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Nalod
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8/23/2012  11:08 AM
Dolan came aboard to run MSG in 1999 the same year Checketts hired Layden to replace "Interm" Tapscott.

Dolan fires Checketts beacause he was "the face of MSG".

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/05/16/sports/sports-business-with-checketts-out-dolan-steps-in-at-garden.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm

In 2007 Stern goes public that the knicks are "Not intellegently managed". While Stern is not the Beloved one (what comish is BTW?) imagine how bad it must be when the Commish has to make such a statement?

James Dolan is a moron. There is no arguement to make regarding his tenure (record) and influenece he has had on it.

Prokhorov has yet to distinguish himself but hardly has failed.

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8/23/2012  11:15 AM
Nalod wrote:
StraightShot wrote:Jim's really misunderstood. He got a rocky start, but I've been impressed by his growth and maturation. This year he's finally made some wise business decisions and put together a good team.

We being sarcastic?

He let lin go without compensation. He bumbled the negotiation and took it personal. He embarassed his coach and his GM.

Very impressive?

Put together a good team? Thats Grunwalds job.

Dolan spends money. He did good with eating Billups contract and signing Tyson.

Oh, okay. Now I got it. Grunwald gets the credit for the good decision, but Dolan gets the blame for the bad decisions. Thanks for clarifying.

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8/23/2012  11:19 AM
foosballnick wrote:Nalod, we all know Dolan's track record. But why would you choose Proko over him? The Nets are merely a toy to Proko so on top of his two abysmal years as owner in terms of on the court record, you really do not know what you have as an owner?

Dolan is at least a known commodity. He is now accountable to stockholders for MSG brands, so therefore will feel the effects of bad choices. He may not win ships, but he must at a minimum keep the Knicks and Rangers competitive. We may not like dolan's choices and tactics, but he does not present the downside risk of Proko. Since MSG has been spun off in 2010 as a separate publicly traded company, Dolan is much more accountable for the Knicks results than he was previously under the cable vision and dad's teet.

The Nets are a toy that Proko can use up and discard at any time.

Knicks are 3% of Cablevisions revenue. I can't recall how large a chunk it is of MSG as a seporate entity.

Prokhorov appears to have a management team in place and Im going to guess his attempt to further engrain himself into his country's politics and his business keeps him busy.

If you have good people running things you might have good results down the road. Its very early in the ownership given the level of ambition. The last two years have been for setting up for the move.

At the same time for two years when Dolan had DOnnie running things our record stunk. BUt I got it, there was a plan! Im ok with failure because you don't always succeed.

The list is so long. The whole flurtation with Vin Baker was his doing. The Isiah years. Dolan extending Isiah and tried to bring him back. How he handled the sextual harassment suit against the team. His constant humiliation of so many of his coaches or Gm's. Even still he made Woodson look stupid. It continues. He made walsh look foolish and made Grunny look bad hiding in the closet.

The gag order against the press is demoralizing to his coachs and staff.

Good organizations make good decisions.

I'll take my chances with Prokhorov running MSG than what Dolan has done.

The Hobbit Clown is not a quality person.

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8/23/2012  11:25 AM
GustavBahler wrote:
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StraightShot wrote:Jim's really misunderstood. He got a rocky start, but I've been impressed by his growth and maturation. This year he's finally made some wise business decisions and put together a good team.

Um, is this a sock puppet account for Dolan or someone he hired? Dolan's shown literally no maturation and the groundwork for this team was all lain by Walsh, a guy Dolan couldn't wait to get rid of. Why did you choose StraightShot as your name? Is that a reference to Dolan's awful ****ing blues band?

Don't believe its one of Dolan's minions, doubt they would have chosen a name like that. A bit too obvious. Wouldn't be surprised if it was a regular poster here. But the person isn't spamming or trolling in the strictest sense of the word, so no harm no foul.

I wasn't being totally serious. I just find it odd that a regular fan could come to those conclusions.

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8/23/2012  11:25 AM    LAST EDITED: 8/23/2012  11:26 AM
StraightShot wrote:
Nalod wrote:
StraightShot wrote:Jim's really misunderstood. He got a rocky start, but I've been impressed by his growth and maturation. This year he's finally made some wise business decisions and put together a good team.

We being sarcastic?

He let lin go without compensation. He bumbled the negotiation and took it personal. He embarassed his coach and his GM.

Very impressive?

Put together a good team? Thats Grunwalds job.

Dolan spends money. He did good with eating Billups contract and signing Tyson.

Oh, okay. Now I got it. Grunwald gets the credit for the good decision, but Dolan gets the blame for the bad decisions. Thanks for clarifying.

An owners job is to hire a good GM and let him do his job. When he sticks his nose in where it does not belong and involves himself in trades, FA's, and childish politics due to his little penis syndrome, the teams and its fans suffer.

The Yankees did not turn it around under George until he was banned and was force to allow stick to manage the team without his constant meddling. When he came back, he (mostly) continued to stay out of things.

So to answer your question, yes. Dolan does not get credit for the good moves but does get blame for the bad ones since many of them stem from his little penis syndrome. These good moves are attributed to him not being involved.

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8/23/2012  11:28 AM
Nalod wrote:Dolan came aboard to run MSG in 1999 the same year Checketts hired Layden to replace "Interm" Tapscott.

Dolan fires Checketts beacause he was "the face of MSG".

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/05/16/sports/sports-business-with-checketts-out-dolan-steps-in-at-garden.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm

In 2007 Stern goes public that the knicks are "Not intellegently managed". While Stern is not the Beloved one (what comish is BTW?) imagine how bad it must be when the Commish has to make such a statement?

James Dolan is a moron. There is no arguement to make regarding his tenure (record) and influenece he has had on it.

Prokhorov has yet to distinguish himself but hardly has failed.

The Nyets haven't won jack since he took over. Empty vessels make the most noise!

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8/23/2012  11:31 AM    LAST EDITED: 8/23/2012  11:32 AM
infinitilov100 wrote:
Nalod wrote:Dolan came aboard to run MSG in 1999 the same year Checketts hired Layden to replace "Interm" Tapscott.

Dolan fires Checketts beacause he was "the face of MSG".

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/05/16/sports/sports-business-with-checketts-out-dolan-steps-in-at-garden.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm

In 2007 Stern goes public that the knicks are "Not intellegently managed". While Stern is not the Beloved one (what comish is BTW?) imagine how bad it must be when the Commish has to make such a statement?

James Dolan is a moron. There is no arguement to make regarding his tenure (record) and influenece he has had on it.

Prokhorov has yet to distinguish himself but hardly has failed.

The Nyets haven't won jack since he took over. Empty vessels make the most noise!

You are so right! You must hear the echo every time you type.

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8/23/2012  12:05 PM
Nalod wrote:
infinitilov100 wrote:
Nalod wrote:Dolan came aboard to run MSG in 1999 the same year Checketts hired Layden to replace "Interm" Tapscott.

Dolan fires Checketts beacause he was "the face of MSG".

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/05/16/sports/sports-business-with-checketts-out-dolan-steps-in-at-garden.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm

In 2007 Stern goes public that the knicks are "Not intellegently managed". While Stern is not the Beloved one (what comish is BTW?) imagine how bad it must be when the Commish has to make such a statement?

James Dolan is a moron. There is no arguement to make regarding his tenure (record) and influenece he has had on it.

Prokhorov has yet to distinguish himself but hardly has failed.

The Nyets haven't won jack since he took over. Empty vessels make the most noise!

You are so right! You must hear the echo every time you type.

You two are cute!

You should really get together and drink vodka - that would be an interesting illusion.

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8/23/2012  12:20 PM
Nalod wrote:
foosballnick wrote:Nalod, we all know Dolan's track record. But why would you choose Proko over him? The Nets are merely a toy to Proko so on top of his two abysmal years as owner in terms of on the court record, you really do not know what you have as an owner?

Dolan is at least a known commodity. He is now accountable to stockholders for MSG brands, so therefore will feel the effects of bad choices. He may not win ships, but he must at a minimum keep the Knicks and Rangers competitive. We may not like dolan's choices and tactics, but he does not present the downside risk of Proko. Since MSG has been spun off in 2010 as a separate publicly traded company, Dolan is much more accountable for the Knicks results than he was previously under the cable vision and dad's teet.

The Nets are a toy that Proko can use up and discard at any time.

Knicks are 3% of Cablevisions revenue. I can't recall how large a chunk it is of MSG as a seporate entity.

Prokhorov appears to have a management team in place and Im going to guess his attempt to further engrain himself into his country's politics and his business keeps him busy.

If you have good people running things you might have good results down the road. Its very early in the ownership given the level of ambition. The last two years have been for setting up for the move.

At the same time for two years when Dolan had DOnnie running things our record stunk. BUt I got it, there was a plan! Im ok with failure because you don't always succeed.

The list is so long. The whole flurtation with Vin Baker was his doing. The Isiah years. Dolan extending Isiah and tried to bring him back. How he handled the sextual harassment suit against the team. His constant humiliation of so many of his coaches or Gm's. Even still he made Woodson look stupid. It continues. He made walsh look foolish and made Grunny look bad hiding in the closet.

The gag order against the press is demoralizing to his coachs and staff.

Good organizations make good decisions.

I'll take my chances with Prokhorov running MSG than what Dolan has done.

The Hobbit Clown is not a quality person.

I see nothing wrong with the Gag order. The New York media is the biggest pain in the ass and the constantly make stuff up. Why feed to sharks?

They have access to players before, during and after games, they don't need to know what goes on behind the scenes.

the fact that you can't even have an unrelated thread without some tool here bringing him up make me think that rational minds are few and far between. Bunch of emotionally weak, angst riddled people. I mean, how many times can you argue the same shyt
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8/23/2012  12:22 PM
Nalod wrote:
infinitilov100 wrote:
Nalod wrote:Dolan came aboard to run MSG in 1999 the same year Checketts hired Layden to replace "Interm" Tapscott.

Dolan fires Checketts beacause he was "the face of MSG".

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/05/16/sports/sports-business-with-checketts-out-dolan-steps-in-at-garden.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm

In 2007 Stern goes public that the knicks are "Not intellegently managed". While Stern is not the Beloved one (what comish is BTW?) imagine how bad it must be when the Commish has to make such a statement?

James Dolan is a moron. There is no arguement to make regarding his tenure (record) and influenece he has had on it.

Prokhorov has yet to distinguish himself but hardly has failed.

The Nyets haven't won jack since he took over. Empty vessels make the most noise!

You are so right! You must hear the echo every time you type.

yes and they haven't really been relevant except for the JKidd Era. That franchise is a far/far bigger embarrassment. I still see no reason to support Prok unless your a closet Natz fan.

the fact that you can't even have an unrelated thread without some tool here bringing him up make me think that rational minds are few and far between. Bunch of emotionally weak, angst riddled people. I mean, how many times can you argue the same shyt
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8/23/2012  12:32 PM
Nalod wrote:
infinitilov100 wrote:
Nalod wrote:Dolan came aboard to run MSG in 1999 the same year Checketts hired Layden to replace "Interm" Tapscott.

Dolan fires Checketts beacause he was "the face of MSG".

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/05/16/sports/sports-business-with-checketts-out-dolan-steps-in-at-garden.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm

In 2007 Stern goes public that the knicks are "Not intellegently managed". While Stern is not the Beloved one (what comish is BTW?) imagine how bad it must be when the Commish has to make such a statement?

James Dolan is a moron. There is no arguement to make regarding his tenure (record) and influenece he has had on it.

Prokhorov has yet to distinguish himself but hardly has failed.

The Nyets haven't won jack since he took over. Empty vessels make the most noise!

You are so right! You must hear the echo every time you type.

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8/23/2012  12:36 PM
Nalod wrote:
foosballnick wrote:Nalod, we all know Dolan's track record. But why would you choose Proko over him? The Nets are merely a toy to Proko so on top of his two abysmal years as owner in terms of on the court record, you really do not know what you have as an owner?

Dolan is at least a known commodity. He is now accountable to stockholders for MSG brands, so therefore will feel the effects of bad choices. He may not win ships, but he must at a minimum keep the Knicks and Rangers competitive. We may not like dolan's choices and tactics, but he does not present the downside risk of Proko. Since MSG has been spun off in 2010 as a separate publicly traded company, Dolan is much more accountable for the Knicks results than he was previously under the cable vision and dad's teet.

The Nets are a toy that Proko can use up and discard at any time.

Knicks are 3% of Cablevisions revenue. I can't recall how large a chunk it is of MSG as a seporate entity.

Prokhorov appears to have a management team in place and Im going to guess his attempt to further engrain himself into his country's politics and his business keeps him busy.

If you have good people running things you might have good results down the road. Its very early in the ownership given the level of ambition. The last two years have been for setting up for the move.

At the same time for two years when Dolan had DOnnie running things our record stunk. BUt I got it, there was a plan! Im ok with failure because you don't always succeed.

The list is so long. The whole flurtation with Vin Baker was his doing. The Isiah years. Dolan extending Isiah and tried to bring him back. How he handled the sextual harassment suit against the team. His constant humiliation of so many of his coaches or Gm's. Even still he made Woodson look stupid. It continues. He made walsh look foolish and made Grunny look bad hiding in the closet.

The gag order against the press is demoralizing to his coachs and staff.

Good organizations make good decisions.

I'll take my chances with Prokhorov running MSG than what Dolan has done.

The Hobbit Clown is not a quality person.


So I will go back to my original question, explain why you would want Proko as your Owner without using Dolan as part of the answer. Basically, if you look at Proko by himself as an owner and get rid of all his slick remarks, all you really have is a bad record so far and little else. There're is little evidence so far that Proko will be a good NBA owner.

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8/23/2012  12:55 PM
The record is irrelevant as they were rebuilding.

I don't hold Donnie accountable for the bad record as there was a plan.

I am not asking anyone to be a fan of his. The conversation was about him calling Dolan "that little man".

Perhaps to asnwer the question would be I might prefer just about any owner with very deep pockets and a reasonable buisness track record over what have.

Love the Knicks and hate the owner. Don't like many the decisions he has made and the way he makes them.

So a man of Prokhorovs means looks like a more attractive alternative to the Hobbit.

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8/23/2012  1:05 PM
Nalod wrote:The record is irrelevant as they were rebuilding.

I don't hold Donnie accountable for the bad record as there was a plan.

I am not asking anyone to be a fan of his. The conversation was about him calling Dolan "that little man".

Perhaps to asnwer the question would be I might prefer just about any owner with very deep pockets and a reasonable buisness track record over what have.

Love the Knicks and hate the owner. Don't like many the decisions he has made and the way he makes them.

So a man of Prokhorovs means looks like a more attractive alternative to the Hobbit.

The potential fallacy to this view is that Proko got rid of Thorne.

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8/23/2012  1:38 PM
mrKnickShot wrote:
StraightShot wrote:
Nalod wrote:
StraightShot wrote:Jim's really misunderstood. He got a rocky start, but I've been impressed by his growth and maturation. This year he's finally made some wise business decisions and put together a good team.

We being sarcastic?

He let lin go without compensation. He bumbled the negotiation and took it personal. He embarassed his coach and his GM.

Very impressive?

Put together a good team? Thats Grunwalds job.

Dolan spends money. He did good with eating Billups contract and signing Tyson.

Oh, okay. Now I got it. Grunwald gets the credit for the good decision, but Dolan gets the blame for the bad decisions. Thanks for clarifying.

An owners job is to hire a good GM and let him do his job. When he sticks his nose in where it does not belong and involves himself in trades, FA's, and childish politics due to his little penis syndrome, the teams and its fans suffer.

The Yankees did not turn it around under George until he was banned and was force to allow stick to manage the team without his constant meddling. When he came back, he (mostly) continued to stay out of things.

So to answer your question, yes. Dolan does not get credit for the good moves but does get blame for the bad ones since many of them stem from his little penis syndrome. These good moves are attributed to him not being involved.

That's why I think Dolan has matured. He's done quite well in keeping his emotions out of these business decisions starting with his decision to start hiring guys with known track records like Donni Walsh and Glen Grunwald. I know people say he let emotions determine the Lin decision, but I've seen no evidence of this - just a lot of speculation by hack sportswriters. I think the Lin decision was a business decision not to over-pay, and will turn out to be the right one. It seems like we as fans can't accept that Dolan has actually learned a few things.

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8/23/2012  1:40 PM
foosballnick wrote:
Nalod wrote:The record is irrelevant as they were rebuilding.

I don't hold Donnie accountable for the bad record as there was a plan.

I am not asking anyone to be a fan of his. The conversation was about him calling Dolan "that little man".

Perhaps to asnwer the question would be I might prefer just about any owner with very deep pockets and a reasonable buisness track record over what have.

Love the Knicks and hate the owner. Don't like many the decisions he has made and the way he makes them.

So a man of Prokhorovs means looks like a more attractive alternative to the Hobbit.

The potential fallacy to this view is that Proko got rid of Thorne.

Rod Thorn keeping options open as he leaves Nets 'in very capable hands'
Published: Saturday, July 17, 2010, 7:00 AM
By Dave D'Alessandro/Star-Ledger Columnist The Star-Ledger

Mitsu Yasukawa/ The Star-Ledger'I think Avery’s going to do a really good job coaching,' says outgoing Nets president Rod Thorn, right, with new Nets coach Avery Johnson.
He came to work on his final day wearing blue sweats and a red tennis shirt containing the ubiquitous swoosh, apologizing for his attire because he had just come from shoulder rehab.

Rod Thorn was as casual as his shirt, moving seamlessly and cheerfully from one anecdote to another over 90 minutes, invoking a hundred names and re-telling a hundred memories that he had encountered and kept over his five decades in two leagues.

He laughed often — at times uproariously. His told tales about a life inside the NBA centrifuge, and it didn’t seem to bother him much that he was going to wake up today for the first time in about 45 years with nothing to do, at least in terms of basketball-related tasks.

He and his wife will go for a walk in the nature preserve behind his house in Westchester, Thorn figures. Maybe he’ll swim. And after that, he said, he’s open for anything.

“I’ve had some calls here in the last two or three weeks that have been interesting,” said the former Nets president, 69, who retired from the team Friday.

“But I want to see what kind of options I have, whether it’s to stay in (management) or maybe do something somewhere else. Right now I have some (offers, mostly in broadcasting), and we’ll see if any others come along.”

As untroubled as he is by his own prospects, he is very confident that the team he leaves behind is at the starting gate of what Pat Riley calls the “innocent climb” — that intangible, chemical reaction that triggers a significant move up the standings.

“I think it’s good,” Thorn said of the team’s future under Avery Johnson and Billy King. “I think Avery’s going to do a really good job coaching for them, and I think Billy’s going to do a really good job. And now, you have the wherewithal, if maybe there are some pieces that you need that’ll put you in the luxury tax, you just get them.”

Indeed, having a wealthy owner is what it’s all about in the NBA nowadays. That, Thorn admits, might be something he’ll come to regret, walking away at a time when they have a guy who is willing to pay the price of doing a billionaire’s business.

But what does Mikhail Prokhorov’s group not know about the NBA that might hurt them?

“Mikhail has owned a team in Europe,” Thorn said, referring to CSKA Moscow. “Mikhail was like the Yankees of European ball, in that we’re going to get all the best players. Here, with the salary cap, you have to go about it a little different way, and my advice as I gave it over the last two or three months is, you don’t get in the position the Nets are cap-wise but once about every 10 years. So take advantage of it. But, be prudent.”He has been preaching conservative management for years now. Some thought it was because of Bruce Ratner’s tight purse strings, but the truth is, Thorn was extremely cautious when it came to spending his owner’s money almost every step of the way over the past 10 years.

Only when he had a chance to elevate his team a notch or two or three — the Jason Kidd trade, the Vince Carter trade, their subsequent re-signings, the Alonzo Mourning deal of ’03, the futile free-agent pursuit of 2010 — did Thorn pull the trigger.

Those opportunities didn’t come around often, no matter how proactive an executive might be.

But now he has put King and Johnson in position to take the same kind of giant step, and it doesn’t bother him that he won’t be around to find out what happens next.

Thorn had but one regret in his valediction to a decade in East Rutherford: the awkward termination of Kiki Vandeweghe, which he admitted was an ownership decision.

“As we’re changing owners, owners come in, have certain ideas about how things were and how things weren’t, because they have people talk to them about things,” Thorn said. “I think that, had it been done a little bit differently, I think Kiki might have stayed on as GM.”

Virtually every Nets memory was a fond one, especially as he recalled Kidd (“You just had a special feeling for him”), Carter (“He saved us. He kept us competitive”), and Lawrence Frank (“Always prepared, working himself into exhaustion”).

“It’s been a heck of a tour here these last 10 years,” Thorn said. “It’s always hard to leave some place, particularly some place you put so much into. But I think we’re left in very capable hands, and I think the Nets have some good times ahead of them.”

By now, everyone has pretty much figured out why he’s leaving. There are about a dozen good reasons, none of them that really supercede Peggy Thorn’s desire to take more long walks.

“Sometimes it’s just a feeling that it’s time,” Thorn reiterated. “It’s going to be very interesting with the new ownership here. These guys, certainly on the surface, appear to be terrific. I may have second thoughts later about that part of it.

“But it’s something I’ve been thinking about for a while. I just felt it was time. It was time for me and time for the Nets to move on in a different direction.”

Dave D'Alessandro: ddalessandro@starledger.com

© 2012 NJ.com. All rights reserved.

Most new owners change management. Kiki Vandeweigh was the GM, Thorn president.

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8/23/2012  1:58 PM
Nalod wrote:The record is irrelevant as they were rebuilding.

I don't hold Donnie accountable for the bad record as there was a plan.

I am not asking anyone to be a fan of his. The conversation was about him calling Dolan "that little man".

Perhaps to asnwer the question would be I might prefer just about any owner with very deep pockets and a reasonable buisness track record over what have.

Love the Knicks and hate the owner. Don't like many the decisions he has made and the way he makes them.

So a man of Prokhorovs means looks like a more attractive alternative to the Hobbit.

It's funny that you always seem to have some justification when it comes the Nyets record.

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8/23/2012  2:02 PM    LAST EDITED: 8/23/2012  2:03 PM
Nalod wrote:The record is irrelevant as they were rebuilding.

I don't hold Donnie accountable for the bad record as there was a plan.

I am not asking anyone to be a fan of his. The conversation was about him calling Dolan "that little man".Perhaps to asnwer the question would be I might prefer just about any owner with very deep pockets and a reasonable buisness track record over what have.

Love the Knicks and hate the owner. Don't like many the decisions he has made and the way he makes them.

So a man of Prokhorovs means looks like a more attractive alternative to the Hobbit.

That's the result of a bruised ego and getting the attention of the press possibly to sell more tickets.

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8/23/2012  2:17 PM
StraightShot wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
StraightShot wrote:
Nalod wrote:
StraightShot wrote:Jim's really misunderstood. He got a rocky start, but I've been impressed by his growth and maturation. This year he's finally made some wise business decisions and put together a good team.

We being sarcastic?

He let lin go without compensation. He bumbled the negotiation and took it personal. He embarassed his coach and his GM.

Very impressive?

Put together a good team? Thats Grunwalds job.

Dolan spends money. He did good with eating Billups contract and signing Tyson.

Oh, okay. Now I got it. Grunwald gets the credit for the good decision, but Dolan gets the blame for the bad decisions. Thanks for clarifying.

An owners job is to hire a good GM and let him do his job. When he sticks his nose in where it does not belong and involves himself in trades, FA's, and childish politics due to his little penis syndrome, the teams and its fans suffer.

The Yankees did not turn it around under George until he was banned and was force to allow stick to manage the team without his constant meddling. When he came back, he (mostly) continued to stay out of things.

So to answer your question, yes. Dolan does not get credit for the good moves but does get blame for the bad ones since many of them stem from his little penis syndrome. These good moves are attributed to him not being involved.

That's why I think Dolan has matured. He's done quite well in keeping his emotions out of these business decisions starting with his decision to start hiring guys with known track records like Donni Walsh and Glen Grunwald. I know people say he let emotions determine the Lin decision, but I've seen no evidence of this - just a lot of speculation by hack sportswriters. I think the Lin decision was a business decision not to over-pay, and will turn out to be the right one. It seems like we as fans can't accept that Dolan has actually learned a few things.

We paid eddy how much? Jerome James? 11mm to Anucha plus legal fees? We paid how much to Marbury to not play? The contract of Penny Hardaway?

To over pay Lin is chump change.

I agree the Walsh hiring was good but it was after Stern publically called him out.

Two years ago He tried to hire Isiah while he was still a college coach as a consultant.

He over stepped his GM and flew in to presonally negotiate with Nuggs owners and GM when Walsh was not having it.

There has been no offical statement about Lin despite he was a world wide phenom and the team sold season tickets all the while woodson was saying he'll be back and starting!

Grunny was assistant to Isiah and Walsh. He was a good hire and is a good man. But he has been here all the while.

You think hiding from Lins contract offer to stall time was Grunnys idea?

When has Grunwald made a public statement? Why does he not to get

Its not like Dolan went on a star search. The Chandler siging was based on Buying out BIllups for 14mm.

Go google grunny and see the pictures of him with chandler after his signing. Not found. Why? They are with Dolan!
Dolan wants all the credit?

Thats fine but he gets his blame too. Thats what Nalod is doing, making sure he he is held accountable.

And your telling me Dolan has learned a few things?

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8/23/2012  2:26 PM
infinitilov100 wrote:
Nalod wrote:The record is irrelevant as they were rebuilding.

I don't hold Donnie accountable for the bad record as there was a plan.

I am not asking anyone to be a fan of his. The conversation was about him calling Dolan "that little man".

Perhaps to asnwer the question would be I might prefer just about any owner with very deep pockets and a reasonable buisness track record over what have.

Love the Knicks and hate the owner. Don't like many the decisions he has made and the way he makes them.

So a man of Prokhorovs means looks like a more attractive alternative to the Hobbit.

It's funny that you always seem to have some justification when it comes the Nyets record.

I'm half convinced he's a Nets fan. I mentioned the embarrassing record of their franchise which, he ignores.

the fact that you can't even have an unrelated thread without some tool here bringing him up make me think that rational minds are few and far between. Bunch of emotionally weak, angst riddled people. I mean, how many times can you argue the same shyt
"That little Man"

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