Uptown wrote:

3G4G wrote:

Uptown wrote:

3G4G wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:

tkf wrote:

holfresh wrote:

3G4G wrote:

holfresh wrote:Sunday December 9th,...Denver comes to town...George Karl yapping..Gallo yapping...Love it...

And thus far Gallo has held his own and/or OWNED..... stats and "eye test" don't lie.

http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=320121018

http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=300323018

Time for the Chipmunk to put the Rooster in his place once and for all time

Ha...one game...Gallo got his rocks off against the Knicks and managed to average 15 pts for the entire season....No doubt this next game will have a little more meaning...

he owned the knicks, better yet, he took a dump on carmelo... that was gold right there.....

until he get's out of the 1st round, he should stfu and worry about his team.

This coming from a fan of a Team with a player who has only been out of the first round once(under the same skitzo coach referred to earlier in the thread) heralded as Lebron like by fan boys, best "PURE SCORER"(when he's not) of the nba, referring to himself as the leader(which he isn't) of the Knicks and that he feels it's his time(to be determined)

Melo should zip it until the end results prove he's a leader and that it is truly his time and if he can do it in a team environment lead the NBA in scoring for once in his life. Make an ALL NBA First Team at least once. SHEESH...Hella Overrated if I ever saw one

Whats up with these propaganda, black-n-white posts? Melo only made it out of the 1st round once, but you fail to mention that just about every team he played against, the Nuggs didn't have home-court and weren't favored to lose. Not to mention losing to the Spurs and Lakers most of the times....

Trying to piggy back on the counter argument when Duroz is going at a guy who has only been in the past-season twice and wasn't favored to beat OKC or the Lakers when he did?

Please explain why the Melo led Nuggets lost to The Clippers(who most Knick fans deride whenever the chance presents itself as the worst franchise ever) and to the Deron led Jazz? That could have been 2 additional times he made it out and who knows how far they could have went. Melo led Nuggets had a trend and a low ceiling....this we know because evidence exist and is set in stone.

There's nothing black and white about the posts. Facts are facts. Yes Gallo hasn't been out of the first round(not a Superstar, not a Top 10 player) and our Superstar(debatable) perceived Top 10 player has only done it 1 time in like 9 tries, which means no need to bring up the "get out of the first round" garbage! As if that's a Gold Standard or something

Not sure why you felt it was necessary to bring up how poorly the Clips were run in the past. That detail has nothing to do with how potent that '06 version of the Clips were. Not only did they have homecourt advantage, but they had a better-more balanced roster than the Nuggs that year. Sam Cassell, Elton Brand (who dropped 25 per in '06) a young Maggette, Chris Kaman who nearly averaged a double-double, Cat Mobley and Radmonovic. In fact, that team had 6 players average double figures that year. That team also had a young Sean Livingston. As I said, they were the better team.

I'll give you the Jazz. The Nuggs had homecourt and should have won the series. Melo averaged 31 per, but it wasn't enough. Bad defeat, no excuses there.

Again you can bring up the 1-9 tries example, but you have to present All of the Facts. This is the BBall court, not the court of law.

Explain how Lebron took a crappy Cavs roster year after year and advanced and advanced and advanced against more balanced opponent rosters? See that doesn't fly when the words ELITE are thrown around when mentioning Melo. He should have been good enough to beat the Clippers. Sam Cassell was out of his prime but yes Brand was very good that year(MVP candidate and ALL NBA teamer) but let's not go without mentioning the Nuggets roster....

Melo>Brand(right?)
Najera>Rad
Camby>Kaman(right?)
Miller=Cassell

Patterson<Cat
Kleiza<Maggette
Buckner=Ross
Earl Boykins>Livingston(yes Boykins was better than Livi that year LMAO @ mentioning him like he was on some Phenom ish)
Reggie Evans>Rebraca(this one is by a wide margin)

You crutch home court advantage? So let me get this straight if we don't get a 4th seed this season are you saying we're primed to lose in the first round without it?

He was trash that series. Melo had 4 games where his FGA matched or exceeded his overall point total. Definition of Chuckster. He only lead his team to 1 win, he didn't even help them push the Clippers a max of 7gms.

tkf wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:How did Wade do it? Shaq, Lebron - how did he do without them?

How did Garnett do it? He didn't until he joined a dream team?

How did PP do it? He didn't until he joined a dream team?

Lebron? Melo ain't no Lebron.

TKF, keep spewing the nonsense. Its still nonsense.

carmelo had billups and AI, he then came and had amare, he also had camby and Andre miller and kenyon martin.. they are no slouch....

it is not nonsense, Wade had an older and out of his prime shaq and alonzo....

wade also defended and allowed his other teamates to be themselves...

carmelo chokes the life out of the ball and everyone else seeking a shot...

Lebron,wade, shaq, garnett are all superior talents. not even close, they all have won many individual awards, and first team all NBA votes, mvps, all defensive player awards, scoring titles.... that is what those guys have in common..

carmelo has none of that, no scoring titles, no first team all nba, no mvps, sure as hell no defensive honors.. nothing.. he isn't on their level..

those guys were able to team up with fairly equal talent and win..

carmelo can't do that, he needs to have someone better than him.. problem is, he thinks he is on that level.. he thinks he is the lead singer in the band, when he really should be that guy who has a verse or a few lines.... which is why his band stinks or consistantly underachieves.. he is like the guy who continues to sing out loud and off key everytime the group tries to harmonize... just to let them know that he is still head honcho.. the guy is a first rate jerk, jackass, loser, clown, punpkin headed mofo who has done nothing to garner the defense he has around here and other forums, .. these next few years can't go by fast enough!

haha - you are one twisted, ANGRY and demented individual

What personal honors has Paul Pierce won?

Melo had Amare? Which Amare are you talkin about? The one who's shot was getting blocked by 5 foot guards or the PHX superstar?

When Wade defended and allowed his teammates to be "themselves", how did that workout without Shaq and/or Lebron?

Again I ask, how did Garnett do prior to joining the dream team (even though I think that Melo ain't Garnett)?

How does AI (LMFAO) who was awful in the playoffs, who shot 40 pct for his career and averaged 26.5 shots in his career help Melo? Do you hate selfish chuckers or not? Be consistent!

Melo did pretty good with CB (the only good player he has played with).

Your hate defies logic. But you are free to hate as a (angry) fan.

mrKnickShot wrote:

tkf wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:How did Wade do it? Shaq, Lebron - how did he do without them?

How did Garnett do it? He didn't until he joined a dream team?

How did PP do it? He didn't until he joined a dream team?

Lebron? Melo ain't no Lebron.

TKF, keep spewing the nonsense. Its still nonsense.

carmelo had billups and AI, he then came and had amare, he also had camby and Andre miller and kenyon martin.. they are no slouch....

it is not nonsense, Wade had an older and out of his prime shaq and alonzo....

wade also defended and allowed his other teamates to be themselves...

carmelo chokes the life out of the ball and everyone else seeking a shot...

Lebron,wade, shaq, garnett are all superior talents. not even close, they all have won many individual awards, and first team all NBA votes, mvps, all defensive player awards, scoring titles.... that is what those guys have in common..

carmelo has none of that, no scoring titles, no first team all nba, no mvps, sure as hell no defensive honors.. nothing.. he isn't on their level..

those guys were able to team up with fairly equal talent and win..

carmelo can't do that, he needs to have someone better than him.. problem is, he thinks he is on that level.. he thinks he is the lead singer in the band, when he really should be that guy who has a verse or a few lines.... which is why his band stinks or consistantly underachieves.. he is like the guy who continues to sing out loud and off key everytime the group tries to harmonize... just to let them know that he is still head honcho.. the guy is a first rate jerk, jackass, loser, clown, punpkin headed mofo who has done nothing to garner the defense he has around here and other forums, .. these next few years can't go by fast enough!

haha - you are one twisted, ANGRY and demented individual

What personal honors has Paul Pierce won?

Melo had Amare? Which Amare are you talkin about? The one who's shot was getting blocked by 5 foot guards or the PHX superstar?

When Wade defended and allowed his teammates to be "themselves", how did that workout without Shaq and/or Lebron?

Again I ask, how did Garnett do prior to joining the dream team (even though I think that Melo ain't Garnett)?

How does AI (LMFAO) who was awful in the playoffs, who shot 40 pct for his career and averaged 26.5 shots in his career help Melo? Do you hate selfish chuckers or not? Be consistent!

Melo did pretty good with CB (the only good player he has played with).

Your hate defies logic. But you are free to hate as a (angry) fan.

pierce has a ring and mvp finals

AI took the sixers to the finals, was scoring champ 4 times, but hey, he is not a "pure" scorer, right? LOL.... 3 times all nba first team, and oh, mvp of the league

KG: champion,nba mvp,nba first team 3x, nba all defensive first team 9 times.... KG was mvp before he joined the celts...

this is not blind hate just facts.. carmelo holds none of these honors, he is closer to joe johnson than he is these guys...

Melo did pretty good with CB (the only good player he has played with).

so camby wasn't good? andre miller, he wasn't good right? iverson, he wasn't good, right?

i can just stop here, not only do you lack an argument but your attempts are just ridiculous and you know it.... I think you know better than what you are posting, to say billups was the only good player he played with is waving the symbolic white flag man...

can't waste my time with this any longer... come on, get serious...

mrKnickShot wrote:TKF,

Your circumvention of the facts in your arguments are comical and extremely partisan.

Not everyone is capable of being rational.

Have fun in la la land.

Kobe had Shaq, Gasol, Bynum and PJAX

Wade had Lebron, Bosh and Shaq

Pierce had KG, Allen and Rondo

Melo had uh uh um uh - CAMBY!! Yay - good point! Oh and of course Andre Miller! Did I mention that he had the HOF AI?

You might just not be capable of getting it (logically). Its like trying to teach a student with an IQ of 60.

here is where your argument fails.. you fail to recognize all of those guys were great in their own right, they were and are all better than carmelo...

your crutch is that they had one another.... and poor carmelo has no one.. well ask.. why in the hell did we ante up the farm to get him...

either the front office is just that damn stupid, or carmelo is going to find a way do all of a sudden do something he hasn't done ever... beat those elite players...

funny thing you sarcastically say carmelo had camby.. that same camby played a huge role with the knicks going to the finals, but then again he had better guys than melo around him in spree and houston..

you look at this as melo not having this guy or that guy.. when the truth is, billups had melo, camby had melo, kenyon had melo, miller had melo, which is why they didn't sniff the finals with him.... they were stuck with him, not the other way around!

your problem other than really not really having much of a clue what you are talking about here, is that you just have a hard time dealing with facts..

fact is, carmelo isn't on those guys level... no matter how much you want to stir the pot up and come up with a different stew, it just won't work...

add meat, potatoes, veggies stir it up, you have a meat potato and veggie stew, keep stirring and you still won't have tomato soup..... sorry bro... it is what it is....

mrKnickShot wrote:I have realized with you. Its all about Logical/Analytical reasoning - and, you don't possess these wonderful tools.

Meat, Potatoes and Stew. Its a wonderful life (I'm sure)

you can keep attacking me personally, it just shows you have no argument, I ripped your ass to shreds, and it shows, there is nothing logical with your argument, all you are doing is making excuses... it is logical to understand that the reason why the other guys have won is because they are just better players... but in your mind, your logic says no they aren't, they had help... yet when it has been pointed out that carmelo did have help, then you down play the players on his team....

let me ask you this before I shut it down MR logic... the knicks now have camby, much older, they have kidd, much older,,they have a 35 year old euro guard.....tell me, who do they have that is going to carry carmelo's fat ass? if camby wasn't good enough back then, how does he factor in now? if carmelo doesn't have a wade or shaq, then why should we believe he can help the knicks win now.... where is the logic in that.. you are basically defeating your own argument, in such true, but expected fashion... he still has to face lebron, wade, garnett, pierce allen, rondo.... LOL. .nothing has changed.. are you gearing up, getting your new excuses ready?

which is why it made no sense selling the farm to bring his wack azz here.....

skeng wrote:Melo is made out to be Batman, when in reality, he's more Robin. Robin is still good though.

Robin is good at what? That's an insult to Carmelo Anthony. Robin has absolutely no skills. None. If Carmelo Anthony is Robin he should be considered a bench warming role player who simply observes the stars of the team being special. Comes in the game just as someone who knows the plays. Robin? Carmelo Anthony is a skilled star and elite player in this league. Even though Knick fans love to paint him as just another player in the league (altho all other teams, coaches and fans know that's bogus). Robin would be more like JYD. No skills but all effort. Very few great players have received support from Knick fans. We can start with the constant booing of Patrick Ewing. I had a Heat fan ask me "Why do Knick fans always sh#t on their great players? Carmelo Anthony can score anywhere on the court and on anyone. I hope he leaves NY because y'all treat him horribly....just like all of your other great players in Knicks history". People loved the role players on Ewing's Knicks but the future Hall of Famer rarely got his props. When they lost it was his fault. When they won it was everyone else's contribution. It's a nasty cycle. I, for one, am happy Carmelo Anthony is a Knick. Others would rather people like Gallo who will never be considered elite. Plenty of players in this league have his skill set along with his inconsistancy. Carmelo? His name is in the mouth of anyone who knows what a good to great bball player looks like. And for the most part, titles are won with elite players. When will people learn?

SupremeCommander wrote:

tkf wrote:

TheloniusMonk wrote:

tkf wrote:

holfresh wrote:

3G4G wrote:

holfresh wrote:Sunday December 9th,...Denver comes to town...George Karl yapping..Gallo yapping...Love it...

And thus far Gallo has held his own and/or OWNED..... stats and "eye test" don't lie.

http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=320121018

http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=300323018

Time for the Chipmunk to put the Rooster in his place once and for all time

Ha...one game...Gallo got his rocks off against the Knicks and managed to average 15 pts for the entire season....No doubt this next game will have a little more meaning...

he owned the knicks, better yet, he took a dump on carmelo... that was gold right there.....

Who's the better player?

gallo

RealGM has had some sort of effect on you

Anyone claiming Gallo is the better player need to work with the drugs, not against them. Either that or leave the damn bath salts alone altogether.

knicks1248 wrote:I'll trade brewer and smith for gallo in a heart beat..

actually, I wouldn't mind that either. Watch how this takes up way off topic :)

tkf wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:I have realized with you. Its all about Logical/Analytical reasoning - and, you don't possess these wonderful tools.

Meat, Potatoes and Stew. Its a wonderful life (I'm sure)

you can keep attacking me personally, it just shows you have no argument, I ripped your ass to shreds, and it shows, there is nothing logical with your argument, all you are doing is making excuses... it is logical to understand that the reason why the other guys have won is because they are just better players... but in your mind, your logic says no they aren't, they had help... yet when it has been pointed out that carmelo did have help, then you down play the players on his team....

let me ask you this before I shut it down MR logic... the knicks now have camby, much older, they have kidd, much older,,they have a 35 year old euro guard.....tell me, who do they have that is going to carry carmelo's fat ass? if camby wasn't good enough back then, how does he factor in now? if carmelo doesn't have a wade or shaq, then why should we believe he can help the knicks win now.... where is the logic in that.. you are basically defeating your own argument, in such true, but expected fashion... he still has to face lebron, wade, garnett, pierce allen, rondo.... LOL. .nothing has changed.. are you gearing up, getting your new excuses ready?

which is why it made no sense selling the farm to bring his wack azz here.....

it is logical to understand that the reason why the other guys have won is because they are just better players ...

but in your mind, your logic says no they aren't

yet when it has been pointed out that carmelo did have help, then you down play the players on his team

if camby wasn't good enough back then, how does he factor in now? if carmelo doesn't have a wade or shaq, then why should we believe he can help the knicks win now

Very clear an unambiguous logic. A level headed non hateful post.