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Erniecat
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8/8/2012  12:54 AM
I'm not too sure what impact, if any, losing Atkinson might have on the Knicks.

But I am sure that some of these offseason threads are truly mind-boggling.

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8/8/2012  12:59 AM
nixluva wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:I try to stay away from the topic. But I disagree with his approach and was very frustrated with how he handled things when he was in NY. If you are going to praise him for grooming a young offensive mind that understood the euro game then I think it's fair to point out that he would not hire the best defensive mind in the game to be his assistant. Also, I enjoy joking about Dan dantoni That quote is real though.

Here's the thing. MDA had success in this league before coming to NY. He didn't come here with a team looking to get better right away, but instead in year 3 of his time here. The one thing we and everyone in the world knew about MDA was that for his system you needed to give him at least a decent PG so that he could run the style he is famous for. So now looking at what they actually gave him to work with it's obvious that they didn't value just how important that was.

WHY bring in a big name coach and then not give him a PG which he needed most in order to make what he does work? You keep blaming MDA for the lack of success here and i'm saying that you can't tie the man's hands behind his back and then kick him in the face by saying he has not been successful.

MDA had Felton for half a season and Lin for less than that. SO we gave MDA what he needed for less than a full season of the nearly 4 yrs he was here. I can guarantee you that he would've been more successful had they given him good PG's to work with for his entire time here. IN fact we saw that if you give him a good PG, shooters and a defensive set of players he can not only have a team that scores but can defend too. Lin, Shump, Novak, Jared and Tyson was a very successful group under MDA.


A couple of things. I really do try to stay away from dantoni as a topic because I have realized that it is easy for me to become absorbed in pointing g out his faults anytime he is mentioned. Also, I thought this thread was about assistant coaches.

Two things about mike, he was hired because he was abig name, and I think his tremendous success in Phoenix was seen as a molding of talented players and that might not be accurate in hindsight. Mike's first yeAr in Phoenix and his year in Denver he lost s tom of games. Once Nash was added inphoenix he won at an incredible rate. Mike had a very talented roster this year and struggled to win other than lin's magical run. Woodson won without Lin. That doesn't necessarily prove anything. From a distance it looks like mike needs a very cerebral point guard that can react to the defense Without that he isn't very succesful. With hit he seems to be able to win with even a marginal roster.

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8/8/2012  1:08 AM
nixluva wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:I try to stay away from the topic. But I disagree with his approach and was very frustrated with how he handled things when he was in NY. If you are going to praise him for grooming a young offensive mind that understood the euro game then I think it's fair to point out that he would not hire the best defensive mind in the game to be his assistant. Also, I enjoy joking about Dan dantoni That quote is real though.

Here's the thing. MDA had success in this league before coming to NY. He didn't come here with a team looking to get better right away, but instead in year 3 of his time here. The one thing we and everyone in the world knew about MDA was that for his system you needed to give him at least a decent PG so that he could run the style he is famous for. So now looking at what they actually gave him to work with it's obvious that they didn't value just how important that was.

WHY bring in a big name coach and then not give him a PG which he needed most in order to make what he does work? You keep blaming MDA for the lack of success here and i'm saying that you can't tie the man's hands behind his back and then kick him in the face by saying he has not been successful.

MDA had Felton for half a season and Lin for less than that. SO we gave MDA what he needed for less than a full season of the nearly 4 yrs he was here. I can guarantee you that he would've been more successful had they given him good PG's to work with for his entire time here. IN fact we saw that if you give him a good PG, shooters and a defensive set of players he can not only have a team that scores but can defend too. Lin, Shump, Novak, Jared and Tyson was a very successful group under MDA.

so did walsh drop the ball or perhaps he hoped dantoni could alter things a bit to work with what he had? what is it about dantoni that bothers you so much when folks bring up his lack of success here that it almost seems like he was just a bystander to it all, not his fault, X reason/excuse to why things didnt work. he did not leave me with many good memories of a job well done here.

is it really shocking folks give the guy a hard time over 3+ years of avg and worse results even considering the context of it all? the same is probably going to apply to anthony if the knicks do not improve quite a bit over the next 2 seasons. this isnt an attack on either. its just how things go with ny teams, historically speaking.

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8/8/2012  10:32 PM
nice guy good man (Kenny)
but good riddance ..another list of ties to MDA

Think NY coulda tried to keep him but if he wanted out whatcha' going to do. I'm sure MDA is in Kenny's ear
Kenny will do fine in Atl.


bye Kenny



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8/8/2012  11:10 PM
good riddance woodson! Wait, that'll happen after next season.
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8/29/2012  12:03 AM
Atkinson was officially hired by the hawks today.
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8/29/2012  10:39 AM
Dolan!!!!!!!
Kenny Atkinson leaving?

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