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7/17/2012  6:36 PM
gunsnewing wrote:Im glad lin didnt waste his time playing against the heat after being out for weeks after knee surgery. Im happy he put himself in position to get the best possible deal for himself. His first major deal. No different then Melo forcing a trade to ny to get the max contract with the uncertainty of the cba. At least lin secured his 25mil. I mean its not 100mil like amare & melo but he should be set financially

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So I guess you are going to be a Rockets Fan. Good Luck

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7/17/2012  6:44 PM
JamesKPolk wrote:
DJMUSIC wrote:
JamesKPolk wrote:
DJMUSIC wrote:
JamesKPolk wrote:Let's get a few things straight first....

Stephen A Smith is one of the douchiest individuals on this planet and also a huge moron. Just because he yells a lot doesn't make him right. His "reporting" is usually driven by a personal or racist agenda and not by actual facts. He also is a very good friend with Isiah Thomas and has backed him returning to the Knicks.

Stephen A is probably a racist (hates Lin, hated Walsh, praised Isiah) or an ultra Isiah fan, yells and never makes any points whatsoever in his stupid rants and generally writes baseless garbage based on no facts in order to get noticed. He is even worse than Isola in this regard. He is negative for things that aren't deserving of negativity and positive for things that aren't deserving of anything positive, i.e Isiah's career in NY. It's best to ignore him than let him influence your opinion on anything.

The best way to counter an idiot like Stephen A is provide facts such as this:

http://knicks.lohudblogs.com/2012/07/16/mr-smith-goes-to-crazytown/

Great read and owns Stephen A and his awful article.

not nice to call folks a racist with black folks here on the Forum board
sensitive subject ya know

But apparently it's okay to believe stupid conspiracies about how Lin purposely screwed the Knicks.

Stupid Conspiracy ? what are you talking bout Son
I dont know if Lin purposely did anything, No one said intent was in decision

Screw the knicks
yep he did, Cannot blame this entirely 150% on MSG organization

What does conspiracy comeback chats has to do with personal remarks such as idiot & racist?

Because he is one? You don't know his history at all so who are you to say what I'm saying is false? Just because you believe everything this loudmouth says as gospel?

I blame everything on Dolan because his track record proves he is a complete idiot. I'm not going to listen to what a few ill-informed idiots on the radio have to say about Jeremy Lin. Stephen A has had an agenda forever. This is why he gets fired and hired every year.

Papabear Says

If you feel this way find another team to cheer for. Like Houston. You don't like Dolan then just root for another team.

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7/17/2012  6:48 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/17/2012  6:48 PM
Papabear wrote:
JamesKPolk wrote:
DJMUSIC wrote:
JamesKPolk wrote:
DJMUSIC wrote:
JamesKPolk wrote:Let's get a few things straight first....

Stephen A Smith is one of the douchiest individuals on this planet and also a huge moron. Just because he yells a lot doesn't make him right. His "reporting" is usually driven by a personal or racist agenda and not by actual facts. He also is a very good friend with Isiah Thomas and has backed him returning to the Knicks.

Stephen A is probably a racist (hates Lin, hated Walsh, praised Isiah) or an ultra Isiah fan, yells and never makes any points whatsoever in his stupid rants and generally writes baseless garbage based on no facts in order to get noticed. He is even worse than Isola in this regard. He is negative for things that aren't deserving of negativity and positive for things that aren't deserving of anything positive, i.e Isiah's career in NY. It's best to ignore him than let him influence your opinion on anything.

The best way to counter an idiot like Stephen A is provide facts such as this:

http://knicks.lohudblogs.com/2012/07/16/mr-smith-goes-to-crazytown/

Great read and owns Stephen A and his awful article.

not nice to call folks a racist with black folks here on the Forum board
sensitive subject ya know

But apparently it's okay to believe stupid conspiracies about how Lin purposely screwed the Knicks.

Stupid Conspiracy ? what are you talking bout Son
I dont know if Lin purposely did anything, No one said intent was in decision

Screw the knicks
yep he did, Cannot blame this entirely 150% on MSG organization

What does conspiracy comeback chats has to do with personal remarks such as idiot & racist?

Because he is one? You don't know his history at all so who are you to say what I'm saying is false? Just because you believe everything this loudmouth says as gospel?

I blame everything on Dolan because his track record proves he is a complete idiot. I'm not going to listen to what a few ill-informed idiots on the radio have to say about Jeremy Lin. Stephen A has had an agenda forever. This is why he gets fired and hired every year.

Papabear Says

If you feel this way find another team to cheer for. Like Houston. You don't like Dolan then just root for another team.

BasketballJones says,

Papabear,

I think gunsnewing has said he would be less interested, but still a Knick fan. As for JamesKPolk, I sincerely hope he does switch to the rockets and inflict himself on some other team's forum.

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7/17/2012  6:52 PM
Papabear wrote:
JamesKPolk wrote:
DJMUSIC wrote:
JamesKPolk wrote:
DJMUSIC wrote:
JamesKPolk wrote:Let's get a few things straight first....

Stephen A Smith is one of the douchiest individuals on this planet and also a huge moron. Just because he yells a lot doesn't make him right. His "reporting" is usually driven by a personal or racist agenda and not by actual facts. He also is a very good friend with Isiah Thomas and has backed him returning to the Knicks.

Stephen A is probably a racist (hates Lin, hated Walsh, praised Isiah) or an ultra Isiah fan, yells and never makes any points whatsoever in his stupid rants and generally writes baseless garbage based on no facts in order to get noticed. He is even worse than Isola in this regard. He is negative for things that aren't deserving of negativity and positive for things that aren't deserving of anything positive, i.e Isiah's career in NY. It's best to ignore him than let him influence your opinion on anything.

The best way to counter an idiot like Stephen A is provide facts such as this:

http://knicks.lohudblogs.com/2012/07/16/mr-smith-goes-to-crazytown/

Great read and owns Stephen A and his awful article.

not nice to call folks a racist with black folks here on the Forum board
sensitive subject ya know

But apparently it's okay to believe stupid conspiracies about how Lin purposely screwed the Knicks.

Stupid Conspiracy ? what are you talking bout Son
I dont know if Lin purposely did anything, No one said intent was in decision

Screw the knicks
yep he did, Cannot blame this entirely 150% on MSG organization

What does conspiracy comeback chats has to do with personal remarks such as idiot & racist?

Because he is one? You don't know his history at all so who are you to say what I'm saying is false? Just because you believe everything this loudmouth says as gospel?

I blame everything on Dolan because his track record proves he is a complete idiot. I'm not going to listen to what a few ill-informed idiots on the radio have to say about Jeremy Lin. Stephen A has had an agenda forever. This is why he gets fired and hired every year.

Papabear Says

If you feel this way find another team to cheer for. Like Houston. You don't like Dolan then just root for another team.

Great reasoning there. If you don't like the awful owner that has destroyed the team you love, root for another team.

You win.

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7/17/2012  6:53 PM
ChuckBuck wrote:
Knicksfan wrote:
DJMUSIC wrote:
Uptown wrote:
joec32033 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:not trying to rag on lin, but steven a. smith said pretty much the same exact things on sportscenter today - especially about the buying into success thing.

take it however you want.

Smith also said the other day that he spoke to Lin's teammates after Lin was cleared to play and after he said that he wasn't ready (at 85 percent) some of them asked if he could play just 15 minutes a game and he still said no. If Lin said no to that option as well, it becomes a little clearer as to why Lin might not be so popular in the locker room.

Something major I forgot. As per SAS, Lin was cleared by the Knicks to play in the playoffs but he chose not to. Said players had to understand from a business standpoint, but from a locker room/competitive standpoint, he lost some guys.

SAS also said he isn't hated or anything, as he is a very likeable kid, but he isn't beloved by a long shot either.

Funny how this is constantly swept under the rug. Seriously, if Melo was cleared to play and said "no" during the playoffs, he wold have been rgged on relentlessly by Knick fans...Why is Lin getting a pass for this by most supporters?

*Excellent point Uptown
agreed 125%, Lin was 85%

Some think if it wasnt vs Miami Lin woulda played ..or against another playoff opponent. Many nba guys play at less < 85%
just a short note/plug there

Someone got to his ear and said NO play

People, you don't have to go that far to get an example of a guy playing at less than 85% in the playoffs...

BARON FREAKING DAVIS!!!!!

The guy wasn't the sensation that Lin was, but the guy played his heart and soul everytime he wore that orange and blue uniform. Care to guess what percentage he was in terms of health? The guy was practically keeping his body together with tape! And Bibby! Old guy Bibby!

When you remember them and how shorthanded we were and you see this report... If it has any truth in it, then Lin isnt even close to deserving the rockstar and savior undying love most here seem to profess.

Exactly, and still people are defending a selfish prick douche of this magnitude. Tyson playing at like 110 degree fever, Amare playing with one hand...just inexcusable to not suit up.

Selfish prick douche...lmao.

It's just sad at this point. When did doctors ever clear Lin? When was Davis 85% in the playoffs? Where are these myths coming? The levels that people will go to destroy the name and reputation of a player just because he's no longer a Knick is embarrassing.

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7/17/2012  6:55 PM
BasketballJones wrote:
Papabear wrote:
JamesKPolk wrote:
DJMUSIC wrote:
JamesKPolk wrote:
DJMUSIC wrote:
JamesKPolk wrote:Let's get a few things straight first....

Stephen A Smith is one of the douchiest individuals on this planet and also a huge moron. Just because he yells a lot doesn't make him right. His "reporting" is usually driven by a personal or racist agenda and not by actual facts. He also is a very good friend with Isiah Thomas and has backed him returning to the Knicks.

Stephen A is probably a racist (hates Lin, hated Walsh, praised Isiah) or an ultra Isiah fan, yells and never makes any points whatsoever in his stupid rants and generally writes baseless garbage based on no facts in order to get noticed. He is even worse than Isola in this regard. He is negative for things that aren't deserving of negativity and positive for things that aren't deserving of anything positive, i.e Isiah's career in NY. It's best to ignore him than let him influence your opinion on anything.

The best way to counter an idiot like Stephen A is provide facts such as this:

http://knicks.lohudblogs.com/2012/07/16/mr-smith-goes-to-crazytown/

Great read and owns Stephen A and his awful article.

not nice to call folks a racist with black folks here on the Forum board
sensitive subject ya know

But apparently it's okay to believe stupid conspiracies about how Lin purposely screwed the Knicks.

Stupid Conspiracy ? what are you talking bout Son
I dont know if Lin purposely did anything, No one said intent was in decision

Screw the knicks
yep he did, Cannot blame this entirely 150% on MSG organization

What does conspiracy comeback chats has to do with personal remarks such as idiot & racist?

Because he is one? You don't know his history at all so who are you to say what I'm saying is false? Just because you believe everything this loudmouth says as gospel?

I blame everything on Dolan because his track record proves he is a complete idiot. I'm not going to listen to what a few ill-informed idiots on the radio have to say about Jeremy Lin. Stephen A has had an agenda forever. This is why he gets fired and hired every year.

Papabear Says

If you feel this way find another team to cheer for. Like Houston. You don't like Dolan then just root for another team.

BasketballJones says,

Papabear,

I think gunsnewing has said he would be less interested, but still a Knick fan. As for JamesKPolk, I sincerely hope he does switch to the rockets and inflict himself on some other team's forum.

Signed,
BasketballJones


Papabear Says

I'm sick and tired of this crap. No way will Melo allow for Lin to wave him off and same for Amare. It will be hell in that locker room. Lin knows he won't be scoring 20 points on the Knicks team. More like 12 and 8

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7/17/2012  6:57 PM
mrKnickShot wrote:
holfresh wrote:When all this stuff gets out that a rookie hired a publicist, trademarked Linsanity, Jack up the price to create a ridiculous contract, I don't know of a bigger bulleye's in the NBA..Move over the Miami Heat, I present the new target, Jeremy Lin...Guys will be coming at him nightly, wish him luck..

I can't wait to put Shump on him in a game.

DO I HEAR 13 turnovers leading to 24 points?

SWEET!

Watching Shump play regardless is just fun :) But that scenario, if it every comes to fruition, will be sweet :)
I'll support Lin wherever he plays BUT not when it's against us. :D
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7/17/2012  7:01 PM
The media spin is going to be crazy now that Lin is no longer going to play for the Knicks. It's already been in effect the last few days once the Felton deal was announced. I'm sure the kid isn't an angel, but the last few days the NY media has done a heck of a job of demonizing the kid and making him look like some backstabbing ego-maniac. I find that very hard to believe.
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7/17/2012  7:02 PM
munco wrote:The media spin is going to be crazy now that Lin is no longer going to play for the Knicks. It's already been in effect the last few days once the Felton deal was announced. I'm sure the kid isn't an angel, but the last few days the NY media has done a heck of a job of demonizing the kid and making him look like some backstabbing ego-maniac. I find that very hard to believe.

Not every had demonized him. Just the usual culprits like Stephen A, Isola and Berman.

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7/17/2012  7:07 PM
fishmike wrote:
joec32033 wrote:I was listening to Chris Russo on Sirius on my way home and he had some not so flattering things to say about Lin...I was cut short on my Ride but this is what I heard...

Lin went back and renegotiated-as in there the 5/5/9 contract was the ORIGINAL- contract at the Rockets request without telling Knicks
Knicks feel Lin showing no loyalty to a franchise that showed loyalty to him
Knicks unhappy Lin hired a publicist (I assume MSG provides players with those and Lin hired a private one)
If this current offer sheet was the first one presented and there was no renegotiation, the Knicks would have matched it already no problems
Matching contract is not about the money

In regards to off court:

Lin is amazingly hard to get a hold of media wise
Lin has blown off media several times, especially when he was injured, angering "crusty" old time reporters
Russo stated his opinion is Lin is buying into his own success and has definitely let it go to his head


All GREAT reasons for not bringing back your best prospect and starting pg. dumbest franchise in sports

Probably the first sensible post on this thread. The trolls are out in numbers "celebrating"- doh!

TKF on Melo ::....he is a punk, a jerk, a self absorbed out of shape, self aggrandizing, unprofessional, volume chucking coach killing playoff loser!!
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7/17/2012  7:09 PM
loweyecue wrote:
fishmike wrote:
joec32033 wrote:I was listening to Chris Russo on Sirius on my way home and he had some not so flattering things to say about Lin...I was cut short on my Ride but this is what I heard...

Lin went back and renegotiated-as in there the 5/5/9 contract was the ORIGINAL- contract at the Rockets request without telling Knicks
Knicks feel Lin showing no loyalty to a franchise that showed loyalty to him
Knicks unhappy Lin hired a publicist (I assume MSG provides players with those and Lin hired a private one)
If this current offer sheet was the first one presented and there was no renegotiation, the Knicks would have matched it already no problems
Matching contract is not about the money

In regards to off court:

Lin is amazingly hard to get a hold of media wise
Lin has blown off media several times, especially when he was injured, angering "crusty" old time reporters
Russo stated his opinion is Lin is buying into his own success and has definitely let it go to his head


All GREAT reasons for not bringing back your best prospect and starting pg. dumbest franchise in sports

Probably the first sensible post on this thread. The trolls are out in numbers "celebrating"- doh!

You know the sad part? This is the only Knicks forum that has reacted this way. The ones who have even more traffic than this one has a mostly negative reaction to the news. But here you're considered a crazy idiot loser Lin fan/Rocket fan/Net fan/troll if you argue for keeping Jeremy "Ungrateful Backstabber" Lin.

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Papabear wrote:
JamesKPolk wrote:
DJMUSIC wrote:
JamesKPolk wrote:
DJMUSIC wrote:
JamesKPolk wrote:Let's get a few things straight first....

Stephen A Smith is one of the douchiest individuals on this planet and also a huge moron. Just because he yells a lot doesn't make him right. His "reporting" is usually driven by a personal or racist agenda and not by actual facts. He also is a very good friend with Isiah Thomas and has backed him returning to the Knicks.

Stephen A is probably a racist (hates Lin, hated Walsh, praised Isiah) or an ultra Isiah fan, yells and never makes any points whatsoever in his stupid rants and generally writes baseless garbage based on no facts in order to get noticed. He is even worse than Isola in this regard. He is negative for things that aren't deserving of negativity and positive for things that aren't deserving of anything positive, i.e Isiah's career in NY. It's best to ignore him than let him influence your opinion on anything.

The best way to counter an idiot like Stephen A is provide facts such as this:

http://knicks.lohudblogs.com/2012/07/16/mr-smith-goes-to-crazytown/

Great read and owns Stephen A and his awful article.

not nice to call folks a racist with black folks here on the Forum board
sensitive subject ya know

But apparently it's okay to believe stupid conspiracies about how Lin purposely screwed the Knicks.

Stupid Conspiracy ? what are you talking bout Son
I dont know if Lin purposely did anything, No one said intent was in decision

Screw the knicks
yep he did, Cannot blame this entirely 150% on MSG organization

What does conspiracy comeback chats has to do with personal remarks such as idiot & racist?

Because he is one? You don't know his history at all so who are you to say what I'm saying is false? Just because you believe everything this loudmouth says as gospel?

I blame everything on Dolan because his track record proves he is a complete idiot. I'm not going to listen to what a few ill-informed idiots on the radio have to say about Jeremy Lin. Stephen A has had an agenda forever. This is why he gets fired and hired every year.

Papabear Says

If you feel this way find another team to cheer for. Like Houston. You don't like Dolan then just root for another team.

Did you really just say that?

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7/17/2012  7:16 PM
joec32033 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:not trying to rag on lin, but steven a. smith said pretty much the same exact things on sportscenter today - especially about the buying into success thing.

take it however you want.

Smith also said the other day that he spoke to Lin's teammates after Lin was cleared to play and after he said that he wasn't ready (at 85 percent) some of them asked if he could play just 15 minutes a game and he still said no. If Lin said no to that option as well, it becomes a little clearer as to why Lin might not be so popular in the locker room.

Something major I forgot. As per SAS, Lin was cleared by the Knicks to play in the playoffs but he chose not to. Said players had to understand from a business standpoint, but from a locker room/competitive standpoint, he lost some guys.

SAS also said he isn't hated or anything, as he is a very likeable kid, but he isn't beloved by a long shot either.

Lin couldnt play hurt hell Amare was out there with a cast on his hand

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JamesKPolk wrote:Go ahead and call me out. You don't like what I write? Tough. I don't like the garbage I'm reading in here either. To put Stephen A on a pedestal is disgusting. It's more disgusting when you know what the man is really about. The guy is a grade-A douche who gets fired every year from his job because of backstage feuds. Having met him and spoken to him countless times (he is my friend's brother's godfather) and spoken to those close to him, the agenda is clear. He will support black players over any other race, no matter the talent or whatnot. That's a fact, Jack. Ban me if you like. That's the 100% truth.

I think Polk is kind of a troll from his posts but he is certainly right about Smith being a douche. Im not saying he is a racist because thats harsh without proof but I dont respect his journalism at all

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Jmpasq wrote:
JamesKPolk wrote:Go ahead and call me out. You don't like what I write? Tough. I don't like the garbage I'm reading in here either. To put Stephen A on a pedestal is disgusting. It's more disgusting when you know what the man is really about. The guy is a grade-A douche who gets fired every year from his job because of backstage feuds. Having met him and spoken to him countless times (he is my friend's brother's godfather) and spoken to those close to him, the agenda is clear. He will support black players over any other race, no matter the talent or whatnot. That's a fact, Jack. Ban me if you like. That's the 100% truth.

I think Polk is kind of a troll from his posts but he is certainly right about Smith being a douche. Im not saying he is a racist because thats harsh without proof but I dont respect his journalism at all

He is not a journalist, he is an entertainer and many DO find him entertaining. Barkley is no different. Shock jocks.
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JamesKPolk wrote:Go ahead and call me out. You don't like what I write? Tough. I don't like the garbage I'm reading in here either. To put Stephen A on a pedestal is disgusting. It's more disgusting when you know what the man is really about. The guy is a grade-A douche who gets fired every year from his job because of backstage feuds. Having met him and spoken to him countless times (he is my friend's brother's godfather) and spoken to those close to him, the agenda is clear. He will support black players over any other race, no matter the talent or whatnot. That's a fact, Jack. Ban me if you like. That's the 100% truth.

I think Polk is kind of a troll from his posts but he is certainly right about Smith being a douche. Im not saying he is a racist because thats harsh without proof but I dont respect his journalism at all

YOU think someone else is a TROLL? HA HA HA HA

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loweyecue wrote:
Jmpasq wrote:
JamesKPolk wrote:Go ahead and call me out. You don't like what I write? Tough. I don't like the garbage I'm reading in here either. To put Stephen A on a pedestal is disgusting. It's more disgusting when you know what the man is really about. The guy is a grade-A douche who gets fired every year from his job because of backstage feuds. Having met him and spoken to him countless times (he is my friend's brother's godfather) and spoken to those close to him, the agenda is clear. He will support black players over any other race, no matter the talent or whatnot. That's a fact, Jack. Ban me if you like. That's the 100% truth.

I think Polk is kind of a troll from his posts but he is certainly right about Smith being a douche. Im not saying he is a racist because thats harsh without proof but I dont respect his journalism at all

YOU think someone else is a TROLL? HA HA HA HA

Im a troll why because Im Knick fan not a Lin fan boy. My biggest problem on here has been the hypocrisy of bashing Melo when Lin is cut from the same exact cloth.Lin lovers have acted like the guy isnt at fault for any of this. Id love for Lin to stay but im not crazy and going to say im not a Knick fan anymore like some of u. I dont think he is an irreplaceable player with this coach and this roster. I think with how this team is constructed he will be marginalized. He is much better off in Houston for his game. He will put up better numbers in Houston and the Lin lovers will have something to point out for the next few years. I mean pointing to how great Galo is has to be getting worn out. Having Lin on a bad team putting up 20 and 8 will give u guys constant threads to post when the Knicks have a 3 game losing streak in january

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7/18/2012  12:51 AM
BasketballJones wrote:Nah. This is not possible. Surely it is that evil Melo guy who did all these bad things, and not our beloved little angel Lin.

angelin

If you are still following the team and reading sites like this, there is nothing, short of your own demise, that is going to throw you off this train.
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