Dirk. That is exactly what is being said about Melo.

With all due respect I dont appreciate telling me what i meant. Im sorry that my typing gave you the wrong impression but thats not what i meant. I respect you opinions just dont jump to conclusions I mean i wouldnt do it to you

I respect your opinion as well, i was simply responding to what you said, but i guess what you said was not what you meant. I can understand and respect that.