tj23 wrote:It's all about efficiency for Melo. Yeah we know he's gonna put up about 25 per but can he do it at a high rate and give it up at the right times? If we get the Melo we saw for the last bit of last season for the whole year we can do serious damage.

WE ARE a very old team with more question marks than anything else... I just find it hilarious that fans think this guys scoring leads to Great things happenning... we are not better than miami, or boston and as of last year not better than the pacers.. We are an old Denver nuggets clone.. and what did that team do? NOTHING.... How can anyone be excited about a franchise that places this loser, dummy, moron, no defense playing fat ass as the face of it's franchise is beyond me....

Have we really lowered our standards that much? carmelo is not a leader.. he is volume scorer, a chucker, a ball hog, a ball stopper, a ball hawk on offense.. Nothing more, nothing less..

tkf wrote:

tj23 wrote:It's all about efficiency for Melo. Yeah we know he's gonna put up about 25 per but can he do it at a high rate and give it up at the right times? If we get the Melo we saw for the last bit of last season for the whole year we can do serious damage.

WE ARE a very old team with more question marks than anything else... I just find it hilarious that fans think this guys scoring leads to Great things happenning... we are not better than miami, or boston and as of last year not better than the pacers.. We are an old Denver nuggets clone.. and what did that team do? NOTHING.... How can anyone be excited about a franchise that places this loser, dummy, moron, no defense playing fat ass as the face of it's franchise is beyond me....

Have we really lowered our standards that much? carmelo is not a leader.. he is volume scorer, a chucker, a ball hog, a ball stopper, a ball hawk on offense.. Nothing more, nothing less..

Yeah, nobody's bashing Melo.....

Uptown wrote:

tkf wrote:

tj23 wrote:It's all about efficiency for Melo. Yeah we know he's gonna put up about 25 per but can he do it at a high rate and give it up at the right times? If we get the Melo we saw for the last bit of last season for the whole year we can do serious damage.

WE ARE a very old team with more question marks than anything else... I just find it hilarious that fans think this guys scoring leads to Great things happenning... we are not better than miami, or boston and as of last year not better than the pacers.. We are an old Denver nuggets clone.. and what did that team do? NOTHING.... How can anyone be excited about a franchise that places this loser, dummy, moron, no defense playing fat ass as the face of it's franchise is beyond me....

Have we really lowered our standards that much? carmelo is not a leader.. he is volume scorer, a chucker, a ball hog, a ball stopper, a ball hawk on offense.. Nothing more, nothing less..

Yeah, nobody's bashing Melo.....

What a LOSER!

Get a life so sports doesn't scar you this way.

Uptown wrote:

tkf wrote:

tj23 wrote:It's all about efficiency for Melo. Yeah we know he's gonna put up about 25 per but can he do it at a high rate and give it up at the right times? If we get the Melo we saw for the last bit of last season for the whole year we can do serious damage.

WE ARE a very old team with more question marks than anything else... I just find it hilarious that fans think this guys scoring leads to Great things happenning... we are not better than miami, or boston and as of last year not better than the pacers.. We are an old Denver nuggets clone.. and what did that team do? NOTHING.... How can anyone be excited about a franchise that places this loser, dummy, moron, no defense playing fat ass as the face of it's franchise is beyond me....

Have we really lowered our standards that much? carmelo is not a leader.. he is volume scorer, a chucker, a ball hog, a ball stopper, a ball hawk on offense.. Nothing more, nothing less..

Yeah, nobody's bashing Melo.....

Uptown wrote:

tkf wrote:

tj23 wrote:It's all about efficiency for Melo. Yeah we know he's gonna put up about 25 per but can he do it at a high rate and give it up at the right times? If we get the Melo we saw for the last bit of last season for the whole year we can do serious damage.

WE ARE a very old team with more question marks than anything else... I just find it hilarious that fans think this guys scoring leads to Great things happenning... we are not better than miami, or boston and as of last year not better than the pacers.. We are an old Denver nuggets clone.. and what did that team do? NOTHING.... How can anyone be excited about a franchise that places this loser, dummy, moron, no defense playing fat ass as the face of it's franchise is beyond me....

Have we really lowered our standards that much? carmelo is not a leader.. he is volume scorer, a chucker, a ball hog, a ball stopper, a ball hawk on offense.. Nothing more, nothing less..

Yeah, nobody's bashing Melo.....

to hell with that clown, I will bash him until the day he takes off that knick uniform he is soiling..

tkf wrote:

GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:IKF - you flip flop faster than Al Gore

I didnt flip flop. I have said that i think melo is gonna have a good season for a while now i was just stating that his past playoff record isnt good. BUT I think this is the year he will turn it around.

Does it really make sense to judge an individual player in a team sport by how far their teams get in the playoffs?

When Player X was on Team Y they went to the Finals.
Therefore Player X is a "winner"

Logically it makes no sense. I think there were only a handful of players in NBA history that could carry a mediocre team to the Finals: MJ and Lebron. Can't really include Jason Kidd because the Eastern Conference was ATROCIOUS. Some managed to carry their team in say a 1st round series against mediocre competition: T-Mac (Orlando). Otherwise the argument doesn't hold up when you see:

-Kobe getting bounced in the 1st round. Nash failing to make the playoffs. KG's early career. Kevin Love.

This team should be good enough to get out of the 1st round unless we get the 7th/8th seed and face Miami in round 1. Think we can take Chicago. Maybe I'm delusional.

well then how should we judge carmelo? Ok, lets not use the playoffs, although that should be a big part of it, but lets not use that.. OK, then what should we use? individual awards? he has none.. this guy gets mentioned by many homer fans with the other great players yet he owns nothing.. NO mvp's no defensive awards, no NBA first team, and for a guy who is considered to be such a great scorer, he has NO scoring titles.... what has he done to garner all of this respect.? what!

He's 28 so it means his career is over. We should move on than.

CashMoney wrote:

tkf wrote:

GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:IKF - you flip flop faster than Al Gore

I didnt flip flop. I have said that i think melo is gonna have a good season for a while now i was just stating that his past playoff record isnt good. BUT I think this is the year he will turn it around.

Does it really make sense to judge an individual player in a team sport by how far their teams get in the playoffs?

When Player X was on Team Y they went to the Finals.
Therefore Player X is a "winner"

Logically it makes no sense. I think there were only a handful of players in NBA history that could carry a mediocre team to the Finals: MJ and Lebron. Can't really include Jason Kidd because the Eastern Conference was ATROCIOUS. Some managed to carry their team in say a 1st round series against mediocre competition: T-Mac (Orlando). Otherwise the argument doesn't hold up when you see:

-Kobe getting bounced in the 1st round. Nash failing to make the playoffs. KG's early career. Kevin Love.

This team should be good enough to get out of the 1st round unless we get the 7th/8th seed and face Miami in round 1. Think we can take Chicago. Maybe I'm delusional.

well then how should we judge carmelo? Ok, lets not use the playoffs, although that should be a big part of it, but lets not use that.. OK, then what should we use? individual awards? he has none.. this guy gets mentioned by many homer fans with the other great players yet he owns nothing.. NO mvp's no defensive awards, no NBA first team, and for a guy who is considered to be such a great scorer, he has NO scoring titles.... what has he done to garner all of this respect.? what!

He's 28 so it means his career is over. We should move on than.

he is an old 28.. 9 years in the league already, and he has done nothing.. biggest playoff loser in the history of the sport... he is a bozo... I am putting no faith in this clown and dolan... the only hopes I have is that dolan falls into a coma and another owner comes in and cleans house... stranger things have happened, so I remain hopeful...

IrishKnickFan wrote:

Uptown wrote:

tkf wrote:

tj23 wrote:It's all about efficiency for Melo. Yeah we know he's gonna put up about 25 per but can he do it at a high rate and give it up at the right times? If we get the Melo we saw for the last bit of last season for the whole year we can do serious damage.

WE ARE a very old team with more question marks than anything else... I just find it hilarious that fans think this guys scoring leads to Great things happenning... we are not better than miami, or boston and as of last year not better than the pacers.. We are an old Denver nuggets clone.. and what did that team do? NOTHING.... How can anyone be excited about a franchise that places this loser, dummy, moron, no defense playing fat ass as the face of it's franchise is beyond me....

Have we really lowered our standards that much? carmelo is not a leader.. he is volume scorer, a chucker, a ball hog, a ball stopper, a ball hawk on offense.. Nothing more, nothing less..

Yeah, nobody's bashing Melo.....

There are more important things in life uptown

what are you talking about?! A few posts ago, you said that no-one was bashing Melo. I just pointed out a post that did just that and now you're changing the topic to "There are more important things in life?"

tkf wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

tkf wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

Uptown wrote:

tkf wrote:

tj23 wrote:It's all about efficiency for Melo. Yeah we know he's gonna put up about 25 per but can he do it at a high rate and give it up at the right times? If we get the Melo we saw for the last bit of last season for the whole year we can do serious damage.

WE ARE a very old team with more question marks than anything else... I just find it hilarious that fans think this guys scoring leads to Great things happenning... we are not better than miami, or boston and as of last year not better than the pacers.. We are an old Denver nuggets clone.. and what did that team do? NOTHING.... How can anyone be excited about a franchise that places this loser, dummy, moron, no defense playing fat ass as the face of it's franchise is beyond me....

Have we really lowered our standards that much? carmelo is not a leader.. he is volume scorer, a chucker, a ball hog, a ball stopper, a ball hawk on offense.. Nothing more, nothing less..

Yeah, nobody's bashing Melo.....

What a LOSER!

Get a life so sports doesn't scar you this way.

yea, I am sure you have such a busy life that you have time to post here as much as you do? get off my jock.. how bout that..

Yes. I have a wonderful life with a wonderful wife and children. And, after many years of hard work and extreme dedication, I now have the luxury of sitting back and relaxing on the job without doing much.

How sad!

Peace bro - it will all turn around - life is like a seesaw

sad, my life is great as well, you think your sperm is the only one's that work, You think you are the only one who has a good life..wife and children? LOL I can sit here and bash this clown ass player on the knicks because I have put myself in position to sit here and have the time to do so..

and what does all of this have to do with not like that scumbag carmelo?

pulease....

Your anger displays a very sad nature and for that my friend, I pity you.

mrKnickShot wrote:

tkf wrote:

CashMoney wrote:

tkf wrote:

GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:IKF - you flip flop faster than Al Gore

I didnt flip flop. I have said that i think melo is gonna have a good season for a while now i was just stating that his past playoff record isnt good. BUT I think this is the year he will turn it around.

Does it really make sense to judge an individual player in a team sport by how far their teams get in the playoffs?

When Player X was on Team Y they went to the Finals.
Therefore Player X is a "winner"

Logically it makes no sense. I think there were only a handful of players in NBA history that could carry a mediocre team to the Finals: MJ and Lebron. Can't really include Jason Kidd because the Eastern Conference was ATROCIOUS. Some managed to carry their team in say a 1st round series against mediocre competition: T-Mac (Orlando). Otherwise the argument doesn't hold up when you see:

-Kobe getting bounced in the 1st round. Nash failing to make the playoffs. KG's early career. Kevin Love.

This team should be good enough to get out of the 1st round unless we get the 7th/8th seed and face Miami in round 1. Think we can take Chicago. Maybe I'm delusional.

well then how should we judge carmelo? Ok, lets not use the playoffs, although that should be a big part of it, but lets not use that.. OK, then what should we use? individual awards? he has none.. this guy gets mentioned by many homer fans with the other great players yet he owns nothing.. NO mvp's no defensive awards, no NBA first team, and for a guy who is considered to be such a great scorer, he has NO scoring titles.... what has he done to garner all of this respect.? what!

He's 28 so it means his career is over. We should move on than.

he is an old 28.. years in the league already, and he has done nothing.. biggest playoff loser in the history of the sport... he is a bozo... I am putting no faith in this clown and dolan... the only hopes I have is that dolan falls into a coma and another owner comes in and cleans house... stranger things have happened, so I remain hopeful...

Wishing a coma on someone over sports? You are one sick puppy.

You should get off your ass with that serial killer mentality and kill the fukka!!

He deserves it - he's evil! He messed up your sports team.

not really over sports.. but because dolan is a horrible douchebag that thinks it is ok to demean people and women.. How is that?

tkf wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:

Uptown wrote:

tkf wrote:

tj23 wrote:It's all about efficiency for Melo. Yeah we know he's gonna put up about 25 per but can he do it at a high rate and give it up at the right times? If we get the Melo we saw for the last bit of last season for the whole year we can do serious damage.

WE ARE a very old team with more question marks than anything else... I just find it hilarious that fans think this guys scoring leads to Great things happenning... we are not better than miami, or boston and as of last year not better than the pacers.. We are an old Denver nuggets clone.. and what did that team do? NOTHING.... How can anyone be excited about a franchise that places this loser, dummy, moron, no defense playing fat ass as the face of it's franchise is beyond me....

Have we really lowered our standards that much? carmelo is not a leader.. he is volume scorer, a chucker, a ball hog, a ball stopper, a ball hawk on offense.. Nothing more, nothing less..

Yeah, nobody's bashing Melo.....

There are more important things in life uptown

yea, like renewing his subscription to the carmelo fan club... go figure...

I'm a Knick fan who roots for the blue and orange. Melo represents the blue and orange so I root for him to help my team win. Dude, the name-calling and emotional rants are a bit juevnile. Your rants against him seem very personal and I cant recall a fan hating a player on the team he roots for as much as you do. There have been players on this team over the years that I didn't particularly care for because they weren't very good (Charlie Ward) but cant recall ever having so much angst for any Knick players.